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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Margred Ferch Thomas
  2. Elen Ferch Thomas

Bibliography
  1. Hoff, Henry B, Lloyd-Yale-Eaton Royal Descent, TAG v52 (1976) p142-4. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p[0-9]*].
  2. Parsons, John Carmi, Owain Glyndwr Prince of Wales. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/19/1998. Subject: Owain Glyndwr Prince of Wales. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/kucJYLotewg/m/zKM3tmwlW1cJ. Author address: jparsons at chass dot utoronto dot ca. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 12/19/1998].
  3. Moncreiffe, Sir Ian of that Ilk, Royal Highness: Ancestors of the Royal Child. London: Hamish Hamilton, 1982. NYPL ARF 83-3293. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p[0-9]*].
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  5. Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, Medieval Heritage: The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England, The Genealogist, 2:157-68, 3:25-44, 3:175-94, 4:144-58, 5:64-72, 5:226-39, 6:100-3, 6:148-65, 7-8:137-43, 9:40-4, 10:73-85, 11:63-72, 11:184-93, 12:83-90, 12:250-6, 13:92-9, 13:252-6, 14:81-4, 14:207-10, 15:99-103, 15:220-4, 16:93-8, 16:227-31, 17:61-4, 17:250-5, 18:123-7, 18:228-31, 19:62-8, 19:251-5, 20:85-8, 20:184-90, 21:71-5, 21:250-4, 22:101-6, 22:186-91, 23:73-9, 23:203-8, 24:110-27, 24:239-54, 25:56-73, 25:214-32, 26:77-101, 26:202-26, 27:189, 28:90, 33:300. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Reprinted, with further corrections, as Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton & Gunn, 2012. NYPL ARF 13-5787. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v[0-9]*-[0-9]*].
  6. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
  7. Reitwiesner, William Addams, Wives of Llyelyn ab Owain. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/6/1998. Subject: Eleanor of BAR. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Aeuf0ZVD91w/m/lsK-e675FM8J. Author address: wrei at erols dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 9/6/1998].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
before 14 Aug 1343 [Ref: Weis AR7 #254],
parents:
Llewelyn & dau Robert de Vale [Ref: Weis AR7 #254]
Llywelyn AP OWAIN & ___ De VALE [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p143],
father:
[Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 12/19/1998, Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p11]
Sources for death Information
date:
1343 [Ref: Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p11, Thompson CharlesII v24-122]
before 14 Aug 1343 [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p143]
Sources with Information about marriage to Eleanor GOCH
names:
Thomas Ap Llewellyn & Eleanor Ferch Philip Ap Ifor [Ref: Weis AR7 #254]
Thomas Ap Llewellyn & Eleanor GOCH [Ref: Weis AR7 #260],
child:
[Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-122, Weis AR7 #249, Weis AR7 #251, Weis AR7 #254]
Research Notes:
Lord of a quarter of Gwynnionith and half of Iscoed Uchiwern [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p143]
Lord of a moiety of Iscoed Uchirwern [Ref: Weis AR7 #254]
Prince of Deheubarth [Ref: Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p11]

of the commote (district) Is Coed, Cardiganshire [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-122]
unfortunately the Welsh genealogical manuscripts, at different places, give *both* of Llywelyn's wives as Thomas's mother [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 9/6/1998]

identity of his wife is not clear, but she was not the daughter of the imaginary "Princess Catherine" [Ref: Hoff LLOYD p143]



Pedigree of Thomas AP LLEWELLYN, Lord Of Iscoed Uchirwern
                                                                /-----Rhys Ap Tudor Mawr Prince Of South Wales
                                                       /-----Gruffydd Ap Rhys, Prince Of Deheubarth
                                                      |         \-----Gladys Of Powys
                                              /-----Rhys Ap Gruffydd, Prince Of Deheubarth
                                             |        |         /-----Gruffydd Ap CYNN
                                             |         \-----Gwenllian
                                     /-----Gruffydd Ap Rhys, Prince Of Deheubarth
                            /-----Owain Ap Gruffydd
                           |        |                           /-----Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                           |        |                  /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                           |        |                 |         \-----Aenor De TOTENEIS
                           |        |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
                           |        |        |         \-----Bertha Of Hereford
                           |        |        |                  \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
                           |         \-----Maud De BRAOS
                           |                 |                  /-----Reginald De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
                           |                 |         /-----Bernard De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
                           |                  \-----Matilda De ST VALERIE De HAIA
                           |                           \-----Matilda
                   /-----Maredudd AP OWAIN, Lord Of Cardigan Uch Ayron
          /-----Owain Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Deheubarth
         |        |                                             /-----Rhys Ap Tudor Mawr Prince Of South Wales
         |        |                                    /-----Gruffydd Ap Rhys, Prince Of Deheubarth
         |        |                                   |         \-----Gladys Of Powys
         |        |                           /-----Rhys Ap Gruffydd, Prince Of Deheubarth
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Gruffydd Ap CYNN
         |        |                          |         \-----Gwenllian
         |        |                  /-----Maelgwn Hen Ap Rhys
         |        |         /-----Maelgwn Ieuanc FYCHAN, Lord Of Cardigan Is Ayron
         |         \-----Elena FERCH MAELGWN FYCHAN
         |                 |                                    /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
         |                 |                           /-----Owain Gwynedd Prince Of Gwynedd
         |                 |                          |         \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
         |                 |                  /-----Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Llywarch
         |                 |                 |         \-----Gladys Ferch Llywarch
         |                 |                 |                  \-----Dyddgu Of Builth
         |                 |         /-----Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Maredudd Ap Bleddyn
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
         |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Hunydd Ferch Einudd
         |                 |        |         \-----Margred Ferch Madog
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
         |                 |        |                  \-----Susanna Ferch Gruffudd Ap Cynan
         |                 |        |                           \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
         |                  \-----Angharad
         |                          |                           /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
         |                          |                  /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |                          |                 |         \-----Matilda
         |                          |         /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |                          |        |        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
         |                          |        |         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
         |                          |        |                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
         |                           \-----Joan
         |                                   |                  /-----Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
         |                                   |         /-----William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
         |                                   |        |         \-----Margaret PEVERIL
         |                                    \-----Agatha De FERRERS
         |                                            |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
         |                                             \-----Sibyl De BRAOISE
         |                                                      \-----Bertha Of Hereford
 /-----Llywelyn AP OWAIN, Lord Of Gwynnionith And Caerwe
|        |         /-----Owen Ap Meredith, Lord of Cedewen
|         \-----Angharad
|                  \-----Margaret Ferch Maelgon
Thomas AP LLEWELLYN, Lord Of Iscoed Uchirwern
|         /-----Sir Robert De VALE, Lord Of Trefgarn
 \-----(Unk Dau) De VALE



Descendants of Thomas AP LLEWELLYN, Lord Of Iscoed Uchirwern
1. Thomas AP LLEWELLYN, Lord Of Iscoed Uchirwern m. Eleanor GOCH
m. Eleanor GOCH father: Maredudd

2nd generation

2. Margred Ferch Thomas m. Sir Tudor Fychan Ap GRONW
m. Sir Tudor Fychan Ap GRONW father: Gronwy Ap Tudor Hen mother: Gwerful
3. Elen Ferch Thomas m. Gruffyd FYCHAN, Lord Of Glyndyfrdwy
m. Gruffyd FYCHAN, Lord Of Glyndyfrdwy father: Gruffyd O'R Rhuddallt AP MADOG mother: Elizabeth LESTRANGE

3rd generation

4. Maredudd Ap TUDUR FYCHAN m. Margred
m. Margred father: Dafydd Fychan Ap Daffyd Lloyd mother: Neste Ferch Ieuan
5. Lowri FERCH GRUFFYD FYCHAN m. Robert PULESTON
m. Robert PULESTON
6. Twdr AP GRUFFYD FYCHAN m. Maud FERCH IENAF
m. Maud FERCH IENAF father: Ienaf AP ADDA
7. Owain GLYN DWR Ap GRUFFYD m. Mararet HAMMER
m. Mararet HAMMER father: Sir David HAMMER

4th generation

8. Owen Ap Maredudd Ap TUDOR m1. m2. Catherine Of France
m. Catherine Of France father: Charles VI King Of France mother: Isabella Of Bavaria
9. Angharad PULESTON m. Edwart Trevor AP DAFFYD
m. Edwart Trevor AP DAFFYD father: Daffyd AP EDNYFED GAM
10. John PULESTON m. Angharad HANMER
m. Angharad HANMER father: Griffith HANMER
11. Lowri FERCH TWDR m. Gruffyd AP EINION
m. Gruffyd AP EINION father: Einion Ap Gruffyd mother: Tangwystl Ferch Rhydderch Ap Ieuan Llwyd
20. Jonet Ferch Owain m. Sir John CROFT
m. Sir John CROFT father: Sir John CROFT
24. Catherine Ferch Owain m. Sir Edmund MORTIMER
m. Sir Edmund MORTIMER father: Edmund MORTIMER, Earl Of March mother: Philippa PLANTAGENET, Countess Of Ulster

5th generation

26. Sir David OWEN m1. Mary BOHUN m2. Anne BLOUNT m3. Anne DEVEREUX m4.
m. Mary BOHUN father: John BOHUN, Lord Bohun mother: Anne ARDERNE
m. Anne BLOUNT father: Sir William BLOUNT mother: Margaret De ECHYNGHAM
m. Anne DEVEREUX father: John DEVEREUX, Lord Ferrers Of Chartley mother: Cecily BOURCHIER
27. Edmund TUDOR, Earl Of Richmond m. Margaret BEAUFORT
m. Margaret BEAUFORT father: John BEAUFORT, K.G., Duke of Somerset mother: Margaret De BEAUCHAMP
28. Jasper TUDOR, K.G., Duke of Bedford m1. Katherine WYDEVILLE m2.
m. Katherine WYDEVILLE father: Sir Richard WYDVILLE, K.G., Earl of Rivers mother: Jacquetta Of St.Pol
30. Rose TREVOR FERCY EDWART m. Sir Otewell WORSLEY
m. Sir Otewell WORSLEY father: Richard WORSLEY mother: Catherine CLERK
33. Margaret PULESTON m. David Ap EVAN
m. David Ap EVAN father: Evan Ap EINION
34. Elissau AP GRUFFYD m. Margred FERCH JENKYN
m. Margred FERCH JENKYN father: Jenkyn AP IENEN
35. William CROFT m. Margaret WALWYN
m. Margaret WALWYN father: Thomas WALWYN