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Marriage: Children:
  1. Margaret De MONTHERMER, Baroness Monthermer Birth: 14 Oct 1329 in Stokenham, Devon Death: 24 Mar 1394/5

Bibliography
  1. Verity, Brad, Thomas de Monthermer, son and heir of Ralph de Monthermer. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/16/2019. Subject: C.P. Addition: Sir Thomas de Monthermer [died 1340], son and heir of Ralph de Monthermer, sometime Earl of Gloucester & Hertford [died 1325]. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/xO-d3160HR8/m/g33-gHcwAwAJ. Author address: royaldescent at hotmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 7/16/2019-005522].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
[Ref: Brad Verity SGM 7/16/2019-005522, CP IX p143, Faris PA2 p242, John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
1301 [Ref: Weis AR7 #8A]
elder son [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/14/2019-142652],
parents:
[Ref: Brad Verity SGM 7/16/2019-005522, CP IX p143, Douglas Richardson SGM 7/14/2019-142652, Faris PA2 p242, Faris PA2 p84, John Ravilious SGM 12/18/2005-192519, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113, Roberts RD600 p326, Weis AR7 #8A]
Sources for baptism Information
date:
[Ref: Brad Verity SGM 7/16/2019-005522, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: CP IX p143, Faris PA2 p243, John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
1340 [Ref: CP XI p391, Weis AR7 #8A],
place:
[Ref: CP IX p143, Faris PA2 p243, John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
at Battle of Slays [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205]
Sources with Information about marriage to Margaret De BRAOSE
date:
after 23 Jul 1326 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
after Mar 1322 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934]
by 1330 [Ref: CP++ Monthermer 12/31/2006 (CP IX p5143), CP++ Tyeys 5/3/2004 (CP XII/2 p104)]
second marriage of Margaret [Ref: CP IX p143, Douglas Richardson SGM 2/12/2017-110651, Faris PA2 p242, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p145, Weis AR7 #8A],
names:
Thomas MONTHERMER & Margaret ___ [Ref: Faris PA2 p242, Faris PA2 p84, Roberts RD600 p326],
child:
[Ref: CP IX p143, Faris PA2 p243, John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p118, Roberts RD600 p326, Weis AR7 #8A]
Research Notes:
2nd Lord Monthermer, of Barony cr 1309 [Ref: CP IX p143]
2nd Lord Monthermer [Ref: Faris PA2 p242, John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p118, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p145, Roberts RD600 p326, Weis AR7 #8A]

Knt, of Stokenham, Oakford Stette, amd Pyworthy, Devon, Warblington, Hampshire, Erlestoke, Wiltshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]
Knt, of Stokeham, Devon [Ref: Faris PA2 p242]

heir of his father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p205, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]

presumably son and heir, and if so, Lord Monthermer, but not summoned to Parliament [Ref: CP IX p143]

not summoned to Parliament [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934]

July 4 1325: he and his brother Edward made an agreement as to certain manors in which both had an interest; Thomas was to have Stokenham and Edward Warblington, &c., and on 11 July Thomas granted Edward a rent of € 20 from Stokenham. (CP IX:143, and note (c), citing Cal. Close Rolls, 1323-27, p. 492) [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934]

1340: heir to his younger brother Edward; inherited the manors of Lantyan, Cornwall, Hunton (in Crawley), Hampshire, and Erlestoke, Wiltshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p113]

heir of his brother Edward [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934]

slain at the battle of Sluys [Ref: Weis AR7 #8A]

[on the order of birth of the two sons] except there is this: On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 1:36:35 PM UTC-7, Peter Howarth wrote:
> To add to the mixture - The elder son of Ralph de Monthermer would have borne his father's arms: 'vert, an eagle displayed or'. The younger son's arms were: vert, an eagle displayed or, a border gules semy of lions passant guardant or'; the border represents his mother's arms. Thomas given younger son's arms: William Jenyns' Ordinary (c.1360-80) WJ 417.
And this: On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 7:01:41 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart wrote:
> Given the status of Ralph's father compared to Joan's, it seems unlikely to me that their elder son would have been named after his father rather than hers.
Thomas Monthermer was named for St Thomas Becket (as was Thomas of Brotherton, born the prior year). The fact that Joan of Acre chose this name, and not 'Edward', for him, is certainly indication of the high regard Joan, herself granddaughter of a saint, held the onetime Archbishop of Canterbury.
In turn, the fact that Thomas Monthermer incorporated his mother's arms into his father's coat, indicates the high regard in which she was held by him, as well the family's desire to memorialize the lady who created the Monthermer dynasty.
It's a nice example of how symbolism within heraldry and naming, often overlooked by historians, can reveal small but significant clues to the personalties of these medieval figures. [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 7/16/2019-005522]



Pedigree of Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer
 /-----Ralph De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer
Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer
|                                                               /-----Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou
|                                                      /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
|                                                     |         \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
|                                             /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
|                                            |        |         /-----Helias Count Of Maine
|                                            |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
|                                            |                  \-----Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
|                                    /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|                                   |        |                  /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
|                                   |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
|                                   |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
|                                   |         \-----Matilda
|                                   |                 |         /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
|                                   |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
|                                   |                           \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
|                           /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|                          |        |                           /-----William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou
|                          |        |                  /-----William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Burgundy
|                          |        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----William IV Count Of Toulouse
|                          |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Toulouse
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Emma De MORTAIN
|                          |         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
|                          |                 |                  /-----Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
|                          |                 |         /-----Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
|                          |                 |        |         \-----Eleanor De THOUARS
|                          |                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
|                          |                          |         /-----Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
|                          |                           \-----Dangerose
|                          |                                    \-----Gerberga
|                  /-----Henry III King Of England
|                 |        |                                    /-----Guillaume III Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|                 |        |                           /-----Wulgrim II Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Vitapol De Benauges
|                 |        |                  /-----William Guillaume IV Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Ponse De Montgomery
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Almodis Countess Of La Marche
|                 |        |         /-----Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Boso I Vicount Of Turenne
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Raymond I Vicount Of Turenne
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Gerberga Comtoresse De Terasson
|                 |        |        |         \-----Marguerite De Turenne
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----Geoffrey II De Perche, Count Of Perche
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Maude De Perche
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Beatrix De Montdidier
|                 |         \-----Isabel Of Angouleme
|                 |                 |                           /-----Philip I King Of France
|                 |                 |                  /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Holland
|                 |                 |         /-----Peter Of France, Lord Of Courteney
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Humbert II Count Of Maurienne And Savoy
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Gisele Of Burgundy
|                 |                  \-----Alice De Courtenay
|                 |                          |                  /-----Miles Seigneur Of Courtenay
|                 |                          |         /-----Renaud De Courtenay, Seigneur De Courtenay
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Ermengard De Nevers
|                 |                           \-----Elizabeth De Courtenay
|                 |                                   |         /-----Frederick Du DONJON
|                 |                                    \-----Hedwig Du DONJON
|         /-----Edward I King Of England
|        |        |                                             /-----Raymond Berenger III Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                                    /-----Raymond Berenger IV Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Aldonza De CARLAT
|        |        |                           /-----Alfonso II King Of Aragon
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----Ramirez II King Of Aragon
|        |        |                          |         \-----Petronilla Queen Of Aragon
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Maud/Agnes Of Aquitaine
|        |        |                  /-----Alfonso II Count Of Provence
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Raymond Of Burgandy, Count Of Castille
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Alfonso VII King Of Castile And Leon
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Urraca Queen Of Castile And Leon
|        |        |                 |         \-----Sancha Of Castile
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Vladislas II Prince Of Little Poland And Krakow
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Richilde Of Poland
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Agnes De BABENBERG
|        |        |         /-----Raymond Berengar IV Count Of Provence And Forcalquier
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----William De Sabran
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Rostaing II De Sabran
|        |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Adalaicia
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Rainou Seigneur De Castellar, Count Of Forcalqu
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Raimond Of Caylar Seigneur D'Uzes And De Castell
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Roscie Of Uzes
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Beatrice Of Uzes
|        |        |        |         \-----Gersenda II Of Sabran
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Bertrand I Count Of Forcalquier
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----William II Count Of Forcalquier
|        |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Joscerane
|        |        |        |                  \-----Gersinde Of Forcalquier
|        |        |        |                           \-----Adelaida De Bezieres
|        |         \-----Eleanor Of Provence
|        |                 |                                    /-----Humbert II Count Of Maurienne And Savoy
|        |                 |                           /-----Amadeus III Count Of Savoy, Marquess Of Turin
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Gisele Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                  /-----Humbert III Count Of Savoy
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Guigues VIII Count Of Grenoble And Albon
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Matilda Of Grenoble
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Matilda
|        |                 |         /-----Thomas I Count Of Savoy
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----William Count Of Vienne And Macon
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Gerard I Count Of Vienne And Macon
|        |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Pontia Dame De Trever
|        |                 |        |         \-----Beatrix Of Macon
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Walter IV Sire De Salines
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Maurette Of Salines
|        |                  \-----Beatrice Of Savoy
|        |                          |                           /-----Aimon I Count Of Geneva
|        |                          |                  /-----Amadeus Count Of Geneva
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Ida
|        |                          |         /-----William I Count Of Geneva
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Hugues Seigneur De Cuiseaux
|        |                          |        |         \-----Matilda
|        |                          |        |                  \-----Adeline
|        |                           \-----Margaret Of Geneva
|        |                                   |                  /-----Rudolf I Sire Of Faucigny
|        |                                   |         /-----Aimon I Sire Of Faucigny
|        |                                    \-----Beatrix De FAUCIGNY
|        |                                             \-----Clementia
 \-----Joan PLANTAGENET
         |                                                      /-----William I The Great Count Of Burgundy
         |                                             /-----Raymond Of Burgandy, Count Of Castille
         |                                            |         \-----Stephanie Of Barcelona
         |                                    /-----Alfonso VII King Of Castile And Leon
         |                                   |        |         /-----Alfonso VI King Of Castile And Leon
         |                                   |         \-----Urraca Queen Of Castile And Leon
         |                                   |                  \-----Constance Of Burgandy
         |                           /-----Fernando II King Of Leon
         |                          |        |                  /-----Raymond Berenger II Count Of Barcelona
         |                          |        |         /-----Raymond Berenger III Count Of Barcelona
         |                          |        |        |         \-----Matilda De APULIA
         |                          |         \-----Berenguela Of Barcelona
         |                          |                 |         /-----Gilbert De CARLAT, Vicomte De Carlat
         |                          |                  \-----Aldonza De CARLAT
         |                          |                           \-----Gerberga Countess Of Provence
         |                  /-----Alfonso IX King Of Leon
         |                 |        |                           /-----Henry Of Burgundy
         |                 |        |                  /-----Henry I Count Of Portugal
         |                 |        |                 |         \-----(Unk) Of Barcelona
         |                 |        |         /-----Alfonso Henriques I King Of Portugal
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Alfonso VI King Of Castile And Leon
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Theresa Of Castile
         |                 |        |        |                  \-----Ximene MUNOS
         |                 |         \-----Urraca Of Portugal
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Humbert II Count Of Maurienne And Savoy
         |                 |                 |         /-----Amadeus III Count Of Savoy, Marquess Of Turin
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Gisele Of Burgundy
         |                 |                  \-----Maud Of Savoy
         |                 |                          |         /-----Guigues VIII Count Of Grenoble And Albon
         |                 |                           \-----Matilda Of Grenoble
         |                 |                                    \-----Matilda
         |         /-----Fernando III The Saint King Of Castile And Leon
         |        |        |                                    /-----Raymond Of Burgandy, Count Of Castille
         |        |        |                           /-----Alfonso VII King Of Castile And Leon
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Urraca Queen Of Castile And Leon
         |        |        |                  /-----Sancho III King Of Castile
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Raymond Berenger III Count Of Barcelona
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Berenguela Of Barcelona
         |        |        |                 |                  \-----Aldonza De CARLAT
         |        |        |         /-----Alfonso VIII The Good King Of Castile
         |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Ramirez II Lord Of Urroz And Moncon
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----Garcia V King Of Navarre
         |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Christine
         |        |        |        |         \-----Blanche Of Navarre
         |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Gilbert De L'AIGLE, Baron Of Pevensey
         |        |        |        |                  \-----Marguerite Of Perche
         |        |        |        |                           \-----Juliana Of Perch And Montagne
         |        |         \-----Berengaria Of Castile
         |        |                 |                           /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
         |        |                 |                  /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
         |        |                 |         /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Matilda
         |        |                 |        |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
         |        |                  \-----Eleanor Of England
         |        |                          |                  /-----William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
         |        |                          |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
         |        |                          |        |         \-----Maud Of Toulouse
         |        |                           \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
         |        |                                   |         /-----Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
         |        |                                    \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
         |        |                                             \-----Dangerose
          \-----Eleanor Of Castile
                  |                                             /-----Hugh II Count Of Dammartin
                  |                                    /-----Odo De DAMMARTIN
                  |                                   |         \-----Rohais
                  |                           /-----Alberic I De DAMMARTIN
                  |                          |        |         /-----(Unk) De ST CLAIR
                  |                          |         \-----Basilia De St CLAIR
                  |                  /-----Alberic II De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Dammartin
                  |                 |         \-----(Unk)
                  |         /-----Simon De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Aumale
                  |        |        |                           /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
                  |        |        |                  /-----Hugh Count Of Clermont
                  |        |        |                 |         \-----Ermengardis
                  |        |        |         /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
                  |        |        |        |        |         /-----Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
                  |        |        |        |         \-----Margaret De Roucy
                  |        |        |        |                  \-----Adele De Roucy
                  |        |         \-----Maud Of Clermont
                  |        |                 |                  /-----Thierry II Count Of Bar
                  |        |                 |         /-----Renaud I Count Of Bar
                  |        |                 |        |         \-----Ermentrude Of Burgandy
                  |        |                  \-----Clemence Of Bar-Le-Duc
                  |        |                          |         /-----Gerard I Of Lorraine, Count Of Vaudemont
                  |        |                           \-----Gisele De VAUDEMONT
                  |        |                                    \-----Helwide/Edith Of Egisheim
                   \-----Joan De DAMMARTIN
                           |                                    /-----William III TALVAS, Count Of Alencon And Ponthieu
                           |                           /-----Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
                           |                          |         \-----Helie/Alice Of Burgandy
                           |                  /-----John I De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
                           |                 |         \-----Ida
                           |         /-----William III De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
                           |        |        |                  /-----Hugh III Count Of St. Pol
                           |        |        |         /-----Anselme CANDAVAINE, Count Of St. Pol
                           |        |        |        |         \-----Beatrix
                           |        |         \-----Beatrice Of St. Pol
                            \-----Marie Countess Of Ponthieu
                                    |                           /-----Philip I King Of France
                                    |                  /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
                                    |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Holland
                                    |         /-----Louis VII The Young King Of France
                                    |        |        |         /-----Humbert II Count Of Maurienne And Savoy
                                    |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
                                    |        |                  \-----Gisele Of Burgundy
                                     \-----Alice Of France
                                             |                  /-----Raymond Of Burgandy, Count Of Castille
                                             |         /-----Alfonso VII King Of Castile And Leon
                                             |        |         \-----Urraca Queen Of Castile And Leon
                                              \-----Constance Of Castile
                                                      |         /-----Raymond Berenger III Count Of Barcelona
                                                       \-----Berenguela Of Barcelona
                                                                \-----Aldonza De CARLAT



Descendants of Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer
1. Thomas De MONTHERMER, Lord Monthermer m. Margaret De BRAOSE
m. Margaret De BRAOSE father: Sir Piers De BREUSE mother: Agnes De CLIFFORD

2nd generation

2. Margaret De MONTHERMER, Baroness Monthermer m. John De MONTAGU, Lord Montagu
m. John De MONTAGU, Lord Montagu father: Sir William De MONTAGU, Earl Of Salisbury mother: Katharine De GRANDISON

3rd generation

3. John De MONTAGU, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury m. Maud FRAUNCEYS
m. Maud FRAUNCEYS father: Sir Adam FRAUNCEYS, Lord Mayor Of London mother: Agnes CHAMPNES
4. Ellen De MONTAGU m. Sir John De DINHAM, Lord Dinham
m. Sir John De DINHAM, Lord Dinham father: Sir John De DINHAM, Lord Dinham mother: Muriel De COURTENAY

4th generation

10. Elizabeth De MONTAGU m. Robert De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby
m. Robert De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby father: William De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby mother: Lucy Le STRANGE
13. Anne De MONTAGU m1. Sir Richard HANKEFORD m2. Sir Lewis AP JOHN m3. Sir John De HOLAND, K.G., Duke Of Exeter
m. Sir Richard HANKEFORD father: Richard HANKERFORD mother: Thomasine STAPELDON
m. Sir Lewis AP JOHN father: John JOHAN
m. Sir John De HOLAND, K.G., Duke Of Exeter father: Sir John De HOLAND, K.G., Duke Of Exeter mother: Elizabeth Of Lancaster
14. Sir Thomas MONTAGU, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury m1. Eleanor De HOLAND m2. Alice CHAUCER m3.
m. Eleanor De HOLAND father: Sir Thomas HOLLAND, K.G., Earl Of Kent mother: Alice FITZALAN
m. Alice CHAUCER father: Thomas CHAUCER mother: Maud BURGHERSH
15. Muriel DINHAM m. Sir Edward HASTINGS, Lord Hastings
m. Sir Edward HASTINGS, Lord Hastings father: Sir Hugh De HASTINGS mother: Anne DESPENSER

5th generation

16. Joan WILLOUGHBY m. Richard WELLES, Lord Welles And Willoughby
m. Richard WELLES, Lord Welles And Willoughby father: Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G., Lord Welles mother: Joan De WATERTON
17. Anne HANKEFORD m. Thomas ORMOND, Earl of Ormond
m. Thomas ORMOND, Earl of Ormond father: James BUTLER, Earl Of Ormond mother: Joan BEAUCHAMP
18. Elizabeth FITZ LEWIS m. Sir John WINGFIELD
m. Sir John WINGFIELD father: Sir Robert WINGFIELD mother: Elizabeth GOUSHILL
20. Margaret FITZ LEWIS m1. Sir William LUCY m2. John WAKE
m. Sir William LUCY father: Sir Walter LUCY mother: Alienor L'ARCEDEKENE
m. John WAKE father: Thomas WAKE mother: Agnes LOVELL
22. Alice MONTAGU, Countess Of Salisbury m. Sir Richard De NEVILLE, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury
m. Sir Richard De NEVILLE, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury father: Sir Ralph De NEVILLE, K.G., Earl Of Westmoreland mother: Joan De BEAUFORT
25. John HASTINGS, Lord Hastings m. Anna MORLEY
m. Anna MORLEY father: Thomas MORLEY, Lord Morley mother: Isabel De La POLE