Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Adelaide
- Adele Countess Of Vendome Birth: Abt 995
Death: 26 Feb Abt 1033
Marriage:
Children:
- Geoffrey II Martel Count Of Anjou Birth: 14 Oct 1006
Death: 14 Nov 1066
- Ermengarde Of Anjou Birth: Abt 1010
Death: 18 Mar 1076 in Fleurey-Sur-Ouche
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- 965/70 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p4]
- 965x70 would be a reasonable estimate [Ref: HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006]
- abt 965/970 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5]
- abt 970 [Ref: Settipani Anjou p265],
- parents:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, HenryII adele001 4/24/2008, HenryII
fulk0003 5/11/2006, HenryII geoff001 4/24/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p4, Paget
HRHCharles p139, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p485, Settipani Anjou p265, Settipani
LGA p6, Todd Farmerie SGM 5/22/1997-010102, Watney WALLOP #9, Weis AR7 #118],
- father:
- [Ref: Tapsell Dynasties p203]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, ES III.4 #723A, HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006,
Moriarty Plantagenet p4, Watney WALLOP #9, Weis AR7 #118]
- 1040 [Ref: HenryII ermen001 5/11/2006, HenryII geoff001 4/24/2008,
Settipani Anjou p265, Tapsell Dynasties p203]
- 21.VI oder 22.V 1040 [Ref: ES III.1 #116]
- 22 May 1040 [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p140],
- place:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #723A, HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006, Moriarty Plantagenet
p4]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #723A]
Sources with Information about marriage to Elizabeth Of Vermandois
- date:
- abt 985 first marriage of Fulk III [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p4]
- abt 985, before Oct 989 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5]
- first marriage of Fulk [Ref: HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006, Paget
HRHCharles p140]
- vor 990 [Ref: ES III.4 #723A],
- names:
- [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p266, Paget HRHCharles p139],
- child:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, ES III.1 #116, HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006,
Paget HRHCharles p140, Settipani Anjou p265]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hildegarde Of Metz
- date:
- abt 1000 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p4]
- after 1000 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, Weis AR7 #118]
- second marriage of Fulk [Ref: ES III.1 #116, Paget HRHCharles p140],
- child:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, ES II #20, HenryII ermen001 5/11/2006,
HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006, Moriarty Plantagenet p4, Paget HRHCharles p140,
Settipani Anjou p265, Watney WALLOP #9, Weis AR7 #118]
Research Notes:
Count of Anjou [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5, HenryII ermen001 5/11/2006, HenryII
fulk0003 5/11/2006, HenryII geoff001 4/24/2008, Paget HRHCharles p60,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p485, Tapsell Dynasties p203, Weis AR7 #118]
987: Count of Anjou [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p5]
987-1040: Count of Anjou [Ref: HenryII fulk0003 5/11/2006, Tapsell Dynasties
p203]
I have to report another problem with Bachrach's
_Fulk_Nerra_..._the_Angevin_Count_ (1993):
Bachrach (pp 8-12, 23) builds a significant part of his representation of
Fulk Nerra's political 'background' unproblematically on the proposition that
his mother (as Geoffrey Grisegonelle's 1st wife) is "Adelaide of Vermandois",
daughter of "Count Herbert" - i.e. Herbert II - of Vermandois. (I note that
this Adelaide is commonly given as w. of Arnoul I, comte de Flandres, though
that of course doesn't exclude the possibility of another, Anjou marriage.)
Significantly, as we'll see, he gives as Geoffrey Grisegonelle's 2d wife
"Adele de Chalon".
On the other hand, most modern genealogies give as the Vermandois descendant
who is Geoffrey Grisegonelle's wife the niece of the Adelaide above, viz.
"Adela" da. of Robert, Count of Meaux & Troyes, son of Herbert II de
Vermandois. Cf. e.g. MCKITTERICK (1983), RICHE (1983) and WEIS (1992).
It's true that as early as Dantine et al. (_L'Art_de_verifier...._ [II,1784,
833]), it's been argued that the 'Adelaide' who is mo. of Foulques Nerra must
be an earlier Adelaide, parents unknown, on chronological grounds. (By this
reckoning only 2 children, Maurice and Gerberge, would be ch. of Adelaide 'de
Vermandois' &/or 'de Chalon'.) In fact, it's not obvious that this individual
should be called "de Vermandois" at all, if she is indeed da. not of Herbert
II de Vermandois but of comte de Meaux and "veuve de Lambert, Comte de
Chalon-sur-Saone" (L'Art...II, 833), though it's of course possible,
particularly given the well-known ancestral self-consciousness of the Anjou
line. Nevertheless even TURTON (6, 80) (based here on Latrie) gives her as
"Adelaide de Chalon" with the descent shown by MCKITTERICK, RICHE and WEIS and
with evidently more nous than Weis. [Ref: Cristopher Nash SGM 6/7/1998]
Pedigree of Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
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Torgulf
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Tertellus Senmarchal Of The Gatinais
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Ingelger Count Of Anjou
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Petronel
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Fulk Le Roux Count Of Anjou
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Geoffrey Count Of The Gatinais
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Adela Of The Gatinais
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(Unk) Lord Of Amboise
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(Unk)
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Lambert Count Of Nantes
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Warner Count
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(Unk Dau)
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(Unk)
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Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
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(Unk)
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Grimihild
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Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou
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Gui Count Of The Breton Marches
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Lambert Count Of Nantes
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Warner Count
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Karlman (Pepin) King Of Italy And Bavaria
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(Unk Dau)
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Therres
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Adalard Seigneur De Loches, Lahaye, Villentrois
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Girard Count Of Paris
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Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
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Rotrude
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(Unk)
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Grimihild
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Werner Seigneur De Locher Villandry And La Stai
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Roscilla
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Forcanda
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Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
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Gauzelin
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Rorick Count Of Maine
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Humbert I Count Of Bourges
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Aldatrude
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Gausfred Count Of Maine
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Bilihild
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Gausfred
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hadrian Lord In The Worms
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Emma
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Eudes Count Of Orleans
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Adalelmus
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Waldast
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(Unk Dau) Of Orleans
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Girard Count Of Paris
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Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
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Rotrude
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Engeltrude
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Grimihild
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Gausfred Count Of Nevers
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Gerberga Of Nevers
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Hector Noble Of Arverne
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Aba
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania
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Auda
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Bernard Marquis Of Septimania
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Lambert Lord Of Hornbach
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Guibour
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Bernard Plantevalus Count Of Autun, Marquis Of Toulouse
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Loup Duke Of The Gascons
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Sancho Loup Duke Of The Gascons
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(Unk Dau) Of Asturias
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Dhunde Of Gascony
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Galindo Count
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(Unk) Galindez
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Aba Abbess Of Sauxillanges
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Warin Count Of Chalon
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Bernard Count Of Auvergne
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Theudoin Count Of Autun
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Aude
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Ermengard
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Lieugardis
Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
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Charlemagne King Of France
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Karlman (Pepin) King Of Italy And Bavaria
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Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
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Bernard King Of Italy
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Bernard Duke, Abbot Of Saint Quentin
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Therres
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(Unk Dau) Of Laon
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Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin
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Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania
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Caribert
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Kunigunde
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Cunigunde
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Herbert I Count Of Vermandois
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Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye
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Niebelung III Count Of Burgundy
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Bertha
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Theoderic Count Of Vermandois
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(Unk Dau) Of Vermandois
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Herbert II Count Of Vermandois
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Guerra I Count Of Morvois
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Beatrice Of Morvois
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Eve Of Roussillon
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Robert Count Of Troyes
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Turincbertus
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Rupert II Count In Wormgau
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Guiguin Rupert III Count In Wormgau
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Theoderata
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Rupert IV The Strong Count Of Tours
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hadrian Lord In The Worms
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Emma
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Wialdruth
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Adalelmus
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Waldast
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Robert I King Of France
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Luitfriede I Duke Of Alsace
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Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
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Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
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Hiltrude
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Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
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Ava
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Hildebrante/Liegarde/Adela
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Aelis
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Adele Of Troyes
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Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye
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Childebrand III Lord Of Perrency
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Bertha
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Thierry The Treasurer Count Of The Autonois
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Thiery Count In Riparia
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Dunna
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Thierry II Count In The Chamois
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Manasses I Count Of Vergy, Duxin, And Chalons
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Richard Count Of Rouen
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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(Unk Dau)
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Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Giselbert Duke Of Burgandy
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Richard Count Of Rouen
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Boso Of Vienne, King Of Provence
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Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
| | | | \-----
Richilda
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Ermengarde
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Ermengarde Of Burgandy
Descendants of Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
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