Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Agnes Of Mortain Death: After 1120
- Denise Of Mortain Death: 1090
- Sibylle Of Mortain
- Emma De MORTAIN Birth: Abt 1065
Death: 21 Aug 1112
- William De MORTAIN, Count Of Mortain, Earl Of Co Birth: Before 1084
Death: After 1140 in Bermondery
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- abt 1049 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p278]
- second daughter [Ref: CP XI p687(d)],
- parents:
- [Ref: CP III p428 (with corr in XIV p207), CP XI p687(d), Keats-Rohan
DD p309, Keats-Rohan DD p598, Keats-Rohan DP p372, Keats-Rohan DP p399,
Moriarty Plantagenet p45, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p160, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p490, Thompson Montgomerys p259, Watney WALLOP #696, Weis AR7 #185],
- father:
- [Ref: Foss Judges p561, Moriarty Plantagenet p44, Paget HRHCharles
p61, Watney WALLOP #708],
- name:
- Matilda [Ref: Thompson Montgomerys p259]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: Peter Stewart SGM 9/30/2011-183436, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p160,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p490]
- (1085) [Ref: ES III.4 #637, ES III.4 #694B]
- abt 1084 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p278]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: CP III p428, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p160, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p490]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
- date:
- abt 1065 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p278]
- abt 1066 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p160]
- before 1066 [Ref: CP III p427, Moriarty Plantagenet p44, Moriarty
Plantagenet p45, Paget HRHCharles p61, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p490]
- first mariage of Robert [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p372]
- vor 1066 [Ref: ES III.4 #637, ES III.4 #694B],
- names:
- [Ref: CP XI p687(d), Keats-Rohan DD p309, Keats-Rohan DD p598,
Keats-Rohan DP p399, Thompson Montgomerys p259, Watney WALLOP #696]
- Robert de Mortain & dau Roger de Montgomery [Ref: Searle
PredatoryKinship p257],
- child:
- [Ref: CP III p428, DeVajay Aragon p273, ES III.4 #694B, Foss Judges
p561, Keats-Rohan DP p372, Moriarty Plantagenet p44, Paget HRHCharles p61,
Richardson RoyalAnc v1p126, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p160, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p490, Watney WALLOP #708, Weis AR7 #185]
Research Notes:
Extracts from the 12th-century & later obituary of Durham cathedral in which
this entry occurs were printed in a rather less "obscure" book than Rud's
catalogue of Durham cathedral manuscripts - see _Liber vitae ecclesiae
Dunelmensis nec non obituaria duo ejusdem ecclesiae_ edited by Joseph
Stevenson for the Surtees Society (London, 1841), page 140.
The source is discussed by Michael Gullick in 'The Scribes of the Durham
Cantor's Book ... and the Durham Martyrology Scribe' in _Anglo-Norman Durham_,
edited by David Rollason & others (Woodbridge, 1994) 93-110.
The "pancarte of Grestain" in question, a charter of William I, is known
only from 17th and 18th century copies and in some respects contradicts a
confirmation by Richard I of the same & later gifts to Grestain, dated 1189,
which says that Mathilde herself gave property she had been given by her
father Roger de Montgomery ("Ex dono Mathildis, comitisse Moreton. ... xxxii
hidas terrae quae dederat ei pater suus Rogerus de Monte Gomerico") rather
than that he gave the same after her death ("Rogerius comes de Monegomerico
dedit in Anglia Mathildi sue filie comitisse Moritoniensi triginta et duas
hydrias terre ... Post mortem vero eius dedit supradictus comes Domino et
sancte Marie Grestensi easdem trigenta et duas hydrias").
The year 1082 quoted above from the assertion of one secondary source
citing another is somewhat misleading: dates are not given for specific
donations and, since the document of William I might have been written as
early as 24 June 1082, if Mathilde died on a 21 September for all this proves
it might have been in 1081 or before.
The pancarte of William I was issued before the arrest of his half-brother
Odo, bishop of Bayeux who subscribed it. Bates & Gazeau in their 1990 article
assumed that Odo was arrested in the autumn of 1082, but this is not certain
as it could have taken place early in the winter of 1082/83.
This makes little difference to the point at issue, since my earlier post
was misleading and as it turns out the terminus post quem of 24 June 1082 is
actually the last date on which Countess Mathilde of Mortain, who had died
before her father's donation recorded in the pancarte, is known to have been
living. On this date she subscribed another charter of William I, confirming
donations of Robert and herself to Marmoutier ("Rotbertus frater eius
[Willelmi] comes Morethoniensis et Mathildis uxor eius dederunt Deo et sancto
Martino Maioris Monasterii ... S. Rotberti comitis Moritonii. S. Mathildis
comitisse ... Anno ab incarnatione Domini MLXXXII ... Hec carta apud Oscellum
firmata fuit die Natalis sancti Baptiste Johannis.")
Consequently, from the available evidence, she died on 21 September 1082.
[Ref: Peter Stewart SGM 9/30/2011-183436]
Pedigree of Maud De Montgomery
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Hugh De Montgomery
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Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
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Josceline
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Senfrie
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Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
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Emma
Maud De Montgomery
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Yves De BELLEME, Seigneur De Belleme
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Guilleume Lord of Belleme
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(Unk)
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Godehaut
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William I Count Of Alencon And Bellasme
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Mathilda Dame De Conde-Sur-Noireau
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William II TALVAS
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Mathilde
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Mabel De Belesme
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Arnulf
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Hildeburg
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