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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Elen Death: Before 24 Oct 1253
  2. Margaret Of Wales Death: After 1268
  3. Angharad
  4. Susanna
  5. Dafydd Ap Llwelyn Fawy, Prince Of Wales Birth: Abt 1208 Death: 25 Feb 1246 in Aber
  6. (Unk Dau) Birth: 1234

Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
before 1200 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]
in or before 1189 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]
not much after 1192, but before 1200 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80]
well before 1200 [Ref: Weis AR7 #29A],
parents:
[Ref: ES III.2 #356B, Paget HRHCharles p16],
father:
[Ref: CMH p608, CP I p22, Hoff LLOYD p142, Jacobs Clemencia p176, Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390, Roberts RD600 p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600 p411, Roberts RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413, Sheppard Joan p29, Sheppard RoyalByeBlowsI p98, Watney WALLOP #613, Weis AR7 #176, Weis AR7 #27, Weis AR7 #29A, Weis MC #114],
mother:
[Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
mother:
Clemence [Ref: Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, William Reitwiesner SGM 11/7/2001-224738]
Clemence, possibly Clemence le BOTILLER (#14628) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52(26), Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390, Roberts RD600 p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600 p411, Roberts RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413]
Constance Duchess of Brittany (#11529) [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142, Jacobs Clemencia p176]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: ES III.2 #356, Paget HRHCharles p16, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
1236/7 [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142]
1237 [Ref: CMH p608]
30 Mar 1236 or Feb 1237 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80, Weis AR7 #29A]
Feb 1237 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #613]
either 30 Msay 1236 or Feb 1237 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p30],
place:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Paget HRHCharles p16, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
Sources with Information about marriage to Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
date:
1204 [Ref: ES III.2 #356, Paget HRHCharles p16]
1205 [Ref: Weis AR7 #176]
1205/6 [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142]
1206 [Ref: Weis AR7 #29A]
before 23 Mar 1204/5 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]
betrothed 15 Oct 1204, married 1205 or 1206 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]
betrothed before 15 Oct 1204 Married Ascenciontide 1206 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80]
second marriage of Llewellyn [Ref: CP I p22],
names:
[Ref: CMH p608, Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p53, Sheppard RoyalByeBlowsI p98, Weis AR7 #27, Weis MC #41, William Reitwiesner SGM 11/7/2001-224738],
child:
[Ref: Don Stone SGM 9/15/1997-025622, Douglas Richardson SGM 12/3/2000, Hoff LLOYD p142, MacEwen Elen, Reitwiesner Joan p82, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390, Roberts RD600 p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600 p411, Roberts RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413, Sheppard Joan p30, Watney WALLOP #613, Weis AR7 #236, Weis AR7 #246, Weis AR7 #254, Weis AR7 #29A, Weis MC #114]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Gladys DHU (#10265) [Ref: CP I p22, CP IX p276, Paget HRHCharles p476, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p164, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Sanders Baronies p98(7), Watney WALLOP #613]
Helen (#13699) wife of Malcoln Earl of Fife and Donald Earl of Mar [Ref: CP I p306, CP V p373, CP VIII p403 (with corr in XIV p464), Reitwiesner Joan p84, Reitwiesner Joan p86, SP I p427, SP IV p9, SP V p578, Watney WALLOP #31, Watney WALLOP #651, Weis AR7 #252, Weis MC #41]
Research Notes:
maritagium included the castles (or manors) of Ellesmere, Knighton, and Norton, Shropshire, as well as the manors of Bidford, Warwickshire, and Suckley, Worcestershire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]

The Tewkesbury Annals, when they report Joan's death, report it as follows:
Obiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini, filia regis Johannis et reginae Clemenciae, iii kal. Aprilis.
See *Rerum Britannicarum medii aevi scriptores*, volume 36 [London, 1864], p. 101. So for most people the question is "who was this Queen Clemencia"? Some have guessed that Joan was a child of John by his first wife Isabel of Gloucester, others that Clemencia was John's sister-in-law Constance of Brittany. Others say that Clemencia, no "Queen", was lowborn. Still others say that the Annals were completely wrong and that Joan was John's daughter by Agatha de Ferrieres, daughter of the 3rd Earl of Derby by Sibyl de Braiose. Those are the major theories, but no consensus has been reached. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 2/8/1996]

daughter of "Queen Clemencia" according to Tewkesbury Annals, written about 1236. Some: John's first queen, Isabel of Gloucester. Another: Agatha daughter of Robert Lord Ferrers Earl of Derby [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]

Joan was legitimated by rescript of Pope Honorius III dated 29 April 1226. See *Regesta Honorii Papae III*, volume III, part 2 [Roma, 1895], pp. 417-418, #5906. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 2/8/1996]

There's one and only one place where her mother is named, and that's in the Tewkesbury annals. It's been published, and you can see the entry yourself. You may have to go to one of the larger research libraries, but it's in the *Rerum Britannicarum Medii Aevi Scriptores* series, vol. 36 (1864), and it's called "Annales de Theokesberia." Look on page 101, and you'll see this entry:
Ibiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini, filia regis Johannis et reginae Clemenciae iii. kal. Aprilis.
Translated into English it reads "Died Lady Joan lady of Wales, wife of Llywelyn, daughter of King John and Queen Clemencia, 30 March."
So how do we interpret this entry? It's obviously wrong in what it actually says, because there never was a Queen Clemencia in England. Some have said that "Reginae" is the part that's wrong, and that Joan's mother was a woman named Clemencia. Some of these say that Clemencia was a woman of low birth, others try to find a Baron's wife or daughter living at about the right time named Clemencia (so far I've seen five different candidates put forward). Others say that it's the "Clemenciae" part that's wrong (or it's a description, "the kind queen"), and that Joan was a legitimate daughter of John by his first wife Isabel, and was illegitimated when John divorced Isabel. Or that Joan's mother was John's sister-in-law Constance. Another group sayd that both "reginae" and "Clemenciae" are wrong and that "reginae Clemenciae" means Agatha Ferrers, daughter of the Earl of Derby. Quite a lot of disagreement over what two little words mean, but on the other hand those two little words are *all* we have to go on. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 9/5/1996]

The identity of Clemence, mother of Joan, is presently unknown. She is perhaps the same person as Clemence le Boteler, wife of Nicholas de Verdun (died 1231) of Brandon (in Wolston), Warwickshire, Alson, Staffordshire, etc. In 1228 Nicholas and his wife Clemence were granted custody of the king's niece, Susanna, daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of North Wales, and his wife, Joan. If Clemence was Susanna's grandmother, it would explain her inclusion in the grant of Susanna's custody. Regardless, stronger evidence is needed before any firm conclusion can be drawn about a possible relationship between these families. [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52(26)]

1226: legitimated by a rescript of Pope Honorius III [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]



Pedigree of Joan
                                                                /-----Fulk Count Of Perche
                                                       /-----Hugo Of Perch
                                                      |         \-----Melisende
                                              /-----Geoffrey Ferreol Count Of The Gatinais
                                             |        |         /-----Aubri Count Of Macon
                                             |         \-----Beatrix Of Macon
                                             |                  \-----(Unk)
                                     /-----Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |                  /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |        |         \-----Adele Of Troyes
                                    |         \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
                                    |                  \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
                            /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
                           |        |                           /-----William Count Of Hainault
                           |        |                  /-----Amauri III De MONTFORT
                           |        |                 |         \-----(Unk) Heiress Of Montfort And Epernon
                           |        |         /-----Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Guilaume De Gommetz
                           |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De GOMMETZ
                           |        |        |                  \-----Alberade
                           |         \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
                           |                 |                  /-----Robert Count Of Evereux, Archbishop Of Rouen
                           |                 |         /-----Richard Count Of Evereux
                           |                 |        |         \-----Herleva
                           |                  \-----Agnes Of Evereux
                           |                           \-----Godehildie
                   /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
                  |        |                                    /-----Landry Sire de Baugency
                  |        |                           /-----Lancellin I Sire De Baugency In Orleanais
                  |        |                  /-----John De BAUGENCY, Seigneur De La Fleche
                  |        |         /-----Helias Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Hugh III Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Herbert Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |         \-----Paula Of Maine
                  |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
                  |                 |                           /-----Hamon Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                  /-----Robert Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Hildeburgis
                  |                 |         /-----Gervase Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |        |         \-----Elizabeth
                  |                  \-----Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                           \-----Aremburge
                  |                                    \-----Mathilde
          /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |        |                                             /-----Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                    /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                   |         \-----Gunnora
         |        |                           /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Conan I Duke Of Brittany
         |        |                          |         \-----Judith Of Brittany
         |        |                          |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
         |        |                  /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
         |        |                 |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
         |        |                 |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
         |        |                 |                  \-----Duxia
         |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Baldwin IV The Bearded Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Rosela Of Italy
         |        |        |        |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Frederick I Count Of Luxemburg
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Ogive Of Luxembourg
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Kinziggau
         |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
         |        |        |                 |                  /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
         |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
         |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
         |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of France
         |        |        |                          |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
         |        |        |                           \-----Constance Of Provence
         |        |        |                                    \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
         |         \-----Matilda
         |                 |                                    /-----Duncan Lord Of Mormaer Of Athol
         |                 |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
         |                 |                  /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Mael Coluim (Malcolm II) Mac CINAED, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |         \-----Bethoc
         |                 |         /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Beorn
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Ealdred Of Bernicia
         |                 |        |                  \-----Aelflaed
         |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
         |                          |                           /-----Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
         |                          |                  /-----Edmund Ironside King Of England
         |                          |                 |         \-----Alfflaed
         |                          |         /-----Edward Athling The Exile
         |                          |        |        |         /-----Morcar High Reeve In Northumbria
         |                          |        |         \-----Ealgyth
         |                          |        |                  \-----Eadgyth
         |                           \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
         |                                   |                  /-----Saint Vladimir Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |        |         \-----Rogneide Of Polotzk
         |                                    \-----Agatha
         |                                            |         /-----Olaf III SKOTKONUNG, King Of Sweden
         |                                             \-----Ingegard
         |                                                      \-----Astrid
 /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|        |                                                      /-----William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                             /-----William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                            |         \-----Gerloc Of Normandy
|        |                                    /-----William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Theobald I Le Tricheur Count Of Blois
|        |                                   |         \-----Emma Of Blois
|        |                                   |                  \-----Luitgarde De Vermandois
|        |                           /-----William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Adalbert Marquess Of Ivrea
|        |                          |        |         /-----Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Gerberga
|        |                          |         \-----Agnes Of Burgundy
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
|        |                          |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Roucy
|        |                          |                           \-----Alberade Of Lorraine
|        |                  /-----William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
|        |                 |        |         /-----Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
|        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Adele Of Troyes
|        |                 |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
|        |                 |                           \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
|        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Raymond IV Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                           /-----William III Taileffer Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
|        |        |        |                  /-----Pons Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Rotbold Count Of Provence
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Emma Of Provence
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Ermengarde
|        |        |        |         /-----William IV Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Aldebert I Count Of Perigord
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Bernard I Count Of La Marche
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Almodis Of Limoges
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Adelmode De La Marche
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Geraud De Montignac
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Amelia De Rasez
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Nonia De Granol
|        |        |         \-----Maud Of Toulouse
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
|        |        |                 |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Duxia
|        |        |                  \-----Emma De MORTAIN
|        |        |                          |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
|        |        |                          |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|        |        |                          |        |         \-----Emma
|        |        |                           \-----Maud De Montgomery
|        |        |                                   |         /-----William II TALVAS
|        |        |                                    \-----Mabel De Belesme
|        |        |                                             \-----Hildeburg
|         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
|                 |                                    /-----Foucaud I Seigneur De La Roche In Angoumoia
|                 |                           /-----Hugh De La ROCUEFOUCAUD, Vicount Of Chateller
|                 |                          |         \-----Jarsendia
|                 |                  /-----Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Arnold Vicount Of Chatellerault
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Bosso Vicount Of Chatellerault
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Gersinde
|                 |                 |         \-----Gergerga
|                 |                 |                  \-----Amelia
|                 |         /-----Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Savaric III Vicomte De Thouars
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars
|                 |        |        |         /-----Aimery IV De THOUARS, Vicomte De Thouars
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Eudes I Count Of Blois
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Aenor
|                 |        |        |        |                  \-----Bertha Of Burgandy
|                 |        |         \-----Eleanor De THOUARS
|                 |        |                  \-----Aurengarge De MAULEON
|                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
|                          |                  /-----Archembaud Borel Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|                          |         /-----Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Bouchard II Sire De Isle And Riviere
|                          |        |        |         /-----Hugues Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Hermengarde De Villaines
|                          |        |         \-----Agnes
|                           \-----Dangerose
|                                    \-----Gerberga
Joan
|                                             /-----Walkelin De FERRIERES
|                                    /-----Henry De FERRERS, Baron Of Tutbury
|                           /-----Robert FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
|                          |         \-----Bertha
|                  /-----Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
|                 |        |                                    /-----Rivallon The Vicaire
|                 |        |                           /-----Triscan
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Guenergant Vicountess Of Rennes
|                 |        |                  /-----Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Enoguen
|                 |        |         /-----Andre I De Vitre
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Suthardus Vetulus De CREDONE
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Guerin I De CRAON
|                 |        |        |         \-----Bertha Dame De Craon
|                 |         \-----Hawise
|                 |                 |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
|                 |                 |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Duxia
|                 |                  \-----Agnes Of Mortain
|                 |                          |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
|                 |                          |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Emma
|                 |                           \-----Maud De Montgomery
|                 |                                   |         /-----William II TALVAS
|                 |                                    \-----Mabel De Belesme
|                 |                                             \-----Hildeburg
|         /-----William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
|        |        |                  /-----William PEVEREL, Baron Of Peverel
|        |        |         /-----William PEVERIL, Baron Of Peverel
|        |        |        |         \-----Adeline
|        |         \-----Margaret PEVERIL
|        |                 |                  /-----Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
|        |                 |         /-----William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Ethred Baron Of Kendal
|        |                 |        |         \-----Goditha
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Ivo TAILEBOIS
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Beatrice
|        |                 |        |                           \-----(Unk)
|        |                  \-----Avice De LANCASTER
 \-----Agatha De FERRERS
         |                                    /-----(Unk) De BRAOS
         |                           /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
         |                          |         \-----Gunnor
         |                  /-----Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
         |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
         |        |        |                  /-----Alvred Lord Of Barnstaple And Totnes
         |        |        |         /-----Johel De TOTENEIS, Baron Of Barnstaple
         |        |         \-----Aenor De TOTENEIS
         |        |                 |                  /-----Guermond Of Picquigny
         |        |                 |         /-----Eustache Of Picquigny, Vidame Of Amiens
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Adele
         |        |                  \-----(Unk Dau) Of Picquigny
          \-----Sibyl De BRAOISE
                  |                                    /-----(Unk) De PITRES
                  |                           /-----Roger De PITRES
                  |                  /-----Walter FITZ ROGER
                  |                 |         \-----Adeliza
                  |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
                  |        |        |         /-----Dru De BALLON
                  |        |         \-----Berthe De BALLON
                   \-----Bertha Of Hereford
                           |                           /-----Thurcytel Lord Of Newfmarche
                           |                  /-----Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE
                           |         /-----Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
                           |        |        |                  /-----Gulbert De St. Valerie
                           |        |        |         /-----Richard De Hugelville, Sire De Saint Valery
                           |        |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                           |        |         \-----Ada
                           |        |                 |         /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
                           |        |                  \-----Papia
                            \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
                                    |                  /-----Richard FITZ SCROB
                                    |         /-----Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle
                                    |        |        |         /-----Robert The Deacon
                                    |        |         \-----(Unk)
                                     \-----Nesta
                                             |                  /-----Llewellyn Ap Siesyll, Price Of Gwynedd
                                             |         /-----Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales
                                             |        |         \-----Angharat OB MAREDUDD
                                              \-----Nesta
                                                      |         /-----Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
                                                       \-----Aldgyth
                                                                \-----Aelfgifu



Descendants of Joan
1. Joan m. Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
m. Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales father: Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd mother: Margred Ferch Madog

2nd generation

2. Elen m1. John Le SCOT, Earl Of Chester And Huntingdon m2. Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware
m. John Le SCOT, Earl Of Chester And Huntingdon father: David Earl Of Huntingdon mother: Maud Of Chester
m. Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware father: Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret mother: Margaret BEAUMONT
3. Margaret Of Wales m1. John De BRAOSE, Baron Of Bramber m2. Walter De CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford
m. John De BRAOSE, Baron Of Bramber father: William De BRAOSE, Lord Of Gower mother: Matilda DE CLARE
m. Walter De CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford father: Walter CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford mother: Agnes De CONDET
4. Angharad m. Maelgwn Ieuanc FYCHAN, Lord Of Cardigan Is Ayron
m. Maelgwn Ieuanc FYCHAN, Lord Of Cardigan Is Ayron father: Maelgwn Hen Ap Rhys
6. Dafydd Ap Llwelyn Fawy, Prince Of Wales m1. Isabella De BRAOSE m2.
m. Isabella De BRAOSE father: William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle mother: Eve MARSHALL
7. (Unk Dau) m. Malcolm MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
m. Malcolm MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife father: Duncan MACDUFF mother: Alice CORBET

3rd generation

10. Hawise De QUINCY m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne
m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne father: Hugh WAKE, Baron Of Bourne mother: Joan De STUTEVILLE
11. William De BREUSE, Lord Breuse m1. Aline De MULTON m2. Agnes De MOELES m3. Mary De ROS
m. Aline De MULTON father: Thomas De MULTON mother: Maud De VAUX
m. Agnes De MOELES father: Nicholas De MOELS mother: Hawise De NEWMARCH
m. Mary De ROS father: Sir Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley mother: Isabel D'ALBINI
12. Sir Richard De BREUSE, Lord Of Stinton m. Alice Le RUS
m. Alice Le RUS father: William Le RUS mother: Agatha De CLERE
15. Maud De CLIFFORD m1. Sir William III De LONGESPEE m2. Sir John GIFFORD, Lord Gifford Of Brimsfield
m. Sir William III De LONGESPEE father: Sir William De LONGESPEE mother: Idoine De Camville
m. Sir John GIFFORD, Lord Gifford Of Brimsfield father: Sir Elis IV GIFFORD, Baron Of Elston mother: Alice MAUTRAVERS
16. Elena FERCH MAELGWN FYCHAN m. Maredudd AP OWAIN, Lord Of Cardigan Uch Ayron
m. Maredudd AP OWAIN, Lord Of Cardigan Uch Ayron father: Owain Ap Gruffydd
22. Annes Ferch Dafydd m. Elise Ap Iorwerth Ab Owain Brogyntyn
m. Elise Ap Iorwerth Ab Owain Brogyntyn
23. Llywelyn Ap Dafydd m.
24. Colban MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife m. Anna DURWARD
m. Anna DURWARD father: Sir Alan DURWARD mother: Marjorie
26. (Unk) Of Fife m. Sir William De MORAVIA
m. Sir William De MORAVIA father: Sir Walter De MORAVIA

4th generation

28. Sir Hugh WAKE m. Joan De BOLANY
m. Joan De BOLANY father: Baldwin De BOLANY
29. Sir John WAKE, Lord Wake m. Joan FIENNES
m. Joan FIENNES father: Sir William FIENNES mother: Blanche De BRIENNE, Lady Of Loupeland
30. William De BREWES, Lord Of Gower m1. Agnes m2. Elizabeth De SULLY
m. Agnes
m. Elizabeth De SULLY father: Sir Raymond De SULLY
31. Giles De BREUSE m1. Beatrice De St HELEN m2. Maud De WHITNEY
m. Beatrice De St HELEN father: Sir John De St HELEN mother: Juliane De FARNHAM
m. Maud De WHITNEY father: Eustace De WHITNEY
32. Margaret BREWES m. Ralph De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi
m. Ralph De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi father: John De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi mother: Margaret GATESDEN
34. Sir Piers De BREUSE m. Agnes De CLIFFORD
m. Agnes De CLIFFORD
36. Margaret De BREUSE m. Roger De COLEVILLE
m. Roger De COLEVILLE father: Walter De COLEVILLE mother: Elizabeth
37. Sir Giles De BREUSE m1. Katherine De HUNTINGFIELD m2. Joan BEAUMONT
m. Katherine De HUNTINGFIELD father: Sir Laurence De HUNTINGFIELD
m. Joan BEAUMONT father: Sir Richard De BEAUMONT mother: Alice
38. Mary De BREUSE m. Sir John WEYLAND
m. Sir John WEYLAND father: Thomas De WEYLAND mother: Ann De COLEVILL
39. Richard De BREUSE m. Alianore De FURNIVALLE
m. Alianore De FURNIVALLE father: Sir Thomas De FURNIVAL
40. Sibyl De BREUSE m. Constantine De MORTIMER
m. Constantine De MORTIMER father: William De MORTIMER mother: Alice
41. Margaret LONGESPEE, Countess of Salisbury m. Henry De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln
m. Henry De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln father: Edmund De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln, Constable Of C mother: Alice De SALUZZO
42. Catherine GIFFARD m. Sir Nicholas De AUDLEY
m. Sir Nicholas De AUDLEY father: James De AUDLEY mother: Ela LONGESPEE
43. Eleanor GIFFORD m. Fulk Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
m. Fulk Le STRANGE, Lord Strange father: Robert Le STRANGE mother: Eleanor De BLANCMINSTER
46. Owain Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Deheubarth m. Angharad
m. Angharad father: Owen Ap Meredith, Lord of Cedewen mother: Margaret Ferch Maelgon
47. Madog Ab Elise m.
48. Dafydd Ab Elise m. Myfanwy Ferch Hwfa Ab Iorwerth
m. Myfanwy Ferch Hwfa Ab Iorwerth
49. Cynwrig Ap Llywelyn m. Angharad Ferch Thomas Ap Gwion
m. Angharad Ferch Thomas Ap Gwion
50. Marjory m. Alan De MENTEITH, Earl Of Menteith
m. Alan De MENTEITH, Earl Of Menteith father: Alexander De MENTEITH, Earl Of Menteith mother: Matilda
51. Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife m. Joan De CLARE
m. Joan De CLARE father: Sir Gilbert DeCLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertford mother: Alice De LUSIGNAN
52. Sir Walter De MORAVIA m. (Unk) OLIFARD
m. (Unk) OLIFARD father: David OLIFARD, Lord Of Bothwell mother: Devergulla De ABERNETHY

5th generation

54. Mirabel WAKE m1. Hugh De St JOHN, Lord St John m2. Thomas De ASPALE
m. Hugh De St JOHN, Lord St John father: Sir John De St JOHN, Lord St John mother: Isabel COURTENAY
m. Thomas De ASPALE father: Sir Robert De ASPALE mother: Alice De CRESSINGHAM
57. Margaret WAKE, Baroness Wake m1. Sir John COMYN m2. Edmund Of Woodstock PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Kent
m. Sir John COMYN father: John The Red COMYN, Lord Of Badenock mother: Joan De VALENCE
m. Edmund Of Woodstock PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Kent father: Edward I King Of England mother: Marguerite Of France
59. Joan BREWES m1. James De BOHUN m2. Sir Richard FOLIOT, Lord Foliot
m. James De BOHUN father: Sir John De BOHUN mother: Joan De La CHAPPELLE
m. Sir Richard FOLIOT, Lord Foliot father: Sir Jordan FOLIOT, Lord Foliot mother: Margery De NEWMARCHE
60. Aliva De BRAOS m1. Sir John De MOWBRAY, Lord Mowbray m2. Sir Richard De PESHALE
m. Sir John De MOWBRAY, Lord Mowbray father: Roger De MOWBRAY, Lord Mowbray mother: Rohese CLARE
m. Sir Richard De PESHALE father: Adam De PESHALE mother: Alice De SWINNERTON
61. Lucy De BREUSE m1. Robert MALTRAVERS m2. John De PAULESHOLT
m. Robert MALTRAVERS father: John MALTRAVERS
m. John De PAULESHOLT
62. Maud De BREUSE m. William De BYKEBURY
m. William De BYKEBURY
63. Sir John De BREUSE m. Sarah
m. Sarah
64. Sir Thomas De COMOYS, Lord Comoys m. Margaret
m. Margaret
65. Sir Thomas De BREWOSE, Lord Brewose m. Beatrice MORTIMER
m. Beatrice MORTIMER father: Sir Roger MORTIMER, Earl Of March mother: Joan De GENEVILLE, Countess Of March
66. Sir John De BREUSE m. Margaret De TREHAMPTON
m. Margaret De TREHAMPTON father: Sir Ranulphus De TREHAMPTON mother: Joan De DIVE
67. Sir Piers De BREUSE m1. Joan De PERCY m2. Joan HOWARD
m. Joan De PERCY father: Nicholas De PERCY mother: Joan FOLIOT
m. Joan HOWARD father: Sir John HOWARD mother: Alice De BOYS
68. Margaret De BRAOSE m1. Henry TYEYS, Lord Tyeys m2. Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer
m. Henry TYEYS, Lord Tyeys father: Sir Henry TYEYS, Lord Tyeys mother: Hawise De MONTAGU
m. Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer father: Ralph De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer mother: Joan PLANTAGENET
69. Mary De BREUSE m1. Sir Ralph De COBHAM, Lord Cobham m2. Thomas Of Brotherton PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Norfolk
m. Sir Ralph De COBHAM, Lord Cobham father: John De COBHAM
m. Thomas Of Brotherton PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Norfolk father: Edward I King Of England mother: Marguerite Of France
70. Edmund De COLEVILLE m. Margaret De UFFORD
m. Margaret De UFFORD father: Robert De UFFORD, Justiciar Of Ireland mother: Mary
71. Elizabeth COLVILL m. Ralph BASSET
m. Ralph BASSET father: Simon BASSET
72. Alice COLVILLE m1. Guy GOBAUD m2. Sir John GERNON
m. Guy GOBAUD
m. Sir John GERNON father: Sir William GERNON mother: Isabel De HERDEBURGH
75. Sir John De BREUSE m. Eve UFFORD
m. Eve UFFORD father: Sir Robert De UFFORD, Lord Ufford mother: Cecily De VALOINES
77. Sir Richard De WEYLAND m. Joan De UFFORD
m. Joan De UFFORD father: Sir Robert De UFFORD, Lord Ufford mother: Cecily De VALOINES
78. Sir Richard De BREUSE m. Eleanor De SHELTON
m. Eleanor De SHELTON father: Sir John De SHELTON
79. Sir Constantine De MORTIMER m. Agnes
m. Agnes
88. Sir Nicholas De AUDLEY, Lord Audley Of Heleigh m. Joan De MARTIN
m. Joan De MARTIN father: William MARTIN, Lord Martin mother: Eleanor FITZ PIERS
89. Elizabeth Le STRANGE m. Robert CORBET
m. Robert CORBET father: Thomas CORBET
90. Maud Le STRANGE m. Bryan De CORNWALL
m. Bryan De CORNWALL father: Sir Edmund De CORNWALL mother: Elizabeth BRAMPTON
91. Fulk Le STRANGE m.
92. John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange m. Ankaret BUTLER
m. Ankaret BUTLER father: William Le BOTILLER, Lord Botiller mother: Ela HERDEBURGH
93. Llywelyn AP OWAIN, Lord Of Gwynnionith And Caerwe m1. Gwanas m2. (Unk Dau) De VALE
m. Gwanas father: Thomas Ap Robinod
m. (Unk Dau) De VALE father: Sir Robert De VALE, Lord Of Trefgarn
94. Efa Ferch Madog m. Gruffyd Ap Llywelyn Ap Cynwrig
m. Gruffyd Ap Llywelyn Ap Cynwrig father: Llwewllyn AP CYNRIG
95. Margred Ferch Madog m. Ithel Ap Gwrgeneu Fychan
m. Ithel Ap Gwrgeneu Fychan
96. Lleuca Ferch Madog m. Gronwy Llwyd Ab Y Penwyn
m. Gronwy Llwyd Ab Y Penwyn
97. Gruffudd Ap Dafydd m.
98. Dafydd Llwyd Ap Cynwrig m. Annes Ferch Gwyn Ap Madog
m. Annes Ferch Gwyn Ap Madog
99. Alan De MENTEITH m.
100. Mary Countess Of Menteith m. Sir John GRAHAM, Earl Of Menteith
m. Sir John GRAHAM, Earl Of Menteith father: Sir Patrick GRAHAM mother: Annabelle Of Strathearn
102. Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife m. Mary De MONTHERMER
m. Mary De MONTHERMER father: Ralph De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer mother: Joan PLANTAGENET
103. Sir Andrew De MORAVIA m1. (Unk Dau) COMYN m2. Euphemia
m. (Unk Dau) COMYN father: Sir John The Red COMYN mother: Eve
m. Euphemia father: Roger FITZ JOHN, Baron Of Whalton mother: Isabel