Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Eadwine Earl Of Mercia
  2. Morkere
  3. Burchard
  4. Aldgyth Birth: Abt 1042 Death: After 1086

Bibliography
  1. Bevan, Rosie, Corrections to K. S. B. Keats-Rohan's Domesday Series, Volume II: Domesday Descendants. Version 7, 25 Sep 2005. Available at http://www.fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan DD++ p[0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 07 Hussee-Lincolnshire. London: St Catherine Press, 1929. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VII [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES II #[0-9]*].
  4. Allen, Kay, Kirk article on Countess Lucy. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/2/1998. Subject: Countess Lucy. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Y3VJR5qVYF0/m/29xrbndv8x4J. Author address: allenk at pacbell dot net. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Kay Allen SGM 10/2/1998-A].
  5. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  6. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol I: Domesday Book. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 1999. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 1. Corrections in Volume II (Domesday Descendants) pp 4-5. Further corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-people-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p[0-9]*].
  7. Kelley, David H, Edwin of Tegeingl, TAG v46 (1970) pp75-80. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Kelley Tegeingl p[0-9]*].
  8. Finton, Ken, Parents of Lucy. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/7/1998. Subject: Which Thorold?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/LIscYfBuQC8/m/FG2hvxWroGIJ. Author address: KHF333 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Ken Finton SGM 10/7/1998].
  9. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  10. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p[0-9]*].
  11. Wagner, Anthony, Pedigree and Progress, Essays in the Genealogical Interpretation of History, London, Philmore, 1975. Rutgers Alex CS4.W33. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #[0-9]*].
  12. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
  13. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
of age 1051 [Ref: Weis AR7 #176A],
parents:
[Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #48, Watney WALLOP #673, Weis AR7 #176A],
father:
[Ref: CP VII p521, Weis AR7 #176]
Sources for death Information
date:
1059 [Ref: Weis AR7 #1B]
abt 1062 [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #48, Watney WALLOP #673]
shortly after 1062 [Ref: Weis AR7 #176A]
Sources with Information about marriage to Aelfgifu
names:
[Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p139, Watney WALLOP #673],
child:
[Ref: Weis AR7 #176A]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Countess Lucy (#10592) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #589, Watney WALLOP #673]
Countess Lucy (#10592) according to forged charter of Peterborough [Ref: Kay Allen SGM 10/2/1998-A]
Edwin of Tegeingl (#25061) [Ref: Kelley Tegeingl p76]
Research Notes:
Earl of Mercia [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p139, Watney WALLOP #673, Weis AR7 #176A, Weis AR7 #1B]
Earl of Anglia [Ref: Watney WALLOP #673, Weis AR7 #176A]

1053: Earl of Anglia [Ref: Watney WALLOP #673, Weis AR7 #176A]

1057: Earl of Mercia [Ref: Watney WALLOP #673, Weis AR7 #176A]

banished 1058 [Ref: Weis AR7 #176A]

possibly father of Countess Lucy, who married Ivo Taillebois, Roger Fitz Gerold, and Randolf III de Meschines, Earl of Chester. Other possibility given is Thorold Sheriff of Lincoln [Ref: CP VII AppJ]

The link between Lucy and Aelfgar is the manor of Spalding, County Lincoln, which was held by Aelfgar before the Conquest and by Lucy's first husband, Ives Taillebois (in her right), at the time of Domesday. Other manors of Thorold which passed to Lucy are Belchford, Scamblesby, Stenigot, Tetney and Donington. (a) Lucy also held Alkborough, (b) which had belonged in the time of the Confessor to William Malet, (c) father of Lucy's uncle Robert Malet. If Lucy's mother was William Malet's daughter, this may have been her maritagium; and the fact that Thorold gave tithes in this place (d) has been advanced as evidence that he was her husband... the only known children of Aelfgar are Edwin, Morcar and Aeldgitha, wife of Harold, and consequently the passing of the manor of Spalding cannot be held to justify the inference that Aelfgar was father of Lucy. [Ref: CP VII AppJ]

The Croyland Charter is dismissed because it is a late or forged charter--not quite contemporary--rewritten by the clergy to justify their possession of lands, as is the case with most forged charters. That does not necessarily mean that the genealogical information is absolutely false, but it does mean "stop, look and listen." Nor does that fact that Lucy was not mentioned as Aelfgar's daughter mean that she was absolutely not his daughter. The only daughter mentioned was Agatha (Aeldgitha) who married Harold II--killed at Hastings and she married a very famous figure. This is neither proof not disproof that Lucy was her sister.
Regarding the confusion about the Lancasters, it seems that the monks were confused and had the wrong information. "To this the monkish chroniclers have added the fiction that he was the son of Ketel, son of Eldred, son of Ivo Taillebois (Mon Angl iii 553 & Cockersands Cartulary, Chethem Soc (New Series) xxxix 305), whereas he was almost, if not quite, contemporary with Ivo." [Ref: Ken Finton SGM 10/7/1998]

Faris has Aelfgar III married to Alvarissa Malet, daughter of William Malet. Though Alfgar died in 1061, before the conquest, this marriage could still be valid. Their daughter, according to this reconstruction, was Lucy. [Ref: Ken Finton SGM 10/7/1998]



Pedigree of Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
                                              /-----Leofric I Earl Of Leicester
                                     /-----Aefgar I Earl Of Leicester
                            /-----Aefgar II Earl Of Leicester
                   /-----Leofric II
          /-----Leofwine Earl Of Mercia
 /-----Leofric Earl Of Mercia
|         \-----Alwara
Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
|         /-----(Unk)
 \-----Gogdifu (Godiva) Of Buckingham, Lady Godiva



Descendants of Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
1. Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia m. Aelfgifu
m. Aelfgifu

2nd generation

5. Aldgyth m1. Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales m2. Harold II Goodwinson, King Of England
m. Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales father: Llewellyn Ap Siesyll, Price Of Gwynedd mother: Angharat OB MAREDUDD
m. Harold II Goodwinson, King Of England father: Godwin Ealdorman Of Wessex mother: Githa

3rd generation

8. Nesta m1. Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle m2. Trahaern Of Arwystil, King Of Gwynedd
m. Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle father: Richard FITZ SCROB mother: (Unk)
m. Trahaern Of Arwystil, King Of Gwynedd father: Caradog

4th generation

11. Nesta m. Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
m. Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon father: Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE mother: Ada
12. Hugh FITZ OSBERN, Baron Of Richard's Castle m. Eustache De SAY
m. Eustache De SAY father: Elias De SAY mother: Egelina

5th generation

14. Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE m. Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
m. Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford father: Walter FITZ ROGER mother: Berthe De BALLON
18. Hugh De SAY, Baron Of Richard's Castle m. Lucy De CLIFFORD
m. Lucy De CLIFFORD father: Walter De CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford mother: Margaret De TOENI