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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Katherine FITZ WALTER
  2. Lora FITZ WALTER
  3. Sir Robert FITZ WALTER, Lord Fitz Walter Birth: 1247 in Henham, Essex Death: 18 Jan 1325/6
  4. Ela FITZ WALTER Birth: Abt 1248 Death: After 7 Jan 1311

Bibliography
  1. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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  4. Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Ida Longspee - dau or gdau of William Longspee, private email 6/25/2003. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson 6/25/2003].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1230 [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 9/15/2002-064341],
parents:
[Ref: CP XI p381(k), Douglas Richardson 6/25/2003, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p650, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p599, Watney WALLOP #617]
probably William de LONGSPEE and Idoine de CAMVILLE, but possibly a second Ida of William de LONGSPEE & Ela of Salisbury [Ref: Roberts RD600 p455],
father:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p767, Clutterbuck Hertford v3p119, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581, Watney WALLOP #405],
note:
identification as daughter of William (Longsword) Earl of Salisbury was removed in CP by the corrections in volumn XIV [Ref: CP V p472 (with corr in XIV p326)]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
William De LONGSPEE (#11273) & Idoine de CAMVILLE (#11274) [Ref: ES III.2 #356a, Paget HRHCharles p15, Weis AR7 #30]
Sources for death Information
date:
after 1262 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #617]
living 10 Apr 1262 [Ref: CP V p472(g)]
living 11 May 1262 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p651]
living 1262 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #405]
living 6 Aug 1261 [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p15]
nach 6.VIII 1271 [Ref: ES III.2 #356]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Walter FITZ ROBERT, Baron Of Little Dunmow
names:
[Ref: CP XI p381(k), ES III.2 #356a, Paget HRHCharles p15, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p650, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p610, Watney WALLOP #405, Watney WALLOP #617],
child:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p767, CP V p472, Clutterbuck Hertford v3p119, Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625, John Ravilious SGM 11/22/2004-164318, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p651, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p272, Roberts RD600 p455, Rosie Bevan SGM 9/15/2002-064341, Weis AR7 #148, Weis AR7 #30, Weis MC #50]
Research Notes:
Though peerage articles, including CP V p472, have long identified Ida as daughter of William Longspee (son of Henry II), it is clear that their daughter Ida actually m(1) Ralph de Somery d.s.p. and m(2) before 1220 William Beauchamp of Bedford (AR:122A-29) (CP XII/1 note g says this Ida liv Apr 10 1262). Moriarty's Plantagenet Ancestry suggests William Longspee had two daughters Ida or Idoine, which may be correct. But there appears almost a generation difference between the two Idas, so the chroniclers may hae missed a generation and this Ida may be the dau of William's son William II (AR:122-29). [Ref: Weis AR7 #30]

Ida was identified as a daughter of William Longespee, Sr, and his wife, Ela of Salisbury, in the Lacock Abbey records. After Ida's husband died, her brother, Stephen Longespee, had administration of Walter's estate. [Ref: Douglas Richardson 6/25/2003, Douglas Richardson SGM 2/24/2002-050235]

Pedigree in the Lacock Abbey records discusses the children of William Longspee I [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/24/2002-050235]

The latest theory that there were two Ida's as siblings in the family of William Longespee and Ela, Countess of Salisbury is not supported by the Foundation History in the annals of Lacock Abbey, which was founded in 1229-30 by Ela, widow of William Longespee. [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 9/15/2002-064341]

As Robert, the eldest child of Ida was born in 1247, her estimated date of birth is around 1230 [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 9/15/2002-064341]



Pedigree of Ida LONGSPEE
                                                                /-----Fulk Count Of Perche
                                                       /-----Hugo Of Perch
                                                      |         \-----Melisende
                                              /-----Geoffrey Ferreol Count Of The Gatinais
                                             |        |         /-----Aubri Count Of Macon
                                             |         \-----Beatrix Of Macon
                                             |                  \-----(Unk)
                                     /-----Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |                  /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |        |         \-----Adele Of Troyes
                                    |         \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
                                    |                  \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
                            /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
                           |        |                           /-----William Count Of Hainault
                           |        |                  /-----Amauri III De MONTFORT
                           |        |                 |         \-----(Unk) Heiress Of Montfort And Epernon
                           |        |         /-----Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Guilaume De Gommetz
                           |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De GOMMETZ
                           |        |        |                  \-----Alberade
                           |         \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
                           |                 |                  /-----Robert Count Of Evereux, Archbishop Of Rouen
                           |                 |         /-----Richard Count Of Evereux
                           |                 |        |         \-----Herleva
                           |                  \-----Agnes Of Evereux
                           |                           \-----Godehildie
                   /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
                  |        |                                    /-----Landry Sire de Baugency
                  |        |                           /-----Lancellin I Sire De Baugency In Orleanais
                  |        |                  /-----John De BAUGENCY, Seigneur De La Fleche
                  |        |         /-----Helias Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Hugh III Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Herbert Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |         \-----Paula Of Maine
                  |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
                  |                 |                           /-----Hamon Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                  /-----Robert Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Hildeburgis
                  |                 |         /-----Gervase Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |        |         \-----Elizabeth
                  |                  \-----Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                           \-----Aremburge
                  |                                    \-----Mathilde
          /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |        |                                             /-----Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                    /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                   |         \-----Gunnora
         |        |                           /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Conan I Duke Of Brittany
         |        |                          |         \-----Judith Of Brittany
         |        |                          |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
         |        |                  /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
         |        |                 |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
         |        |                 |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
         |        |                 |                  \-----Duxia
         |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Baldwin IV The Bearded Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Rosela Of Italy
         |        |        |        |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Frederick I Count Of Luxemburg
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Ogive Of Luxembourg
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Kinziggau
         |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
         |        |        |                 |                  /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
         |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
         |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
         |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of France
         |        |        |                          |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
         |        |        |                           \-----Constance Of Provence
         |        |        |                                    \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
         |         \-----Matilda
         |                 |                                    /-----Duncan Lord Of Mormaer Of Athol
         |                 |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
         |                 |                  /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Mael Coluim (Malcolm II) Mac CINAED, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |         \-----Bethoc
         |                 |         /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Beorn
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Ealdred Of Bernicia
         |                 |        |                  \-----Aelflaed
         |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
         |                          |                           /-----Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
         |                          |                  /-----Edmund Ironside King Of England
         |                          |                 |         \-----Alfflaed
         |                          |         /-----Edward Athling The Exile
         |                          |        |        |         /-----Morcar High Reeve In Northumbria
         |                          |        |         \-----Ealgyth
         |                          |        |                  \-----Eadgyth
         |                           \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
         |                                   |                  /-----Saint Vladimir Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |        |         \-----Rogneide Of Polotzk
         |                                    \-----Agatha
         |                                            |         /-----Olaf III SKOTKONUNG, King Of Sweden
         |                                             \-----Ingegard
         |                                                      \-----Astrid
 /-----William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury
|        |                                                      /-----Ralph II De TOENI, Seigneur Of Tonsi And Conches
|        |                                             /-----Roger I De TOENI
|        |                                    /-----Ralph III De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                                   |         \-----Godehildie
|        |                           /-----Ralph IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Amauri III De MONTFORT
|        |                          |        |         /-----Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De GOMMETZ
|        |                          |         \-----Isabel De MONTFORT
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Hugues I Bardoul Lord Of Broyes And Beaufort
|        |                          |                  \-----Isabel Of Broyes
|        |                          |                           \-----Alvidis
|        |                  /-----Roger III De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Beorn
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
|        |                 |        |         /-----Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Ealdred Of Bernicia
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Aelflaed
|        |                 |         \-----Alice Of Northumberland
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Eustace I Count Of Boulogne
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Lambert Of Boulogne, Count Of Lens
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Maud Of Louvain
|        |                 |                  \-----Judith Of Lens
|        |                 |                          |         /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
|        |                 |                           \-----Adelaide Of Normandy
|        |                 |                                    \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|        |         /-----Ralph V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
|        |        |        |                           /-----Baldwin VI De MONS, Count Of Flanders
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Adelaide Of France
|        |        |        |                  /-----Baldwin II Count Of Hainault
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Gerhard II Count Of Egisheim
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Richilde Countess Of Hainault
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Berta
|        |        |        |         /-----Baldwin III Count Of Hainault
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Lambert II The Belted Count Of Louvain
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Henry II Of Brabant, Count Of Lorraine
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Oda Of Lorraine
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Ida Of Louvain
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Eberhard Of Betuew And Teisterbant
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of Betuew
|        |        |         \-----Ida (Gertrude) Of Hainault
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Gerard Flameus Count Of Teirterbant
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Dietrich Flameus Count In The Velux
|        |        |                 |         /-----Gerald I Count Of Guelders And Wassenberg
|        |        |                  \-----Yolande Of Guelders
|         \-----Ida Countess Of Norfolk
|                 |                                             /-----Thorold Seigeur Of Pont-Audemer
|                 |                                    /-----Humphrey De Vieilles
|                 |                                   |         \-----Aveline
|                 |                           /-----Roger De Beaumont
|                 |                          |         \-----Aubreye De La Haie
|                 |                  /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Hugo I Count Of Meulen
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Waleran Count Of Meulan
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Oda Of Valois
|                 |                 |         \-----Adelise Of Meulan
|                 |                 |                  \-----Ode
|                 |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Henry I King Of France
|                 |        |        |                 |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|                 |        |        |         /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Anne Of Kiev
|                 |        |        |        |                  \-----Ingegard
|                 |        |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Eudes Count Of Vermandois
|                 |        |                 |         /-----Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
|                 |        |                 |        |         \-----Parvie
|                 |        |                  \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
|                 |        |                          |         /-----Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin
|                 |        |                           \-----Adela De Valois
|                 |        |                                    \-----Adela
|                  \-----Margaret De BEAUMONT
|                          |                           /-----Ralph De Gael, Earl Of Norfolk
|                          |                  /-----Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
|                          |                 |         \-----Getha
|                          |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Osbern De Crepon, Steward Of Normandy
|                          |        |        |         /-----William Fitz Osbern, Earl Of Hereford
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Emma Abbess Of St. Amand
|                          |        |         \-----Emma Fitz Osbern
|                          |        |                 |         /-----Roger I De TOENI
|                          |        |                  \-----Adelise De TONI
|                          |        |                           \-----Godehildie
|                           \-----Amicia De Gael
Ida LONGSPEE
|                                             /-----Girold DAPIFER
|                                    /-----Edward De SARESBERIE, Baron Of Trowbridge
|                                   |         \-----Wulfwynn Of Cresswell
|                           /-----Walter De SALISBURY, Baron Of Chitterne
|                  /-----Patrick De SALISBURY, Earl Of Salisbury
|                 |        |                  /-----Hugh
|                 |        |         /-----Patric De CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford
|                 |         \-----Sibyl De CHAWORTH
|                 |                 |                  /-----(Unk) De HESDIN
|                 |                 |         /-----Ernulph De HESDIN, Baron Of Keevil
|                 |                  \-----Matilda De HESDIN
|                 |                           \-----Emmeline
|         /-----William FITZ PATRICK, Earl Of Salisbury
|        |        |                                             /-----Hugh De Montgomery
|        |        |                                    /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Josceline
|        |        |                           /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|        |        |                          |         \-----Emma
|        |        |                  /-----Robert II De Belesme, Count Of Alencon
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----William I Count Of Alencon And Bellasme
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----William II TALVAS
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Mathilde
|        |        |                 |         \-----Mabel De Belesme
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Arnulf
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Hildeburg
|        |        |         /-----William III TALVAS, Count Of Alencon And Ponthieu
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Enguerrand I Count Of Ponthieu
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Hugh II Count Of Ponthieu
|        |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Adela Of Holland
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Guy I Count Of Ponthieu
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Guenfroi Count Of Aumale
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Bertha Of Aumale
|        |        |        |         \-----Agnes Of Ponthieu
|        |        |        |                  \-----Ada
|        |         \-----Ela TALVAS
|        |                 |                                    /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|        |                 |                           /-----Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|        |                 |                  /-----Henry Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Dalmus I Of Semur En Auxois
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Helle Of Semur En Auxois
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Aremburge De Vergy
|        |                 |         /-----Eudes I Borrel Duke Of Burgundy
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
|        |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Ermisende
|        |                 |        |         \-----(Unk) Of Barcelona
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Guisle Of Lluca
|        |                 |        |                           \-----Ermendinde Of Balsareny
|        |                  \-----Helie/Alice Of Burgandy
|        |                          |                           /-----Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
|        |                          |                  /-----Raynald I Count Of Burgundy
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Ermentrude Of Roucy
|        |                          |         /-----William I The Great Count Of Burgundy
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
|        |                          |        |         \-----Alice Of Normandy
|        |                          |        |                  \-----Judith Of Brittany
|        |                           \-----Matilda (Sibylle) Of Burgundy
|        |                                   |                  /-----Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
|        |                                   |         /-----Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
|        |                                   |        |         \-----Ermisende
|        |                                    \-----Stephanie Of Barcelona
|        |                                            |         /-----Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
|        |                                             \-----Guisle Of Lluca
|        |                                                      \-----Ermendinde Of Balsareny
 \-----Ela Of Salisbury
         |                                                      /-----Rivallon The Vicaire
         |                                             /-----Triscan
         |                                            |         \-----Guenergant Vicountess Of Rennes
         |                                    /-----Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
         |                                   |         \-----Enoguen
         |                           /-----Andre I De Vitre
         |                          |        |                  /-----Suthardus Vetulus De CREDONE
         |                          |        |         /-----Guerin I De CRAON
         |                          |         \-----Bertha Dame De Craon
         |                  /-----Robert II Lord Of Vitre
         |                 |        |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
         |                 |        |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
         |                 |        |        |                  \-----Duxia
         |                 |         \-----Agnes Of Mortain
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
         |                 |                 |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Emma
         |                 |                  \-----Maud De Montgomery
         |                 |                          |         /-----William II TALVAS
         |                 |                           \-----Mabel De Belesme
         |                 |                                    \-----Hildeburg
         |         /-----Robert III Lord Of Vitre
         |        |         \-----Emma De La GUERCHE
          \-----Eleanor De VITRE
                  |                                             /-----Haimon I Count In North Brittany
                  |                                    /-----Josselin Vicount Of Dinan
                  |                                   |         \-----Rioanteline
                  |                           /-----Oliver I Vicount Of Dinan
                  |                          |         \-----Orgwen
                  |                  /-----Geoffrey Vicount Of Dinan
                  |                 |         \-----Ganna
                  |         /-----Alan Of Dinan
                  |        |         \-----Orieldis
                   \-----Emma Of Dinan
                           |                                    /-----Conan I Duke Of Brittany
                           |                           /-----Geoffrey Duke Of Brittany
                           |                          |         \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
                           |                  /-----Eudes I Count Of Brittany
                           |                 |        |         /-----Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
                           |                 |         \-----Hawise Of Normandy
                           |                 |                  \-----Gunnora
                           |         /-----Stephen Count Of Brittany
                           |        |        |                  /-----Benoit Count Of Cornuaille
                           |        |        |         /-----Alain Cagnairt Count Of Cornuaille
                           |        |        |        |         \-----Guinodeon
                           |        |         \-----Agnes Of Cornuaille
                           |        |                 |         /-----Judicael Count Of Nantes
                           |        |                  \-----Judith Of Nantes
                           |        |                           \-----Melisende
                            \-----Agnorie
                                     \-----Hawise Of Guincamp



Descendants of Ida LONGSPEE
1. Ida LONGSPEE m. Sir Walter FITZ ROBERT, Baron Of Little Dunmow
m. Sir Walter FITZ ROBERT, Baron Of Little Dunmow father: Robert FITZ WALTER, Leader Of MC Barons mother: Rohese

2nd generation

4. Sir Robert FITZ WALTER, Lord Fitz Walter m1. Devorguilla De BURGH m2. Alinore De FERRERS m3. Alice De MONTFORT
m. Devorguilla De BURGH father: John De BURGH, Baron Of Walkern mother: Cecily De BALLIOL
m. Alinore De FERRERS father: Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Alianore De BOHUN
m. Alice De MONTFORT father: Sir Piers De MONTFORT mother: Maud De La MARE
5. Ela FITZ WALTER m. William ODDINGSELLS, Lord Of Maxtock
m. William ODDINGSELLS, Lord Of Maxtock father: William De ODINGSELLS mother: Joan

3rd generation

6. Maud FITZ ROBERT m. Robert BAYNARD
m. Robert BAYNARD father: Robert BAYNARD mother: Joan
7. Christian FITZ ROBERT m. William MARSHALL, Lord Marshall
m. William MARSHALL, Lord Marshall father: John MARSHALL, Baron Of Hockering mother: Hawise De SAY
9. Walter FITZ ROBERT m. Joan ENGAINE
m. Joan ENGAINE father: Sir John ENGAINE mother: Joan GREINVILLE
13. Sir Robert FITZWALTER, Lord FitzWalter m1. Joan De BOTETOURTE m2. Joan De MULTON
m. Joan De BOTETOURTE father: John De BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte mother: Maud FITZ THOMAS
m. Joan De MULTON father: Sir Thomas De MULTON, Lord Multon mother: Eleanor De BURGH
14. Alice ODDINGSELLS m. Maurice De CAUNTON
m. Maurice De CAUNTON
15. Ela De ODINGSELLS m1. Piers De BERMINGHAM, Lord Of Thetmoy m2. Sir Eustace Le POWER m3. Philip PURCELL
m. Piers De BERMINGHAM, Lord Of Thetmoy father: Sir James De BERMINGHAM
m. Sir Eustace Le POWER
m. Philip PURCELL
16. Ida ODDINGSELLS m1. Roger De HERDEBURGH m2. John De CLINTON, Lord Clinton
m. Roger De HERDEBURGH father: Sir Hugh De HERDEBURGH mother: Isabel TURVILLE
m. John De CLINTON, Lord Clinton father: Thomas De CLINTON mother: Maud BRACEBRIDGE
18. Margaret De ODINGSELLS m1. Sir John De GREY m2. Sir Robert De MOREBY
m. Sir John De GREY father: Sir Robert De GREY mother: Joan De VALOINES
m. Sir Robert De MOREBY

4th generation

23. Hawise MARSHALL, Baroness Marshall m. Robert De MORLEY, Lord Morley
m. Robert De MORLEY, Lord Morley father: William De MORLEY, Lord Morley mother: Cecily De MOHAUT
25. John FITZWALTER, Lord FitzWalter m. Eleanor PERCY
m. Eleanor PERCY father: Henry De PERCY, Lord Percy mother: Idonia De CLIFFORD
26. David De CAUNTON m. Joan
m. Joan
27. William De CAUNTON m.
29. Bridget De BERMINGHAM m. Sir Henry DYLON
m. Sir Henry DYLON father: Henry DYLON mother: Olivia FITZ GERALD
30. William De BIRMINGHAM, Lord Of Thetmoy m.
31. John De BERMINGHAM, Earl Of Louth m. Aveline De BURGH
m. Aveline De BURGH father: Richard De BURGH, Earl Of Ulster mother: Margaret Of Guines
32. Piers De BERMINGHAM m.
33. Isabel De HERDEBURGH m. John HULLES
m. John HULLES
35. Ela HERDEBURGH m1. Sir Walter De HOPTON m2. William Le BOTILLER, Lord Botiller
m. Sir Walter De HOPTON father: Sir Walter De HOPTON mother: Joan
m. William Le BOTILLER, Lord Botiller father: William Le BOTELER mother: Angharad Ferch Gruffudd
36. John CLINTON, Lord Clinton m. Margarey CORBET
m. Margarey CORBET father: Sir William CORBET
37. Sir William CLINTON, Earl Of Huntingdon m1. Julian LEYBURNE, Baroness Leyburn m2.
m. Julian LEYBURNE, Baroness Leyburn father: Sir Thomas LEYBURNE mother: Alice De TOENI
39. Joan CLINTON m1. Edmund DEINCOURT m2. Hamon De MASCY
m. Edmund DEINCOURT father: John DEINCOURT
m. Hamon De MASCY
40. Elizabeth De CLINTON m. Eble De MONTZ
m. Eble De MONTZ
42. Sir John De GREY, K.G., Lord Grey Of Rotherfield m1. Catharine FITZ ALAN m2. Avice MARMION
m. Catharine FITZ ALAN father: Sir Brian FITZ ALAN, Lord Fitz Alan mother: Maud
m. Avice MARMION father: John MARMION, Lord Marmion mother: Maud FURNIVAL

5th generation

44. William De MORLEY, Lord Morley m. Cicely BARDOLF
m. Cicely BARDOLF father: Sir Thomas BARDOLF, Lord Bardolf mother: Agnes De GRANDSON
45. Alice FITZWALTER m. Aubrey De VERE, Earl Of Oxford
m. Aubrey De VERE, Earl Of Oxford father: John De VERE, Earl Of Oxford mother: Maud De BADLESMERE
46. Sir Walter FITZWALTER, Lord FitzWalter m1. Alianore De DAGWORTH m2. Philippa MOHUN
m. Alianore De DAGWORTH father: Sir Thomas De DAGWORTH, Lord Dagworth mother: Eleanor De BOHUN
m. Philippa MOHUN father: John De MOHUN, K.G., Lord Mohun mother: Joan BURGHERSH
47. Elizabeth De CAUNTON m. Maurice FITZ JOHN FITZ NICHOLAS, Lord Kerry
m. Maurice FITZ JOHN FITZ NICHOLAS, Lord Kerry father: John FITZ NICHOLAS, Lord Kerry mother: Honor O'BRIEN
49. Robert DYLON m. Anne Le POER
m. Anne Le POER father: Sir Eustace Le POER
50. Walter De BIRMINGHAM, Lord Of Thetmoy m. Elizabeth De MULTON
m. Elizabeth De MULTON father: Sir Thomas De MULTON, Lord Multon mother: Eleanor De BURGH
57. Sir Walter De HOPTON m. Joan
m. Joan
58. Sir John De HOPTON m. Alice Le STRANGE
m. Alice Le STRANGE
63. Ida BOTELER m. Sir William TRUSSELL
m. Sir William TRUSSELL father: Sir William TRUSSELL mother: Matilda MAINWARING
64. Alice Le BOTILLER m1. Sir Nicholas De LONGFORD m2. John De HYDE
m. Sir Nicholas De LONGFORD father: Sir John De LONGFORD mother: Joan BYRON
m. John De HYDE
65. Ankaret BUTLER m1. John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange m2. Sir Thomas De FERRERS
m. John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange father: Fulk Le STRANGE, Lord Strange mother: Eleanor GIFFORD
m. Sir Thomas De FERRERS father: Sir William De FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Groby mother: Ellen De SEGRAVE
66. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton m1. m2. Idonea De SAY m3. (Unk) m4. Joan m5. Elizabeth De La PLANCHE
m. Idonea De SAY father: Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say mother: Maud De BEAUCHAMP
m. (Unk)
m. Joan
m. Elizabeth De La PLANCHE father: William De La PLANCHE mother: Elizabeth HILLARY
67. Ida CLINTON m1. Sir John Le STRANGE m2. Sir Baldwin De FREVILL
m. Sir John Le STRANGE
m. Sir Baldwin De FREVILL father: Sir Baldwin De FREVILL mother: Elizabeth De MONTFORT
71. Elizabeth CLINTON m. Sir John FITZ WILLIAM
m. Sir John FITZ WILLIAM father: Sir John FITZWILLIAM mother: Joan RERESBY
74. Joan GREY m1. Sir Richard WILLOUGHBY m2. Sir John DABRIDGCOURT
m. Sir Richard WILLOUGHBY father: Sir Richard WILLOUGHBY mother: Issabell MORTEIN
m. Sir John DABRIDGCOURT
75. John GRAY, Lord Gray Of Rotherfield m. Maud BURGHERSH
m. Maud BURGHERSH father: Sir Bartholomew De BURGHERSH, Lord Burghersh mother: Elizabeth De VERDUN
77. Maud GRAY m1. John De BOTETOURTE m2. Sir Thomas De HARCOURT
m. John De BOTETOURTE father: John De BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte Of Weoble mother: Joyce La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER
m. Sir Thomas De HARCOURT father: Sir William De HARCOURT mother: Jane De GREY
78. Sir Robert De GREY m. Lora De ST QUENTIN
m. Lora De ST QUENTIN father: Sir Hubert De ST QUENTIN mother: Margery De LISLE