Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Clemence Of Burgundy Death: 1133
- Renard II Count Of Burgundy Death: 1097 in Crusade
- Hugh Archbishop Of Besancon Death: 13 Sep 1101
- Guy Archbishop Of Vienna, Pope Calistus II Death: 13 Nov 1124
- Bertha Of Burgundy Death: 19 May Abt 1097
- Stephen Of Burgundy, Count Of Vienne Birth: Abt 1055
Death: 27 May 1102 in Askelon
- Ermentrude Of Burgandy Birth: Abt 1060
Death: After 3 Jul 1105
- Matilda (Sibylle) Of Burgundy Birth: Abt 1065
Death: After 1103
- Raymond Of Burgandy, Count Of Castille Birth: Abt 1070
Death: 24 May 1107 in Grajal
- Gisele Of Burgundy Birth: Abt 1070
Death: After 1133
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Settipani, Christian, Stephanie of Longwy. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 5/7/2001. Subject: Etiennette of Longwy - NOT!!!!. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/T2LJs0MgOs4/m/hayTCe3bc0EJ. Author address: inapit at club-internet dot fr. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Christian Settipani SGM 5/7/2001-152746].
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DeVajay, Szabolcs, La sintesis europea en el abolengo y la politica matrimonial de Alfonso el Casto, in Congreso De Historia De La Corona De Aragon, Vol II Communicaciones, 1-6 Octubre 1962, Barcelona. LDS Film#0962812#4. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007942239 images 484-501. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p[0-9]*].
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Farmerie, Todd, Etiennette of Longwy - NOT!!!!. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/26/2001. Subject: Etiennette of Longwy - NOT!!!!. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ElQE2U-hnIA/m/ySkErh4VwWMJ. Author address: farmerie at interfold dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/26/2001-022926].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- (1035) [Ref: ES II #59]
- abt 1030 [Ref: Settipani Nobles p149]
- abt 1035 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p289, Weis AR7 #132],
- father:
- Raymond Berengar Count of Barcelona [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p63]
- perhaps of Barcelona [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p62]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- parents:
- (Adalbert II Gf v Longwy (#17401) & Clemencia De Foix(#13659)) [Ref:
ES II #59]
- Adalbert II Duke of Upper Lorraine (#17401) & Clemce de Foix (#13659)
[Ref: DeVajay Aragon p289, Weis AR7 #132]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 19 Oct abt 1092 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p289]
- 19.X nach 1088 [Ref: ES II #59]
- after 1069 [Ref: Settipani Nobles p149]
- living 1088 [Ref: Weis AR7 #132]
Sources with Inaccurate death Information
- date:
- 30 Jun 1109 [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p63]
Sources with Information about marriage to William I The Great Count Of Burgundy
- date:
- 1049/57 [Ref: ES II #59]
- abt 1050 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p62],
- names:
- [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p289],
- child:
- [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p288, ES II #20, ES II #59, Moriarty Plantagenet
p62, Paget HRHCharles p63, Settipani Nobles p149, Watney WALLOP #182, Weis AR7
#101, Weis AR7 #108, Weis AR7 #132, Weis AR7 #135, Weis AR7 #144]
Research Notes:
not of Vienne, perhaps of Barcelona, as Winklehaus calls her dau of Raymond
Berenger Count of Barcelona [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p62]
parents identified by Aselme as Raimond of Barcelona and Sancha of Navarre
[Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/26/2001-022926]
Szabolcs de Vajay in Prosopographica et Genealogica, vol.3, Onomastioque et
Parente dans l'Occident medieval, (K. S. B. Keats-Rohan and C. Settipani, eds.
(2000)) contributes a reevaluation of his elegant work on
Etiennette/Estefania/Stephanie, wife of William, Count of Burgundy.
In a 1960 article appearing in Annales de Bourgogne, he evaluated the
surviving sources, and focussed particularly on two contemporary ones that
appeared to illuminate the question. One of these indicated that Pope
Callixte (son of Etiennette) was of mixed parentage, one parent being
Burgundian, and the other from Lorraine. The second source mentioned a
Countess Ermesende of Longwy - taken to be the mother of Clemence, Countess of
Luxembourg, and wife of William VII of Aquitaine. Vajay was led to conclude
that these two women, apparently both of Lorraine but with Mediteranean names,
represented a single family group. At about this time Longwy was held by an
Adelbert, identified with the Duke of Lorraine, who was then tapped as father.
At the same time, the names Ermesende and Etiennette appeared in the family
of Bernard Roger, Count of Foix (another sibling was Raimond, a name which
Etiennette of Burgundy would give a son), so the mother of the Lorraine
Ermesende and Etiennette was hypothesized as another sibling in this family,
provisionally named Clemence (the name of daughters of both Ermesende and
Etiennette). Thus the question has stood for four decades (with only a few
historians dissenting). (Thus it has likewise appeared in secondary sources
which failed to indicate the hypothetical nature of the solution, from which
it has entered innumerable personal and public databases.)
In his new analysis, entitled "Parlons encore d'Etiennette" (pp. 2-6), Vajay
goes through his previous proof, and step by step he destroys it.
The first source, describing the parentage of Callixte, is now known not to
refer to the son of Etiennette, but to her grandson of the same name, who was
son of Louis of Montbeliard and Ermesende of Burgundy - parentage that matches
his described mixed origins. The other source can now be shown to refer not
to the mother of Clemence Countess of Luxembourg, but to her daughter
Ermesende who married Adelbert de Dabo - the Adelbert of Longwy mistakenly
associated with the Duke of Lorraine. Taken together, there is no longer any
support for a connection with Lorraine (and no reason to think that Duke
Adelbert married or had any issue at all). More critically, it becomes clear
that with these two pieces of evidence removed from relevance, there is no
contemporary source that bears dierctly on the question.
One recent author, A. Beau, approached the question by returning to the work
of Pere Anselme, who wrote that Etiennette was daughter of Raimond II of
Barcelona and his wife Sancha of Navarre. With minor modifications, this
possibility is attractive. The man Anselme appears to have had in mind was
Count Berenger I Raimond II, who married Sancha Sanchez of Castile. This
Berenger is now thought to have had a sister Etiennette (for whom he might
have named a daughter), while in his fourth wife (who Beau would make mother
of our Etiennette) we have Guisla of Lluca, for whom Etiennette would have
named her daughter Gisela, and this solution would also explain the use of
Raimond.
Vajay is, however, not entirely enthusiastic about this solution. First of
all, Beau's reasoning that Anselme's account was likely based on an accurate
tradition/source is belied by the fact that Beau then gives her a father
Berenger and mother Guisla (with Berenger's first wife, Sancha, being from
Castile), while Anselme had named them Raimond and Sancha of Navarre.
Likewise, this solution fails to explain the appearance of the name Clemence
(unknown among the Barcelona Counts, although Guisla's ancestry is not fully
characterized), while finally, there is the problem of the relationship
between Henry, Count of Portugal and Raimond, Count of Galicia (Etiennette's
son).
The word "congermanus" is used to describe the relationship between Henry
and Raymond. This word is usually used to refer to what we would now call
second cousins or even more distant relations, the children (or descendants)
of first cousins. By Vajay's old solution, this would be the case, both being
grandchildren's-grandchildren of Count Roger of Carcassonne, with Henry's
mother postulated as daughter of Berenger and Guisla. Moving Raimond's mother
to the same family renders the two Counts first cousins, which is too close.
(Vajay would now instead place Henry's mother as sister of Berenger, but the
problem remains.) This can not be simply dismissed by suggesting that
"congermanus" is being used somewhat atypically here to refer to first
cousins, since Raimond's sister Sybil married Henry's brother Eudes and a
marriage of first cousins (? once removed) certainly would have been
considered too close. In light of this, Vajay tends to dismiss this solution
as well.
He concludes by stating that the fate of his earlier theory should serve as
a warning about the uncertain nature of such arguments based more on
onomastics and hypothesis than direct proof. This is perhaps a good warning
with which to start this book, as the articles that follow derive from a group
of researchers that uses just such methods to reconstruct relationships among
family groups. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/26/2001-022926]
Regarding the proposal by A. Beau, that her father was Count Berenger
I Raimond II of Barcelona (who married Sanchez of Castille) and mother was
Guisla of Lluca (for whom Etienette would have named her daughter Gisela):
The problem of the relationship between Henry, Count of Portugal and Raimond,
Count of Galicia (Etiennette's son).
The word "congermanus" is used to describe the relationship between Henry
and Raymond. This word is usually used to refer to what we would now call
second cousins or even more distant relations, the children (or descendants)
of first cousins. By Vajay's old solution, this would be the case, both being
grandchildren's-grandchildren of Count Roger of Carcassonne, with Henry's
mother postulated as daughter of Berenger and Guisla. Moving Raimond's mother
to the same family renders the two Counts first cousins, which is too close.
(Vajay would now instead place Henry's mother as sister of Berenger, but the
problem remains.) This can not be simply dismissed by suggesting that
"congermanus" is being used somewhat atypically here to refer to first
cousins, since Raimond's sister Sybil married Henry's brother Eudes and a
marriage of first cousins (? once removed) certainly would have been
considered too close. In light of this, Vajay tends to dismiss this solution
as well. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/26/2001-022926]
Etienne's name is essentially found in Lyonnais and Auvergne. It can derive
from an unique gallo-Roman family, but this is not necessary since the cult
the proto-martyr St Etienne was very popular. I'm not wholly convinced that
one have to suppose another origin (i.e. papal) than his mother's name for the
name of Stephen of Burgundy. But I remain prudent neverthless.
For Etiennette's origin, several ways are possible. Szabolcs de Vajay and
myself have spent long hours to discuss it for the preparation of his paper. I
shall deal it in more detail in my forthcoming book on the Aquitanian family.
I give here only one of these possibilities:
Liedgarde of Auvergne, doubtless issued of an Etienne, is the mother of
Raimond Borel of Barcelona. Raimond Borel is the father of Berenger and
Etiennette, wife of Roger de Tosny and Garcia of Navarre.
One can suppose that Berenger is the father of (Clemence ?), wife of Henri
of Bourgogne and mother of Eudes Borel and his brother Henri. Berenger would
be also the brother of Clemence, wife of her cousin Bernard II of Bigorre.
Finally, Bernard II, father of Raimond, would be also the father of Ermensinde
of Aquitaine and our Etiennette.
Raimond, son of Etiennette, is Henri's ' congermanus ' because they are both
greatgrandsons of Raimond Borel of Barcelona. Etiennette calls her son Raimond
as her own brother, his daughter Clemence as her mother, another daughter,
Guisla, as her great-great-aunt Guisla, and probably another daughter, Sybilla
from some near relative (I don't know the origin of Sybilla's name ; M. Chaume
claims that the first Sybilla is a viscountess of Urgell, but the chart which
mentions this person is badly dated in the History of Languedoc and is much
later). [Ref: Christian Settipani SGM 5/7/2001-152746]
Pedigree of Stephanie Of Barcelona
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Borrel Count Of Ausone
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Sunifred Count Of Urgel
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Wilfred Count Of Barcelona
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Belio Count Of Carcassonne
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Ermensinde
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Suniario Count Of Barcelona
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Winidilds
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Borrell II Count Of Barcelona
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Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue
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Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse
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Senegauda
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Odon Count Of Toulouse
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Remigius
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Bertha
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Arsinde
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Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
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Ermengald Count Of Albi
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Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
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Richild Of Toulouse
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Adelaide
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Conrad I Of Burgandy, Count Of Auxerra
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Conrad II Duke Of Transjurand Burgandy
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Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Walrada
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Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
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Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue
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Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse
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Senegauda
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Odon Count Of Toulouse
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Remigius
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Bertha
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Arsinde
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Raymond II Count Of Toulouse
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Ermengald Count Of Albi
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Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
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Raimond Pons Count Of Toulouse
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Pons
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Gunhilde
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Warin Count Of Chalon
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Bernard Count Of Auvergne
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Aude
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(Unk Dau) Of Auvergne
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Lieugardis
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Luitgard
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Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue
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Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse
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Senegauda
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Odon Count Of Toulouse
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Remigius
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Bertha
| | | \-----
Arsinde
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Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
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Ermengald Count Of Albi
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Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
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Garsinde
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Adelaide
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Conrad I Of Burgandy, Count Of Auxerra
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Conrad II Duke Of Transjurand Burgandy
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Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Walrada
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Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
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Arnold I Count Of Carcassone
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Roger I Count Of Carcassone
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Belio Count Of Carcassonne
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Oliba I Count Of Carcassone
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Oliba II Count Of Carcassone
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Richilda
| | | | /-----
Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
| | | \-----
Arsinde Heiress Of Carcassone
| | | | /-----
Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse
| | | | /-----
Odon Count Of Toulouse
| | | | | \-----
Bertha
| | | | /-----
Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
| | | | | | /-----
Ermengald Count Of Albi
| | | | | \-----
Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
| | | \-----
Arsinde
| | | | /-----
Budwine Count Of Metz
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Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne
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Richilda
| | | \-----
Adelaide
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Conrad II Duke Of Transjurand Burgandy
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Walrada
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Ermisende
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Bernard I Count Of Melgueil
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Berenger Count Of Melgueil
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Bernard II Count Of Melgueil
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Guisle
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Adelaide Of Pons
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Belio Count Of Carcassonne
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Oliba I Count Of Carcassone
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Oliba II Count Of Carcassone
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Richilda
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Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
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Sonegonde
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Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse
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Odon Count Of Toulouse
| | | \-----
Bertha
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Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
| | | | /-----
Ermengald Count Of Albi
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Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
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Arsinde
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne
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Richilda
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Adelaide
| | /-----
Conrad II Duke Of Transjurand Burgandy
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Walrada
Stephanie Of Barcelona
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Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
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Guisle Of Lluca
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Ermendinde Of Balsareny
Descendants of Stephanie Of Barcelona
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