Family:
Marriage:
- Elen on Before 5 Dec 1237 .m1
- Elen
Death: Before 24 Oct 1253
Children:
- Anne De QUINCY Death: After 1257
- Joan De QUINCY Birth: Abt 1245
Death: 25 Nov 1283
- Hawise De QUINCY Birth: Abt 1250
Death: Abt 27 Mar 1285
Bibliography
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 03 Canonteigh-Cutts. London: St Catherine Press, 1913. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 3 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo03coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP III [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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MacEwen, Andrew B W, Elen, Countess of Chester: A Daughter of Joan, Princess of North Wales, The Genealogist 4,2 (Fall 1983) p137-8. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: MacEwen Elen].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- before 1200 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p302]
- third son [Ref: Weis AR7 #236, Weis MC #114]
- younger brother, second Robert [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e)]
- younger son [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site)]
- younger son, born before 1200 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p84]
- youngest son [Ref: CP III p170],
- parents:
- [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e), Clutterbuck Hertford v3p287, ES III.4 #708,
Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site), Reitwiesner Joan p84,
Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p438, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p302, Watney WALLOP #821],
- father:
- [Ref: CP III p170, Weis AR7 #236, Weis MC #114]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: CP III p170, ES III.4 #708, Reitwiesner Joan p84, Richardson
RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302, Watney WALLOP #613, Watney WALLOP
#821]
- 1257 [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e), Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon
web site), Redlich CharlemagneDesc p129, Watney WALLOP #230, Weis MC #107],
- place:
- [Ref: Weis MC #107]
- tournament at Blie [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson
RoyalAnc v5p302]
Sources with Information about marriage to Elen
- date:
- 1222 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #613, Watney WALLOP #821]
- after 1237 [Ref: Reitwiesner Joan p84]
- after 7 Jun and before 22 Nov 1237 [Ref: MacEwen Elen]
- before 5 Dec 1237 [Ref: CP III p170, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302]
- second marriage of Helen [Ref: CP XII/2 p751(e), Clutterbuck Hertford
v3p287, Weis AR7 #236]
- vor 5.XII 1237 [Ref: ES III.4 #708],
- names:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p443],
- child:
- [Ref: CP VI p463(f), CP VI p463, CP XII/2 p300, Clutterbuck Hertford
v3p287, Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site), Reitwiesner Joan
p84, Richardson PA p120, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225, Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p415, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p287, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302, Watney WALLOP
#821, Weis AR7 #184A, Weis AR7 #236, Weis MC #114]
Research Notes:
Lord of Ware [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p75, Reitwiesner Joan p84]
Knt, of Wakes Colne, Essex, Ware, Hertfordshire, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p287]
of Wakes Colne, Essex, Broom and Stokeley, Bedfordshire, Ware,
Hertfordshire, Winterbourne Stoke, Wiltshire, and in right of his wife of
Fotheringhay and Yarwell, Northamptonshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p225,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p302]
of Colne Quincy [Ref: Watney WALLOP #613, Watney WALLOP #821]
Knt, of Wakes Colne, Essex, Broom and Stokeley, Bedfordshire, Ware,
Hertfordshire, Winterbourne Stoke, Wiltshire, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v4p443]
Knt [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p438]
second son named Robert [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p443]
second son named Robert; first d.s.p. 1217 [Ref: Weis AR7 #236]
d.s.p.m [Ref: CP III p170, CP XII/2 p751(e)]
Pedigree of Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware
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Saher De QUINCEY, Lord Of Buckby In Northampto
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Robert De QUINCEY
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Ranulph Le Rich
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Simon De St. LIZ, Earl Of Huntingdon
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Maud De ST LIZ
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Ulsius
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Beorn
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Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
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Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
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Uchtred Earl Of Northumberland
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Ealdred Of Bernicia
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Ecfrida
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Aelflaed
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Maud Of Huntingdon
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Baldwin Count Of Boulogne
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Eustace I Count Of Boulogne
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Adela Of Holland
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Lambert Of Boulogne, Count Of Lens
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Lambert I The Bearded Count Of Louvain
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Maud Of Louvain
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Gerberga Of Lorraine
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Judith Of Lens
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Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
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Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
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Judith Of Brittany
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Adelaide Of Normandy
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Fulbert Of Falaise
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Herleve Of Falaise
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Duxia
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Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret
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William Lord Of Leuchars
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Ness Of Leuchars
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Orabella
Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware
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Torf The Rich
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Thorold Seigeur Of Pont-Audemer
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Etemberga De Briquebec
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Humphrey De Vieilles
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Aveline
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Roger De Beaumont
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Aubreye De La Haie
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Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Galeran II Count Of Meulen
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Hugo I Count Of Meulen
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Waleran Count Of Meulan
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Walter II Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin
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Oda Of Valois
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Adele
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Adelise Of Meulan
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Ode
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Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Hugh Capet King Of France
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Robert II The Pious King Of France
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Adelaide Of Poitou
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Henry I King Of France
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William I Count Of Aries And Provence
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Constance Of Provence
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Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
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Saint Vladimir Grand Prince Of Kiev
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Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
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Rogneide Of Polotzk
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Anne Of Kiev
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Olaf III SKOTKONUNG, King Of Sweden
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Ingegard
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Astrid
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Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
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Herbert III Count Of Vermandois
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Eudes Count Of Vermandois
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Ermengarde Of Bar
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Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
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Parvie
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Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
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Raoul II Seigneur Of Crepy And Valois
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Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin
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Adelaide Of Bretemil
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Adela De Valois
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Nocher III Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
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Adela
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Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester
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Ralph De Gael, Earl Of Norfolk
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Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
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Getha
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Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
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Herfast
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Osbern De Crepon, Steward Of Normandy
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William Fitz Osbern, Earl Of Hereford
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Ralph Count Of Ivry
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Emma Abbess Of St. Amand
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Albereda
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Emma Fitz Osbern
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Ralph II De TOENI, Seigneur Of Tonsi And Conches
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Roger I De TOENI
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Adelise De TONI
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Godehildie
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Amicia De Gael
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Margaret BEAUMONT
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Robert De Grentmesnil
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Girole De Echafour
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Hawise De Echafour
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Thursten De Bastenburgh
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Gisela De Bastenburgh
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Robert De GRANTMESNIL
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Ivo Count Of Belemontensis
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Ivo I Count Of Beaumont
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Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
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Emma
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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Judith
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William De GRANTMESNIL
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(Unk) De Estouteville
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Robert De Estouteville
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Emma De Estouteville
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Beatrix
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Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL
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