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  1. Erembourg Of Maine Birth: Abt 1096 Death: 1126

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Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1065 [Ref: Alan B. Wilson SGM 3/27/1997],
place:
[Ref: Alan B. Wilson SGM 3/27/1997],
parents:
[Ref: Alan B. Wilson SGM 3/27/1997, HenryII helia000 1/10/2008, HenryII john0000 1/10/2008, HenryII paula000 1/10/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p11, Watney WALLOP #642],
father:
[Ref: Paget HRHCharles p60]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Alan B. Wilson SGM 3/27/1997, HenryII helia000 1/10/2008, HenryII john0000 1/10/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p11, Moriarty Plantagenet p12, Paget HRHCharles p60, Watney WALLOP #220, Watney WALLOP #642]
1.VII 1110 [Ref: ES XIII #68]
Sources with Information about marriage to Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
date:
1090 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p11]
abt 1090 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p12, Paget HRHCharles p60, Watney WALLOP #220, Watney WALLOP #642]
first marriage of Helias [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]
um 1090 [Ref: ES XIII #68],
names:
[Ref: HenryII eremb001 12/31/2007, HenryII gerva000 12/31/2007],
child:
[Ref: Alan B. Wilson SGM 3/27/1997, ES II #82, HenryII eremb000 12/31/2007, HenryII helia000 1/10/2008, HenryII mathi000 12/31/2007, Moriarty Plantagenet p11, Paget HRHCharles p140, Paget HRHCharles p60, Watney WALLOP #642]
Sources with Information about marriage to Agnes Of Aquitaine
date:
[Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 6/4/1998]
abt 1109 [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]
Research Notes:
Count of Maine [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008, HenryII john0000 1/10/2008, Paget HRHCharles p60, Watney WALLOP #642, Weis AR7 #118]
Lord of La Fleche [Ref: HenryII john0000 1/10/2008]
Lord of Chateau-du-Loir (j.u.) [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]
Seigneur de la Fleche [Ref: Watney WALLOP #642]

1092: purchased the county of Maine from his cousin count Hughes V; his assumption of the title of count can be dated between 29 Jun 1092, when Hugues V was still count, and 27 Jul of the same year, when he subscribed a charter of Foulques IV le Rechin, count of Anjou [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

1092-1110: Count of Maine [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

obtained the lordship of Chateau-du-Loir on the death of his father-in-law Gervaise II, Lord of Chateau-du-Loir [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

1095x97-1110: Lord of Chateau-du-Loir (j.u.) [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

The approximate date of the marriage comes from Orderic's statement that Helie died the following year ["..., sed sequenti anno multis lugentibus obiit, ...", ibid.]. [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

Guy-Geoffroy had two daughters named Agnes, one (by his second wife) married to Alfonso VI, king of Castile and Leon, who repudiated her ca. 1077, and another (by his third wife) married to Pedro I (d. 1104), king of Aragon, and there is disagreement as to which one was Helie's second wife. Alfonso's wife would satisfy Orderic's statement regarding the name of the first husband, but she is not otherwise documented after 1077. Pedro's wife was recently widowed. [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

A passage in Robert de Torigny's additions to GND suggests that Helie was once betrothed to a daughter of his cousin Hugues V (son of Azzo of Este and Gersende of Maine), count of Maine ["Interea Cinomannenses ... consilium ineunt cum Helia, filio Iohannis de Fleca, uiro forti et industrio et in illa prouincia potentissimo, ut filiam cuiusdam comitis Langobardie, neptem uidelicet Herberti, quondam Cinomannensis comitis, ex primogenita filia in matrimoniam ducat, ..." GND (Rob. Tor.), viii, 5 (vol. 2, pp. 208-9)]. If so, it is unlikely that such a marriage ever took place. [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]

on his death both possessions passed to his daughter Eremburge and her husband Fulk of Anjou [Ref: HenryII helia000 1/10/2008]



Pedigree of Helias Count Of Maine
                   /-----Landry Sire de Baugency
          /-----Lancellin I Sire De Baugency In Orleanais
 /-----John De BAUGENCY, Seigneur De La Fleche
Helias Count Of Maine
|                                                      /-----(Unk)
|                                             /-----Roger Count Of Maine
|                                    /-----Hugh I Count Of Maine
|                                   |        |                  /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|                                   |        |         /-----Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
|                                   |        |        |         \-----Judith Of Bavaria
|                                   |         \-----Rothildis
|                                   |                 |         /-----Budwine Count Of Metz
|                                   |                  \-----Richaut Of Metz
|                                   |                           \-----Richilda
|                           /-----Hugh II Count Of Maine
|                          |        |                           /-----Rorick Count Of Maine
|                          |        |                  /-----Gausfred Count Of Maine
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Bilihild
|                          |        |         /-----Gauslen Count Of Maine
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Eudes Count Of Orleans
|                          |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Orleans
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Engeltrude
|                          |         \-----Bilichildis Of Maine
|                  /-----Hugh III Count Of Maine
|         /-----Herbert Count Of Maine
 \-----Paula Of Maine



Descendants of Helias Count Of Maine
1. Helias Count Of Maine m1. Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir m2. Agnes Of Aquitaine
m. Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir father: Gervase Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir mother: Aremburge
m. Agnes Of Aquitaine father: William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou mother: Matilda De La Marche

2nd generation

2. Erembourg Of Maine m. Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
m. Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem father: Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou mother: Bertrade De MONTFORT

3rd generation

3. Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy m1. Matilda m2.
m. Matilda father: Henry I Beauclerc King Of England mother: Matilda Of Scotland
4. Helie Of Anjou, Count Of Maine m. Philippa De PERCHE
m. Philippa De PERCHE father: Routrou II Count Of Perche mother: Matilda
6. Sybil Of Anjou m1. William Clito Earl Of Flanders m2. Thierry Of Lorraine, Count Of Flanders
m. William Clito Earl Of Flanders father: Robert Curthose Duke Of Normandy mother: Sybilla Of Conversaria
m. Thierry Of Lorraine, Count Of Flanders father: Thierry II Duke Of Lorraine mother: Gertrude Of Flanders

4th generation

7. Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England m1. Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine m2. m3. Annabel De BALIOL m4. Alix De PORHOET m5. Ida Countess Of Norfolk m6. Fair Rosamonde CLIFFORD m7. Hikenai m8. Nest m9. Alice Of France
m. Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine father: William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine mother: Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
m. Annabel De BALIOL father: Bernard II De BALLIOL, Baron Of Bywell mother: Agnes De PICQUIGNY
m. Alix De PORHOET father: Eudon De PORHOET
m. Ida Countess Of Norfolk father: Ralph V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead mother: Margaret De BEAUMONT
m. Fair Rosamonde CLIFFORD father: Walter De CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford mother: Margaret De TOENI
m. Hikenai
m. Nest father: Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd mother: Angharad
m. Alice Of France father: Louis VII The Young King Of France mother: Constance Of Castile
10. Hameline PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Surrey m. Isabel De WARENNE, Countess Of Surrey
m. Isabel De WARENNE, Countess Of Surrey father: William III De WARRENNE, Earl Of Surrey mother: Ela TALVAS
11. Emma PLANTAGENET m. Dafydd Ab Owain, Prince Of Gwynedd
m. Dafydd Ab Owain, Prince Of Gwynedd father: Owain Gwynedd Prince Of Gwynedd mother: Christina Ferch Growny
14. Beatrice Of Maine m. John I Count Of Alencon
m. John I Count Of Alencon father: William III TALVAS, Count Of Alencon And Ponthieu mother: Helie/Alice Of Burgandy
16. Peter Of Flanders, Count Of Nevers m. Mathilda Of Burgundy, Countess Of Grignon
m. Mathilda Of Burgundy, Countess Of Grignon father: Raymond Of Burgundy, Count Of Grignon mother: Agnes Of Thiern
17. Matthew Of Alsace, Count Of Boulogne m1. Mary Countess Of Mortagne And Boulogne m2. Eleanore Of Vermandois
m. Mary Countess Of Mortagne And Boulogne father: Stephen Of Blois, King Of England mother: Matilda Of Boulogne
m. Eleanore Of Vermandois father: Raoul I Count Of Vermandois mother: Petronelle Of Poitou
18. Margarite Of Lorraine, Heiress Of Flanders m1. Raoul/Rudolph II Count Of Vermandois m2. Baldwin V Count Of Hainaut And Namur
m. Raoul/Rudolph II Count Of Vermandois father: Raoul I Count Of Vermandois mother: Petronelle Of Poitou
m. Baldwin V Count Of Hainaut And Namur father: Baldwin IV Count Of Hainault mother: Alix De NAMUR

5th generation

21. Henry Duke Of Normandy m. Margaret Of France
m. Margaret Of France father: Louis VII The Young King Of France mother: Constance Of Castile
22. Maud Of England m. Henry V The Lion Duke Of Saxony
m. Henry V The Lion Duke Of Saxony father: Henry X The Proud Duke Of Bavaria mother: Gertrude Of Saxony
23. Richard I Cour De Lion King Of England m1. m2. Berengaria Of Navarre
m. Berengaria Of Navarre father: Sancho VI King Of Navarre mother: Sancha Of Castile
24. Geoffrey II PLANTAGENET, Duke Of Brittany m. Constance Countess Of Brittany
m. Constance Countess Of Brittany father: Conan IV Le Petit Duke Of Brittany mother: Margaret Of Huntingdon
25. Eleanor Of England m. Alfonso VIII The Good King Of Castile
m. Alfonso VIII The Good King Of Castile father: Sancho III King Of Castile mother: Blanche Of Navarre
27. Joan Of England m1. William II The Good King Of Sicily m2. Raymond VI Count Of Toulouse
m. William II The Good King Of Sicily father: William I The Bad King Of Sicily mother: Margaret Of Navarre
m. Raymond VI Count Of Toulouse father: Raymond V Count Of Toulouse mother: Constance Of France
28. John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England m1. Isabel Of Gloucester m2. Isabel Of Angouleme m3. m4. (Unk Dau) m5. Hawise FITZ WARIN m6. Agatha De FERRERS
m. Isabel Of Gloucester father: William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester mother: Hawise DeBEAUMONT
m. Isabel Of Angouleme father: Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme mother: Alice De Courtenay
m. (Unk Dau) father: Hameline PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Surrey mother: Isabel De WARENNE, Countess Of Surrey
m. Hawise FITZ WARIN father: Fulk FITZ WARIN mother: Hawise De DINAN
m. Agatha De FERRERS father: William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Sibyl De BRAOISE
30. William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury m. Ela Of Salisbury
m. Ela Of Salisbury father: William FITZ PATRICK, Earl Of Salisbury mother: Eleanor De VITRE
34. William De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey m1. Matilda D'AUBIGNY m2. Maud MARSHALL
m. Matilda D'AUBIGNY father: William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Sussex And Arundel mother: Maud St. HILLARY
m. Maud MARSHALL father: Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke mother: Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
35. Maud De WARENNE m1. Henry Count D'Eu, Baron Of Hastings m2. Henry De STOUTVILLE, Lord Of Valmont
m. Henry Count D'Eu, Baron Of Hastings father: John Count D'Eu, Baron Of Hastings mother: Adelise D'AUBIGNY
m. Henry De STOUTVILLE, Lord Of Valmont father: Robert III Lord Of Stouteville mother: Leonia Of Salisbury
36. Adela/Ela De WARENNE m1. Robert De NEWBURGH m2. William FITZ WILLIAM
m. Robert De NEWBURGH father: Henry De NEWBURGH mother: Margaret De HAUTEVILLE
m. William FITZ WILLIAM father: Sir William FITZGODRIC mother: Albreada LIZOURS, Baroness Of Pontfract
37. Isabel m1. Robert II De LACY m2. Gilbert De L'AIGLE, Baron Of Pevensey
m. Robert II De LACY father: Henry De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract mother: Aubrey De VESCI
m. Gilbert De L'AIGLE, Baron Of Pevensey father: Richard De L'AIGLE, Baron Of Pevensey mother: Odeline
38. (Unk Dau) m. John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
m. John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England father: Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England mother: Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
46. Alice Of Alencon m. Hugh II Vicount Of Chatellerault
m. Hugh II Vicount Of Chatellerault father: Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault mother: Dangerose
47. Philippe Of Alencon m1. William De ROUMARE, Earl Of Lincoln m2. William MALET m3. William De PREAUX
m. William De ROUMARE, Earl Of Lincoln father: William De ROUMARE mother: Agnes Of Aumale
m. William MALET father: Matthew De Graville
m. William De PREAUX
49. Sybille Of Flanders m. Robert I Seneschall Of Flanders
m. Robert I Seneschall Of Flanders father: Hellin I Of Wavrin, Seneschall Of Flanders mother: Tirsella Of Arras
50. Ida Countess Of Bologne m1. m2. Matthew m3. Gerhard Of Gelders m4. Bertold IV Duke Of Zahringen m5. Renaud De Dammartin, Count Of Boulogne
m. Matthew
m. Gerhard Of Gelders father: Henry Count Of Guelders mother: Agnes Of Arnstein
m. Bertold IV Duke Of Zahringen father: Conrad Duke Of Zahringen mother: Clemence
m. Renaud De Dammartin, Count Of Boulogne father: Alberic II De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Dammartin mother: Maud Of Clermont
51. Maud Of Boulogne m. Henry I The Warrior Duke Of Brabant
m. Henry I The Warrior Duke Of Brabant father: Godfrey III Count Of Louvain mother: Margaret Von LIMBOURG
52. Sibylle Of Flanders m. Guichard IV The Great Sire De Beaujeu
m. Guichard IV The Great Sire De Beaujeu father: Humbert IV Of Beaujeu mother: Agnes Of Thiern
53. Isabella Of Hainaut, Countess Of Artois m. Philip II Augustus King Of France
m. Philip II Augustus King Of France father: Louis VII The Young King Of France mother: Alix Of Champagne
54. Baldwin IX Eastern Emperor m. Mary Of Champagne
m. Mary Of Champagne father: Henry I Count Of Champagne mother: Mary
56. Iolande Of Hainault, Countess Of Namur m. Peter De COURTENAY, Emperor Of Constantinople
m. Peter De COURTENAY, Emperor Of Constantinople father: Peter Of France, Lord Of Courteney mother: Elizabeth De Courtenay