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Marriage:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Anne De QUINCY Death: After 1257
  2. Joan De QUINCY Birth: Abt 1245 Death: 25 Nov 1283
  3. Hawise De QUINCY Birth: Abt 1250 Death: Abt 27 Mar 1285

Bibliography
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  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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  20. Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis MC #[0-9][0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: MacEwen Elen, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p298, Watney WALLOP #613, Weis AR7 #236, Weis MC #114],
father:
[Ref: CP III p169, CP VI p463, CP XII/2 p301, CP XII/2 p751(e), ES II #90, ES III.4 #708, Farnham Pedigrees p11, Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site), Louda RoyalFamEurope #12, Paget HRHCharles p155, Reitwiesner Joan p84, Richardson PA p120, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p415, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p287, Watney WALLOP #821, Weis AR7 #184A]
Sources for death Information
date:
1253 [Ref: Louda RoyalFamEurope #12, Weis AR7 #236]
1253 before 24 Oct [Ref: CP III p170, Reitwiesner Joan p84]
1253 vor 24.X [Ref: ES III.4 #708]
shortly before 24 Oct 1253 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225]
Sources with Information about marriage to John Le SCOT, Earl Of Chester And Huntingdon
date:
1222 [Ref: CP III p169, ES II #90, Louda RoyalFamEurope #12, Paget HRHCharles p155, Reitwiesner Joan p84]
abt 22 Aug 1222 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p224, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302]
first marriage of Helen [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e), Clutterbuck Hertford v3p287, ES III.4 #708, Watney WALLOP #613, Weis AR7 #236],
names:
[Ref: CP IV AppH p669, Farnham Pedigrees p11]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware
date:
1222 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #613, Watney WALLOP #821]
after 1237 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p84]
after 7 Jun and before 22 Nov 1237 [Ref: MacEwen Elen]
before 5 Dec 1237 [Ref: CP III p170, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302]
second marriage of Helen [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e), Clutterbuck Hertford v3p287, Weis AR7 #236]
vor 5.XII 1237 [Ref: ES III.4 #708],
names:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p443],
child:
[Ref: CP VI p463(f), CP VI p463, CP XII/2 p300, Clutterbuck Hertford v3p287, Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site), Reitwiesner Joan p84, Richardson PA p120, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p415, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p287, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302, Watney WALLOP #821, Weis AR7 #184A, Weis AR7 #236, Weis MC #114]
Research Notes:
received manors of Bidford, Co Warwick, and Suckley, co Worcester, as maritagium [Ref: Weis AR7 #236]

in a letter dated 22 June 1237, King Henry III advises that he has heard of the death of John Earl of Chester and Huntingdon and "commands that they cause his niece the Countess of Chester to be honourably kept and sustained till she shall be certified of her state, and shall otherwise provide for her" [Ref: MacEwen Elen]



Pedigree of Elen
                                                                /-----Meyric Prince Of North Wales
                                                       /-----Idwal Prince Of North Wales
                                              /-----Iago Ab Idwal, Prince Of Gwynedd
                                     /-----Cynan Ap Iago, Prince Of North Wales
                            /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
                           |        |                           /-----Olaf III Sihtricsson, King Of Yorks And Dublin
                           |        |                  /-----Sihtric III Of The Silken Beard OLAFSON, King Of Dublin
                           |        |                 |         \-----Gormflaith Of Nass
                           |        |         /-----Olaf Of Dublin
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Brian Boruma, King Of Cashel And Munster, High
                           |        |        |         \-----Slani
                           |        |        |                  \-----Echrad
                           |         \-----Ragnaillt Of Dublin
                           |                 |                  /-----Tuathal Ui DUNLAINGE, King Of Laigin & Leinster
                           |                 |         /-----Dunlang Ui DUNLAINGE, King Of Laigin & Leinster
                           |                  \-----Maelcorcre Of Leinster
                   /-----Owain Gwynedd Prince Of Gwynedd
                  |        |                  /-----Edwin Ap Gronwy Of Tegeingl
                  |        |         /-----Owain Ap Edwin
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Gwerystan
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Cynfyn Ap Gwerystan
                  |        |        |         \-----Iwerydd Ferch Cynfyn
                  |         \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
                  |                 |         /-----Ednywain Bendew I Ap Neinad
                  |                  \-----Morwyl Ferch Ednywain Bendew
          /-----Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd
         |        |                           /-----Caradog
         |        |                  /-----Trahaern Of Arwystil, King Of Gwynedd
         |        |         /-----Llywarch
         |         \-----Gladys Ferch Llywarch
         |                  \-----Dyddgu Of Builth
 /-----Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
|        |                                             /-----Gwerystan
|        |                                    /-----Cynfyn Ap Gwerystan
|        |                           /-----Bleddyn Ap Cynfyn, King Of Gwynedd And Powys
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Owain Ap Hywel, Prince Of Deheubarth
|        |                          |        |         /-----Maredudd Ab Owain, Prince Of Deheubarth
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Angharad Ferch Llywelyn
|        |                          |         \-----Angharad Ferch Maredudd
|        |                  /-----Maredudd Ap Bleddyn
|        |                 |        |         /-----Cillin Y Blaidd Rhudd
|        |                 |         \-----Haer Ferch Cillin
|        |         /-----Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
|        |        |        |         /-----Einudd
|        |        |         \-----Hunydd Ferch Einudd
|         \-----Margred Ferch Madog
|                 |                                             /-----Meyric Prince Of North Wales
|                 |                                    /-----Idwal Prince Of North Wales
|                 |                           /-----Iago Ab Idwal, Prince Of Gwynedd
|                 |                  /-----Cynan Ap Iago, Prince Of North Wales
|                 |         /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Olaf III Sihtricsson, King Of Yorks And Dublin
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Sihtric III Of The Silken Beard OLAFSON, King Of Dublin
|                 |        |        |                 |         \-----Gormflaith Of Nass
|                 |        |        |         /-----Olaf Of Dublin
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Brian Boruma, King Of Cashel And Munster, High
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Slani
|                 |        |        |        |                  \-----Echrad
|                 |        |         \-----Ragnaillt Of Dublin
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Tuathal Ui DUNLAINGE, King Of Laigin & Leinster
|                 |        |                 |         /-----Dunlang Ui DUNLAINGE, King Of Laigin & Leinster
|                 |        |                  \-----Maelcorcre Of Leinster
|                  \-----Susanna Ferch Gruffudd Ap Cynan
|                          |                  /-----Edwin Ap Gronwy Of Tegeingl
|                          |         /-----Owain Ap Edwin
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Gwerystan
|                          |        |        |         /-----Cynfyn Ap Gwerystan
|                          |        |         \-----Iwerydd Ferch Cynfyn
|                           \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
|                                   |         /-----Ednywain Bendew I Ap Neinad
|                                    \-----Morwyl Ferch Ednywain Bendew
Elen
|                                                               /-----Hugo Of Perch
|                                                      /-----Geoffrey Ferreol Count Of The Gatinais
|                                                     |         \-----Beatrix Of Macon
|                                             /-----Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou
|                                            |        |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
|                                            |         \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
|                                            |                  \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
|                                    /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
|                                   |        |                  /-----Amauri III De MONTFORT
|                                   |        |         /-----Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
|                                   |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De GOMMETZ
|                                   |         \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
|                                   |                 |         /-----Richard Count Of Evereux
|                                   |                  \-----Agnes Of Evereux
|                                   |                           \-----Godehildie
|                           /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
|                          |        |                           /-----Lancellin I Sire De Baugency In Orleanais
|                          |        |                  /-----John De BAUGENCY, Seigneur De La Fleche
|                          |        |         /-----Helias Count Of Maine
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Herbert Count Of Maine
|                          |        |        |         \-----Paula Of Maine
|                          |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
|                          |                 |                  /-----Robert Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
|                          |                 |         /-----Gervase Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
|                          |                 |        |         \-----Elizabeth
|                          |                  \-----Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
|                          |                           \-----Aremburge
|                          |                                    \-----Mathilde
|                  /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|                 |        |                                    /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
|                 |        |                           /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Judith Of Brittany
|                 |        |                  /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Duxia
|                 |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Baldwin IV The Bearded Count Of Flanders
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Ogive Of Luxembourg
|                 |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of France
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Constance Of Provence
|                 |         \-----Matilda
|                 |                 |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
|                 |                 |                  /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Bethoc
|                 |                 |         /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Aelflaed
|                 |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
|                 |                          |                  /-----Edmund Ironside King Of England
|                 |                          |         /-----Edward Athling The Exile
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Ealgyth
|                 |                           \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
|                 |                                   |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
|                 |                                    \-----Agatha
|                 |                                             \-----Ingegard
|         /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|        |        |                                             /-----William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |                                    /-----William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Emma Of Blois
|        |        |                           /-----William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
|        |        |                          |         \-----Agnes Of Burgundy
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Roucy
|        |        |                  /-----William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|        |        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Burgundy
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
|        |        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----William III Taileffer Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Pons Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Emma Of Provence
|        |        |        |        |         /-----William IV Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Bernard I Count Of La Marche
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Adelmode De La Marche
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Amelia De Rasez
|        |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
|        |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|        |        |        |                  \-----Emma De MORTAIN
|        |        |        |                          |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|        |        |        |                           \-----Maud De Montgomery
|        |        |        |                                    \-----Mabel De Belesme
|        |         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
|        |                 |                                    /-----Foucaud I Seigneur De La Roche In Angoumoia
|        |                 |                           /-----Hugh De La ROCUEFOUCAUD, Vicount Of Chateller
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Jarsendia
|        |                 |                  /-----Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Bosso Vicount Of Chatellerault
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Gergerga
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Amelia
|        |                 |         /-----Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Aimery IV De THOUARS, Vicomte De Thouars
|        |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Aenor
|        |                 |        |         \-----Eleanor De THOUARS
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Aurengarge De MAULEON
|        |                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
|        |                          |                  /-----Archembaud Borel Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|        |                          |         /-----Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Hugues Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|        |                          |        |         \-----Agnes
|        |                           \-----Dangerose
|        |                                    \-----Gerberga
 \-----Joan
         |                                             /-----Walkelin De FERRIERES
         |                                    /-----Henry De FERRERS, Baron Of Tutbury
         |                           /-----Robert FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
         |                          |         \-----Bertha
         |                  /-----Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
         |                 |        |                           /-----Triscan
         |                 |        |                  /-----Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
         |                 |        |                 |         \-----Enoguen
         |                 |        |         /-----Andre I De Vitre
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Guerin I De CRAON
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Bertha Dame De Craon
         |                 |         \-----Hawise
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
         |                 |                 |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
         |                 |                  \-----Agnes Of Mortain
         |                 |                          |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
         |                 |                           \-----Maud De Montgomery
         |                 |                                    \-----Mabel De Belesme
         |         /-----William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
         |        |        |                  /-----William PEVEREL, Baron Of Peverel
         |        |        |         /-----William PEVERIL, Baron Of Peverel
         |        |        |        |         \-----Adeline
         |        |         \-----Margaret PEVERIL
         |        |                 |                  /-----Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
         |        |                 |         /-----William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
         |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Ethred Baron Of Kendal
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Goditha
         |        |                 |        |                  \-----Beatrice
         |        |                  \-----Avice De LANCASTER
          \-----Agatha De FERRERS
                  |                                    /-----(Unk) De BRAOS
                  |                           /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                  |                          |         \-----Gunnor
                  |                  /-----Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                  |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                  |        |        |                  /-----Alvred Lord Of Barnstaple And Totnes
                  |        |        |         /-----Johel De TOTENEIS, Baron Of Barnstaple
                  |        |         \-----Aenor De TOTENEIS
                  |        |                 |                  /-----Guermond Of Picquigny
                  |        |                 |         /-----Eustache Of Picquigny, Vidame Of Amiens
                  |        |                 |        |         \-----Adele
                  |        |                  \-----(Unk Dau) Of Picquigny
                   \-----Sibyl De BRAOISE
                           |                                    /-----(Unk) De PITRES
                           |                           /-----Roger De PITRES
                           |                  /-----Walter FITZ ROGER
                           |                 |         \-----Adeliza
                           |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
                           |        |        |         /-----Dru De BALLON
                           |        |         \-----Berthe De BALLON
                            \-----Bertha Of Hereford
                                    |                           /-----Thurcytel Lord Of Newfmarche
                                    |                  /-----Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE
                                    |         /-----Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
                                    |        |        |         /-----Richard De Hugelville, Sire De Saint Valery
                                    |        |         \-----Ada
                                    |        |                  \-----Papia
                                     \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
                                             |                  /-----Richard FITZ SCROB
                                             |         /-----Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle
                                             |        |         \-----(Unk)
                                              \-----Nesta
                                                      |         /-----Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales
                                                       \-----Nesta
                                                                \-----Aldgyth



Descendants of Elen
1. Elen m1. John Le SCOT, Earl Of Chester And Huntingdon m2. Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware
m. John Le SCOT, Earl Of Chester And Huntingdon father: David Earl Of Huntingdon mother: Maud Of Chester
m. Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware father: Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret mother: Margaret BEAUMONT

2nd generation

4. Hawise De QUINCY m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne
m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne father: Hugh WAKE, Baron Of Bourne mother: Joan De STUTEVILLE

3rd generation

6. Sir Hugh WAKE m. Joan De BOLANY
m. Joan De BOLANY father: Baldwin De BOLANY
7. Sir John WAKE, Lord Wake m. Joan FIENNES
m. Joan FIENNES father: Sir William FIENNES mother: Blanche De BRIENNE, Lady Of Loupeland

4th generation

9. Mirabel WAKE m1. Hugh De St JOHN, Lord St John m2. Thomas De ASPALE
m. Hugh De St JOHN, Lord St John father: Sir John De St JOHN, Lord St John mother: Isabel COURTENAY
m. Thomas De ASPALE father: Sir Robert De ASPALE mother: Alice De CRESSINGHAM
12. Margaret WAKE, Baroness Wake m1. Sir John COMYN m2. Edmund Of Woodstock PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Kent
m. Sir John COMYN father: John The Red COMYN, Lord Of Badenock mother: Joan De VALENCE
m. Edmund Of Woodstock PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Kent father: Edward I King Of England mother: Marguerite Of France

5th generation

13. Margaret De St JOHN m. John De St PHILIBERT, Lord St Philibert
m. John De St PHILIBERT, Lord St Philibert father: Sir John De St PHILIBERT mother: Ada De BOTETOURTE
15. Isabel De St JOHN, Baroness St John m1. Henry De BURGHERSH m2. Sir Luke De POYNINGS, Lord Poynings m3. Sir Thomas WORTING
m. Henry De BURGHERSH father: Sir Bartholomew De BURGHERSH, Lord Burghersh mother: Elizabeth De VERDUN
m. Sir Luke De POYNINGS, Lord Poynings father: Sir Thomas De POYNINGS mother: Agnes De ROKESLEY
m. Sir Thomas WORTING father: Thomas WORTING
16. Sir John De ASPALE m. Katherine De PECCHE, Baroness Pecche
m. Katherine De PECCHE, Baroness Pecche father: Gilbert De PECCHE, Lord Pecche mother: Joan
20. Joan PLANTAGENET, Fair Maid Of Kent, Countess m1. Sir Thomas De HOLAND, K.G., Earl Of Kent m2. William De MONTAGU, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury m3. Edward The Black K.G., Prince of Aquitaine and Wales
m. Sir Thomas De HOLAND, K.G., Earl Of Kent father: Sir Robert De HOLAND, Lord Holand mother: Maud La Zouche
m. William De MONTAGU, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury father: Sir William De MONTAGU, Earl Of Salisbury mother: Katharine De GRANDISON
m. Edward The Black K.G., Prince of Aquitaine and Wales father: Edward III King Of England mother: Philippa Of Hainault