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  • Name: Sir John De BREWES
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 1357 b
  • Death: 29 Sep 1426 d
  • Burial: Wiston, Sussex u


  • Parents:
  • Father:
  • Sir Piers De BREUSE Birth: Abt 1312 Death: Abt 4 Oct 1378
  • Mother:
  • Joan HOWARD Death: 3 Jan 1369/70 in Chesham Bois, Buckinghamshire

Family:
Marriage:
Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Craig, F N, Whose son was Peter de Braose, NEHGR v150 (Jul 1996). pp315-24. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Craig Braose p[0-9]*].
  4. Craig, F N, Maternal Ancestry of Governor Thomas Dudley - Purefoy, Ayot, and Denton, NEHGR v142 (Jul 1988) pp227-244. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Craig Dudley-Purefoy p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Margaret Poynings, wife of John Brewes and Thomas Wykeham. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/27/2011. Subject: C.P. Addition: Margaret Poynings, wife of John Brewes, Knt., and Thomas Wykeham, Knt.. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/BHkpe06Yuhk/m/oguE8iwXfQkJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/27/2011-171851].
  6. Roskell, J S, History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386-1421. Wolfboro Falls, NH: Alan Sutton, 1992. NYPL JFE 95-5018. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v[1-4]p[0-9]*].
  7. Mackenzie, P W, Maternity of John and Beatrix de BREWES. Unpublished manuscript, c2009. Available at http://douglyn.co.uk/BraoseWeb/family/Joan Brewes.pdf. Also available via wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/20110629104148/http://freespace.virgin.net/doug.thompson/BraoseWeb/family/articles.html Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Mackenzie BeatrixBrewes].
  8. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2005. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson MCA p[0-9]*].
  9. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
  10. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
  11. Stratton, Eugene, The Evidence that Sir Richard de Braose who married Alice le Rus was the son of John and Margaret (Verch Llywelyn) de Braose, The Genealogist 6,1 (1985) pp85-99. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Stratton RichardBraose p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1357 [Ref: Mackenzie BeatrixBrewes],
parents:
[Ref: Mackenzie BeatrixBrewes, Richardson MCA p816, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147],
father:
[Ref: CP IX p471, HoP 1386-1421 v4p364, Stratton RichardBraose p92]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Sir Piers de BREWES (#151646) & Joan de PERCY (#165113) [Ref: Craig Braose p324, Craig Dudley-Purefoy p242],
mother:
Joan WEEDON [Ref: Stratton RichardBraose p92]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/27/2011-171851, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]
1426 [Ref: Craig Braose p324, HoP 1386-1421 v4p364, Richardson MCA p816]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/27/2011-171851, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]
Sources with Information about marriage to Margaret De NERFORD
date:
before 1375 [Ref: Richardson MCA p816, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]
first marriage of John [Ref: Craig Braose p324]
in or before 1375 [Ref: CP IX p471],
divorced:
appealed for divorce in 1378, divorced shortly before 1383 [Ref: Richardson MCA p816, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147],
names:
[Ref: Stratton RichardBraose p92]
Sources with Information about marriage to Margaret De PONYNGES
date:
first marriage of Margaret [Ref: CP XI p329(h), Douglas Richardson SGM 10/27/2011-171851, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p324]
second marriage of John, first of Margaret [Ref: Craig Braose p324, Richardson MCA p816, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]
Research Notes:
Knt, of Chesham Bois and Wedon Hill (in Amersham), Buckinghamshire, Wiston, Ashurst, Chillington, Heen, Slaughter, and Iringham, Sussex, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]
Knt, of Chesham Bois and Wedon Hill (in Amersham), Buckinghamshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p324]
Knt, of Chesham Bois and Wedon Hill (in Amersham), Buckinghamshire, Wiston, Ashurst, Chillington, Heen, Slaughter and Iringham, Sussex [Ref: Richardson MCA p816]
of Wiston, Sussex, Chesham Bois Buckinghamshire, etc [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/27/2011-171851]

heir of his father [Ref: Richardson MCA p816, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p147]

of full age when he entered the manor of Wiston at the death of his father in 1378, so born on or before 1357. It is proposed he was the son of the second wife of Piers. Specifically, we can exclude Joan Percy as his mother, as there is no evidence he laid claim to her estates, as he would be entitled to if he were her son. [Ref: Mackenzie BeatrixBrewes]



Pedigree of Sir John De BREWES
                                                                /-----Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                                                       /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                                                      |         \-----Aenor De TOTENEIS
                                              /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                                             |        |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
                                             |         \-----Bertha Of Hereford
                                             |                  \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
                                     /-----William De BRAOSE, Lord Of Gower
                                    |        |                  /-----Reginald De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
                                    |        |         /-----Bernard De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
                                    |         \-----Matilda De ST VALERIE De HAIA
                                    |                  \-----Matilda
                            /-----John De BRAOSE, Baron Of Bramber
                           |        |                           /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
                           |        |                  /-----Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford
                           |        |                 |         \-----Adeliza Le MESCHIN
                           |        |         /-----Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford, MC Surety
                           |        |        |        |         /-----James De St HILARY, Baron Of Field Dalling
                           |        |        |         \-----Maud St. HILLARY
                           |        |        |                  \-----Aveline
                           |         \-----Matilda DE CLARE
                           |                 |                  /-----Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
                           |                 |         /-----William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester
                           |                 |        |         \-----Maud FITZ HAMOND
                           |                  \-----Amice MEULANT, Countess Of Gloucester
                           |                          |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
                           |                           \-----Hawise DeBEAUMONT
                           |                                    \-----Amicia De Gael
                   /-----William De BREUSE, Lord Breuse
                  |        |                                    /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
                  |        |                           /-----Owain Gwynedd Prince Of Gwynedd
                  |        |                          |         \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
                  |        |                  /-----Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Llywarch
                  |        |                 |         \-----Gladys Ferch Llywarch
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Dyddgu Of Builth
                  |        |         /-----Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Maredudd Ap Bleddyn
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Hunydd Ferch Einudd
                  |        |        |         \-----Margred Ferch Madog
                  |        |        |                 |         /-----Gruffydd Ap Cynan, Prince Of Gwynedd
                  |        |        |                  \-----Susanna Ferch Gruffudd Ap Cynan
                  |        |        |                           \-----Angharat Of Tegaingl
                  |         \-----Margaret Of Wales
                  |                 |                           /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
                  |                 |                  /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Matilda
                  |                 |         /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
                  |                 |        |         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
                  |                  \-----Joan
                  |                          |                  /-----Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
                  |                          |         /-----William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
                  |                          |        |         \-----Margaret PEVERIL
                  |                           \-----Agatha De FERRERS
                  |                                   |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
                  |                                    \-----Sibyl De BRAOISE
                  |                                             \-----Bertha Of Hereford
          /-----Sir Piers De BREUSE
         |        |                                             /-----Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
         |        |                                    /-----Everhard De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
         |        |                                   |         \-----Sibyl De VALOGNES
         |        |                           /-----Robert De ROS, Magna Charta Surety
         |        |                          |        |         /-----William TRUSSEBUT, Baron Of Hunsingore
         |        |                          |         \-----Roysia TRUSSEBUT
         |        |                          |                  \-----Audrey De HARCOURT
         |        |                  /-----Sir William De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
         |        |                 |        |                  /-----Henry Of Huntingdon, Earl Of Huntingdon
         |        |                 |        |         /-----William The Lion King Of Scots
         |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Ada De WARENNE
         |        |                 |         \-----Isabel Of Scotland
         |        |                 |                 |         /-----Robert AVENAL
         |        |                 |                  \-----Isabel AVERNAL
         |        |                 |                           \-----Sibyl
         |        |         /-----Sir Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Herbert FITZ HERBERT
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Herbert FITZ HERBERT
         |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Sibyl CORBET
         |        |        |        |         /-----Piers FITZ HERBERT
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Lucy Of Hereford
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
         |        |        |         \-----Lucia FITZ PIERS
         |        |        |                 |                  /-----Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
         |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert FITZ ROGER, Baron Of Whalton
         |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Alice De VERE
         |        |        |                  \-----Alice De WARKWORTH
         |        |        |                          |         /-----William De CHESNEY
         |        |        |                           \-----Margery De CHESNEY, Lady Of Horsford
         |        |        |                                    \-----Gilla
         |         \-----Mary De ROS
         |                 |                                    /-----William D'ALBINI, Lord Of Belvoir
         |                 |                           /-----William II Le Breton D'ALBINI, Lord Of Belvoir
         |                 |                          |         \-----Cecily De BELVOIR
         |                 |                  /-----William D'ALBINI, Lord Of Belvoir, MC Surety
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Robert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Little Dunmow
         |                 |                 |         \-----Maud FITZ ROBERT
         |                 |                 |                  \-----Maud De ST LIZ
         |                 |         /-----William D'ALBINI, Baron Of Belvoir
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Odinel De UMFRAVILLE, Baron Of Prudhoe
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Odinel De UMFRAVILLE, Baron Of Prudhoe
         |                 |        |         \-----Margery De UMFRAVILLE
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Sir Richard De LUCY, Justiciar Of England
         |                 |        |                  \-----Alice De LUCY
         |                 |        |                           \-----Rohese
         |                  \-----Isabel D'ALBINI
         |                           \-----Isabel
 /-----Sir Piers De BREUSE
|         \-----Agnes De CLIFFORD
Sir John De BREWES
|                                             /-----Robert HOWARD
|                                    /-----John HOWARD
|                           /-----Sir William HOWARD
|                          |         \-----Lucy
|                  /-----Sir John HOWARD
|                 |        |         /-----Sir Edmund FITTON
|                 |         \-----Alice FITTON
|                 |                  \-----Gillia
|         /-----Sir John HOWARD
|        |        |                                             /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
|        |        |                                    /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Matilda
|        |        |                           /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |                          |         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
|        |        |                  /-----Richard Earl Of Cornwall, Holy Roman Emperor
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----William Guillaume IV Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Marguerite De Turenne
|        |        |                 |         \-----Isabel Of Angouleme
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Peter Of France, Lord Of Courteney
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Alice De Courtenay
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Elizabeth De Courtenay
|        |        |         /-----Richard De CORNWALL
|        |        |        |         \-----Joan
|        |         \-----Joan De CORNWALL
|        |                 |                                    /-----William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry
|        |                 |                           /-----William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Isabel De SAY
|        |                 |                  /-----John FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Hugh De LACY, Baron Of Weobley
|        |                 |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) De LACY
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Roheis De MONMOUTH
|        |                 |         /-----Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Sussex And Arundel
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Arundel
|        |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Maud St. HILLARY
|        |                 |        |         \-----Isabel D'AUBIGNY
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Mabel Of Chester
|        |                 |        |                           \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
|        |                  \-----Joan FITZ ALAN
|        |                          |                           /-----Harvey WALTER
|        |                          |                  /-----Theobald WALTER
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Maud De VALOINES
|        |                          |         /-----Theobald Le BOTELER
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert VAVASOUR
|        |                          |        |         \-----Maud VAVASOUR
|        |                          |        |                  \-----(Unk) De BIRKIN
|        |                           \-----Maud De VERDUN
|        |                                   |                  /-----Bertram De VERDUN
|        |                                   |         /-----Nicholas De VERDUN
|        |                                   |        |         \-----Matilda FERRERS
|        |                                    \-----Rohese De VERDUN
|        |                                             \-----Clemence
 \-----Joan HOWARD
         |         /-----Sir Robert De BOYS
          \-----Alice De BOYS
                  |         /-----Sir William Le LATIMER
                   \-----Christian Le LATIMER



Descendants of Sir John De BREWES
1. Sir John De BREWES m1. Margaret De NERFORD m2. Margaret De PONYNGES
m. Margaret De NERFORD father: John De NERFORD mother: Agnes
m. Margaret De PONYNGES father: Thomas POYNINGS, Lord St John, Lord Poynings mother: Joan Le STRANGE