Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Idonea De SAY Death: Before 1384
  2. Joan De SAY Death: 29 Jun 1378
  3. Elizabeth De SAY Death: Before 15 May 1401
  4. Sir John De SAY Death: Before 29 Sep 1401
  5. Sir Thomas De SAY Death: After 29 Sep 1366
  6. William De SAY, Lord Say Birth: 17 Jun 1340 in Birling, Kent Death: Before 7 Aug 1375

Bibliography
  1. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages. London: Burkes, 1883. Reprinted: Baltimore: Genealogical Pub Co, 1978. (1985 printing) M-LH H 929.7 BUR 1985, also NYPL AWN 95-9586. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/246217. Another (which claims to also be the 1883 edition but is earlier 1866 edition) at http://archive.org/details/agenealogicalhi00burkgoog. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke DormantPeerages p[0-9]*].
  2. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 03 Canonteigh-Cutts. London: St Catherine Press, 1913. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 3 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo03coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP III [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  5. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  6. Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
  7. Richardson, Douglas, Death of Nicholas de Astley, 2nd Lord Astley. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/27/2018. Subject: C.P. Additions: Marriage dates of Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley [died c.1389] & Elizabeth de Beauchamp; and Geoffrey de Say, 2nd Lord Say [died 1359] & Maud de Beauchamp; Death of Nicholas de Astley, 2nd Lord Astley. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ii3DIJbh6WE/m/m6RweUAHAgAJ. Author address: celticprince at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/27/2018-165443].
  8. Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
  9. Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
  10. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
  11. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  12. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
  13. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  14. Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].
  15. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]
first son [Ref: CP XI p475],
parents:
[Ref: CP XI p475, Foss Judges p589, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p568],
father:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p1790, Sanders Baronies p98]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: CP XI p477, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570, Weis AR7 #86]
1359 [Ref: Sanders Baronies p98]
Sources with Information about marriage to Maud De BEAUCHAMP
date:
before Easter 1332 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/27/2018-165443]
first marriage of Maud [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p291, Weis AR7 #86],
names:
[Ref: Burke DormantPeerages p30, Clutterbuck Hertford v1p358, Sanders Baronies p98(2)],
child:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p1790, CP III p314, CP III p320, CP VI p493(f), CP XI p477, CP XI p478(g), Richardson PA p220, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p264, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p579, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570, Roberts RD600 p471, Weis AR7 #86]
Research Notes:
2nd Lord Say, of Barony cr 1313 [Ref: CP XI p475]
2nd Lord Say [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p264, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p579, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p568, Roberts RD600 p471, Weis AR7 #86]

Knt, of West Greenwich, Birling, Burham, Cudham, Deptford, and Patrixbourne, Kent, Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, Buxted and Hamsey, Sussex, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]

heir of his father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]

Knight-banneret [Ref: Weis AR7 #86]

Apr 1336: Admiral of the Fleet from the mouth of the Thames westward [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]
Admiral of the Fleet from the mouth of the Thames westward [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p264]
Admiral of the Fleet [Ref: Weis AR7 #86]

inherited Barony of West Greenwich from father [Ref: Sanders Baronies p97]

Keeper of the Chaces of Surrey, Sussex, Middlesex, and Bucks [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]

1354-9: Constable of Rochester Castle [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p570]



Pedigree of Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say
                                                                /-----William De SAY
                                                       /-----Jordan De SAY
                                                      |         \-----Agnes De GRANDMESNIL
                                              /-----William De SAY
                                             |        |         /-----Robert De RUMILLY, Baron Of Skipton
                                             |         \-----Lucy De RUMILLY
                                     /-----Geoffrey De SAY
                                    |        |                  /-----Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
                                    |        |         /-----William De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
                                    |        |        |         \-----Athelaise
                                    |         \-----Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
                                    |                 |         /-----Eudo De RIE, Dapifer
                                    |                  \-----Margaret RIE
                                    |                           \-----Rohais
                            /-----Sir Geoffrey De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
                           |        |                           /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
                           |        |                  /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
                           |        |                 |         \-----Matilda
                           |        |         /-----John De CHESNEY
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Hugh MAMINOT, Baron Of West Greenwich
                           |        |        |         \-----Alice MAMINOT
                           |        |        |                  \-----(Unk) PEVEREL
                           |         \-----Alice De CHESNEY
                           |                  \-----Sibil
                   /-----Sir William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
                  |        |                                    /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
                  |        |                           /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
                  |        |                          |         \-----Adeliza De CLERMONT
                  |        |                  /-----Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
                  |        |                 |         \-----Adeliza Le MESCHIN
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Lucia Of East Angies
                  |        |         /-----Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford, MC Surety
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Hasculf De St JAMES, Baron Of Field Dalling
                  |        |        |        |         /-----James De St HILARY, Baron Of Field Dalling
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Matilda
                  |        |        |         \-----Maud St. HILLARY
                  |        |        |                  \-----Aveline
                  |         \-----Hawise De CLARE
                  |                 |                           /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
                  |                 |                  /-----Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
                  |                 |         /-----William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Robert FITZ HAMOND, Lord Of Tewkesbury
                  |                 |        |         \-----Maud FITZ HAMOND
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Sybil De Montgomery
                  |                  \-----Amice MEULANT, Countess Of Gloucester
                  |                          |                  /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
                  |                          |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
                  |                          |        |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
                  |                           \-----Hawise DeBEAUMONT
                  |                                   |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
                  |                                    \-----Amicia De Gael
          /-----William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
         |         \-----Sibyl
 /-----Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say
|         \-----Elizabeth
Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say
|                                                      /-----(Unk) De LEYBURN
|                                             /-----Philip De LEYBURN
|                                    /-----Robet De LEYBURN
|                                   |        |                  /-----Gerold Marshal
|                                   |        |         /-----Robert Fitz Gerold
|                                   |         \-----Amy FITZGEROLD
|                                   |                 |         /-----Ralph De NOERS
|                                   |                  \-----Alice De NOERS
|                                   |                           \-----Agnes
|                           /-----Roger De LEYBURN
|                          |         \-----Margaret
|                  /-----Roger De LEYBURN
|                 |        |                           /-----John De TONG
|                 |        |                  /-----Robert De TURNHAM
|                 |        |         /-----Stephen De TURNHAM
|                 |         \-----Eleanor De TURNHAM
|                 |                 |                  /-----Oyne PURCEL
|                 |                 |         /-----Ranulf De BROC
|                 |                  \-----Edeline De BROC
|                 |                           \-----Damietta De GORAM
|         /-----William De LEYBURN, Lord Leyburn
|        |         \-----(Unk)
 \-----Idoine De LEYBURN
         |                  /-----Simon De SANDWICH
         |         /-----Sir Henry De SANDWICH
          \-----Juliane De SANDWICH
                  |                                             /-----Hugh Fitz William
                  |                                    /-----Hugh De Auberville
                  |                           /-----William De Auberville
                  |                          |         \-----Wimarca
                  |                  /-----Hugh De Auberville
                  |                 |        |                  /-----Hervey De GLANVILLE
                  |                 |        |         /-----Ranulph De GLANVILLE, Chief Justiciar Of England
                  |                 |        |        |         \-----Mabel
                  |                 |         \-----Maud De GLANVILLE
                  |                 |                 |         /-----Theobald De VALOINES, Lord Of Parham
                  |                 |                  \-----Bertha De VALOINES
                  |                 |                           \-----Helewise
                  |         /-----William De AUBERVILLE
                   \-----Joan De AUBERVILLE



Descendants of Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say
1. Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say m. Maud De BEAUCHAMP
m. Maud De BEAUCHAMP father: Sir Guy De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick mother: Alice De TOENI

2nd generation

2. Idonea De SAY m. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton
m. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton father: John CLINTON, Lord Clinton mother: Margarey CORBET
3. Joan De SAY m1. Sir William FIENNES m2. Stephen De VALOINES
m. Sir William FIENNES father: Sir John FIENNES mother: Maud De MONCEUX
m. Stephen De VALOINES
4. Elizabeth De SAY m. Thomas De ALDOUN
m. Thomas De ALDOUN father: Sir Thomas De ALDOUN
7. William De SAY, Lord Say m. Beatrice De BREWOSE
m. Beatrice De BREWOSE father: Sir Thomas De BREWOSE, Lord Brewose mother: Beatrice MORTIMER

3rd generation

8. Sir William CLINTON m. Elizabeth DEINCOURT
m. Elizabeth DEINCOURT father: Sir William DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt mother: Milicent La ZOUCHE
13. Sir William FIENNES m. Elizabeth BATISFORD
m. Elizabeth BATISFORD father: William BATISFORD mother: Margaret PEPLESHAM

4th generation

19. William CLINTON, Lord Clinton m1. Anne TRIVETT m2. Anne BOTREAUX m3. Mary
m. Anne TRIVETT father: Sir Thomas TRIVETT mother: Elizabeth LIMBURY
m. Anne BOTREAUX father: William BOTREAUX, Lord Botreaux mother: Elizabeth St LO
m. Mary
20. Sir Roger FIENNES m. Elizabeth HOLLAND
m. Elizabeth HOLLAND father: Sir John De HOLAND mother: Margaret
21. Sir James FIENNES, Lord Saye And Sele m1. Joan m2. Emiline CROMER
m. Joan
m. Emiline CROMER

5th generation

23. John CLINTON, Lord Clinton m1. Joan FERRERS m2. Margaret ST LEGER
m. Joan FERRERS father: Sir Edmund FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Chartley mother: Alienor De La ROCHE
m. Margaret ST LEGER father: John St LEGER mother: Margery DONET
24. Richard FIENNES, Lord Dacre m. Joan DACRE, Baroness Dacre
m. Joan DACRE, Baroness Dacre father: Sir Thomas DACRE mother: Elizabeth BOWET
26. Margaret FIENNES m1. Nicholas CAREW m2. John CARENT
m. Nicholas CAREW father: Nicholas CAREW mother: Isabel De La MARE
m. John CARENT
27. Elizabeth FIENNES m1. William CROMER m2. Alexander IDEN m3. Sir Laurence RAYNSFORD
m. William CROMER father: Sir William CROMER mother: Margaret SQUERY
m. Alexander IDEN
m. Sir Laurence RAYNSFORD father: William RAYNSFORD mother: Alianor De BROXBOURNE
30. William FIENNES, Lord Saye And Sele m. Margaret WYKEHAM
m. Margaret WYKEHAM father: William WYKEHAM mother: Joan