Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Elen Death: Before 24 Oct 1253
- Margaret Of Wales Death: After 1268
- Angharad
- Susanna
- Dafydd Ap Llwelyn Fawy, Prince Of Wales Birth: Abt 1208
Death: 25 Feb 1246 in Aber
- (Unk Dau) Birth: 1234
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- before 1200 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]
- in or before 1189 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]
- not much after 1192, but before 1200 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80]
- well before 1200 [Ref: Weis AR7 #29A],
- parents:
- [Ref: ES III.2 #356B, Paget HRHCharles p16],
- father:
- [Ref: CMH p608, CP I p22, Hoff LLOYD p142, Jacobs Clemencia p176,
Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390, Roberts
RD600 p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600 p411,
Roberts RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413, Sheppard Joan p29, Sheppard
RoyalByeBlowsI p98, Watney WALLOP #613, Weis AR7 #176, Weis AR7 #27, Weis AR7
#29A, Weis MC #114],
- mother:
- [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- mother:
- Clemence [Ref: Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, William Reitwiesner SGM 11/7/2001-224738]
- Clemence, possibly Clemence le BOTILLER (#14628) [Ref: Richardson
RoyalAnc v1p52(26), Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390, Roberts RD600
p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600 p411, Roberts
RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413]
- Constance Duchess of Brittany (#11529) [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142, Jacobs
Clemencia p176]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: ES III.2 #356, Paget HRHCharles p16, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
- 1236/7 [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142]
- 1237 [Ref: CMH p608]
- 30 Mar 1236 or Feb 1237 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p80, Weis AR7 #29A]
- Feb 1237 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #613]
- either 30 Msay 1236 or Feb 1237 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p30],
- place:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p16, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p299]
Sources with Information about marriage to Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
- date:
- 1204 [Ref: ES III.2 #356, Paget HRHCharles p16]
- 1205 [Ref: Weis AR7 #176]
- 1205/6 [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p142]
- 1206 [Ref: Weis AR7 #29A]
- before 23 Mar 1204/5 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]
- betrothed 15 Oct 1204, married 1205 or 1206 [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]
- betrothed before 15 Oct 1204 Married Ascenciontide 1206 [Ref:
Reitwiesner Joan p80]
- second marriage of Llewellyn [Ref: CP I p22],
- names:
- [Ref: CMH p608, Richardson PA p11, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p53, Sheppard
RoyalByeBlowsI p98, Weis AR7 #27, Weis MC #41, William Reitwiesner SGM
11/7/2001-224738],
- child:
- [Ref: Don Stone SGM 9/15/1997-025622, Douglas Richardson SGM 12/3/2000,
Hoff LLOYD p142, MacEwen Elen, Reitwiesner Joan p82, Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Roberts RD600 p387, Roberts RD600 p390,
Roberts RD600 p393, Roberts RD600 p408, Roberts RD600 p409, Roberts RD600
p411, Roberts RD600 p412, Roberts RD600 p413, Sheppard Joan p30, Watney WALLOP
#613, Weis AR7 #236, Weis AR7 #246, Weis AR7 #254, Weis AR7 #29A, Weis MC
#114]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Gladys DHU (#10265) [Ref: CP I p22, CP IX p276, Paget HRHCharles p476,
Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p164, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p298, Sanders Baronies p98(7), Watney WALLOP #613]
- Helen (#13699) wife of Malcoln Earl of Fife and Donald Earl of Mar
[Ref: CP I p306, CP V p373, CP VIII p403 (with corr in XIV p464), Reitwiesner
Joan p84, Reitwiesner Joan p86, SP I p427, SP IV p9, SP V p578, Watney WALLOP
#31, Watney WALLOP #651, Weis AR7 #252, Weis MC #41]
Research Notes:
maritagium included the castles (or manors) of Ellesmere, Knighton, and
Norton, Shropshire, as well as the manors of Bidford, Warwickshire, and
Suckley, Worcestershire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298]
The Tewkesbury Annals, when they report Joan's death, report it as follows:
Obiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini, filia regis Johannis et
reginae Clemenciae, iii kal. Aprilis.
See *Rerum Britannicarum medii aevi scriptores*, volume 36 [London, 1864],
p. 101. So for most people the question is "who was this Queen Clemencia"?
Some have guessed that Joan was a child of John by his first wife Isabel of
Gloucester, others that Clemencia was John's sister-in-law Constance of
Brittany. Others say that Clemencia, no "Queen", was lowborn. Still others say
that the Annals were completely wrong and that Joan was John's daughter by
Agatha de Ferrieres, daughter of the 3rd Earl of Derby by Sibyl de Braiose.
Those are the major theories, but no consensus has been reached.
[Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 2/8/1996]
daughter of "Queen Clemencia" according to Tewkesbury Annals, written
about 1236. Some: John's first queen, Isabel of Gloucester. Another: Agatha
daughter of Robert Lord Ferrers Earl of Derby [Ref: Sheppard Joan p29]
Joan was legitimated by rescript of Pope Honorius III dated 29 April 1226. See
*Regesta Honorii Papae III*, volume III, part 2 [Roma, 1895], pp. 417-418,
#5906. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 2/8/1996]
There's one and only one place where her mother is named, and that's in the
Tewkesbury annals. It's been published, and you can see the entry yourself.
You may have to go to one of the larger research libraries, but it's in the
*Rerum Britannicarum Medii Aevi Scriptores* series, vol. 36 (1864), and it's
called "Annales de Theokesberia." Look on page 101, and you'll see this
entry:
Ibiit domina Johanna domina Walliae, uxor Lewelini, filia regis Johannis et
reginae Clemenciae iii. kal. Aprilis.
Translated into English it reads "Died Lady Joan lady of Wales, wife of
Llywelyn, daughter of King John and Queen Clemencia, 30 March."
So how do we interpret this entry? It's obviously wrong in what it actually
says, because there never was a Queen Clemencia in England. Some have said
that "Reginae" is the part that's wrong, and that Joan's mother was a woman
named Clemencia. Some of these say that Clemencia was a woman of low birth,
others try to find a Baron's wife or daughter living at about the right time
named Clemencia (so far I've seen five different candidates put forward).
Others say that it's the "Clemenciae" part that's wrong (or it's a
description, "the kind queen"), and that Joan was a legitimate daughter of
John by his first wife Isabel, and was illegitimated when John divorced
Isabel. Or that Joan's mother was John's sister-in-law Constance. Another
group sayd that both "reginae" and "Clemenciae" are wrong and that "reginae
Clemenciae" means Agatha Ferrers, daughter of the Earl of Derby. Quite a lot
of disagreement over what two little words mean, but on the other hand those
two little words are *all* we have to go on. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM
9/5/1996]
The identity of Clemence, mother of Joan, is presently unknown. She is perhaps
the same person as Clemence le Boteler, wife of Nicholas de Verdun (died 1231)
of Brandon (in Wolston), Warwickshire, Alson, Staffordshire, etc. In 1228
Nicholas and his wife Clemence were granted custody of the king's niece,
Susanna, daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of North Wales, and his wife, Joan. If
Clemence was Susanna's grandmother, it would explain her inclusion in the
grant of Susanna's custody. Regardless, stronger evidence is needed before any
firm conclusion can be drawn about a possible relationship between these
families. [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p52(26)]
1226: legitimated by a rescript of Pope Honorius III [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p299]
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Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
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Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
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Emma
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Maud De Montgomery
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William II TALVAS
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Mabel De Belesme
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Hildeburg
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Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
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Foucaud I Seigneur De La Roche In Angoumoia
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Hugh De La ROCUEFOUCAUD, Vicount Of Chateller
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Jarsendia
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Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
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Arnold Vicount Of Chatellerault
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Bosso Vicount Of Chatellerault
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Gersinde
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Gergerga
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Amelia
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Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
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Savaric III Vicomte De Thouars
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Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars
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Aimery IV De THOUARS, Vicomte De Thouars
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Eudes I Count Of Blois
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Aenor
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Bertha Of Burgandy
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Eleanor De THOUARS
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Aurengarge De MAULEON
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Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
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Archembaud Borel Sire De Isle-Bouchard
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Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
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Bouchard II Sire De Isle And Riviere
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Hugues Sire De Isle-Bouchard
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Hermengarde De Villaines
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Agnes
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Dangerose
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Gerberga
Joan
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Walkelin De FERRIERES
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Henry De FERRERS, Baron Of Tutbury
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Robert FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Bertha
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Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Rivallon The Vicaire
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Triscan
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Guenergant Vicountess Of Rennes
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Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
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Enoguen
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Andre I De Vitre
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Suthardus Vetulus De CREDONE
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Guerin I De CRAON
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Bertha Dame De Craon
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Hawise
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Herluin De Contreville
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Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
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Fulbert Of Falaise
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Herleve Of Falaise
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Duxia
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Agnes Of Mortain
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Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
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Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
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Emma
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Maud De Montgomery
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William II TALVAS
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Mabel De Belesme
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Hildeburg
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William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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William PEVEREL, Baron Of Peverel
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William PEVERIL, Baron Of Peverel
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Adeline
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Margaret PEVERIL
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Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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Ethred Baron Of Kendal
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Goditha
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Ivo TAILEBOIS
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Beatrice
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(Unk)
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Avice De LANCASTER
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Agatha De FERRERS
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(Unk) De BRAOS
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William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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Gunnor
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Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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Alvred Lord Of Barnstaple And Totnes
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Johel De TOTENEIS, Baron Of Barnstaple
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Aenor De TOTENEIS
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Guermond Of Picquigny
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Eustache Of Picquigny, Vidame Of Amiens
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Adele
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(Unk Dau) Of Picquigny
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Sibyl De BRAOISE
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(Unk) De PITRES
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Roger De PITRES
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Walter FITZ ROGER
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Adeliza
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Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
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Dru De BALLON
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Berthe De BALLON
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Bertha Of Hereford
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Thurcytel Lord Of Newfmarche
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Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE
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Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
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Gulbert De St. Valerie
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Richard De Hugelville, Sire De Saint Valery
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(Unk Dau)
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Ada
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Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
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Papia
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Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
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Richard FITZ SCROB
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Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle
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Robert The Deacon
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(Unk)
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Nesta
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Llewellyn Ap Siesyll, Price Of Gwynedd
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Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales
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Angharat OB MAREDUDD
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Nesta
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Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
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Aldgyth
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Aelfgifu
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