Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Hersent Of France
- Hildegardis
- Gisela
- Judith Birth: Abt 844
Death: After 870
- Louis II The Stammerer King Of France Birth: 1 Nov 846
Death: 10 Apr 879 in Compiegne
- Charles Duke Of Aquitaine Birth: Abt 847
Death: 29 Sep 866
- Carloman Birth: Abt 849
Death: 876
- Lothar Abbot Of St Germain Birth: Abt 850
Death: Dec 865
- Ermentrudis Birth: Abt 851
Death: After 877
- Rotrudis Birth: Abt 855
Death: After 912
- Pippin Birth: Before 866
Death: Before 866
- Drogo Birth: Before 866
Death: Before 866
Marriage:
Children:
- Rothaut Birth: Abt 870
- Rothildis Birth: Abt 871
Death: Abt 22 Mar 928
- Carlus Birth: 10 Oct 876
Death: 877
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- date:
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charl001 6/5/2008, HenryII louis000 8/16/2012, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
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#207],
- place:
- [Ref: ES I.1 #4, ES II #1, HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, Richardson
RoyalAnc v5p494, Weis AR7 #148],
- parents:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1, CMH p336, ES I.1 #4, HenryII charl001
6/5/2008, HenryII louis000 8/16/2012, Lyman ES-I-Corrections #2, Moriarty
Plantagenet p16, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494,
Settipani Capet #5, Watney WALLOP #207, Weis AR7 #148],
- father:
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9/19/1998, Stewart Baldwin SGM 3/14/2002-141143 (Munich manuscript), Tapsell
Dynasties p170]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- date:
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- 828 [Ref: Weis AR7 #49],
- mother:
- Irmengarde (#10842) [Ref: ES I #2]
Sources for death Information
- date:
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HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, HenryII louis000 8/16/2012, Moriarty Plantagenet
p16, Moriarty Plantagenet p233, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132, Richardson
RoyalAnc v5p494, Weis AR7 #148]
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Moriarty Plantagenet p23, Settipani Capet #7, Tapsell Dynasties p170, Watney
WALLOP #207, Weis AR7 #49],
- place:
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6/5/2008]
- Avrieux, Savoie [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
- Brides-les Bains/Savoyen [Ref: ES II #1]
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- place:
- [Ref: ES II #1]
- Nantua monastery, later St Denis [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
- Nantua, dann Saint Denis [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
Sources with Information about marriage to Ermentrude Of Orleans
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- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p109, HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, HenryII louis000
8/16/2012]
- 13 (or 14) Dec 842 [Ref: HenryII ermen103 8/2/2008]
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Plantagenet p16, Moriarty Plantagenet p233, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132,
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- Dec 842 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1]
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#4, Moriarty Europe1956 p44, Richard Borthwick SGM 9/19/1998],
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ES II #1, HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, HenryII judit002 5/23/2007, HenryII
louis001 8/16/2012, Moriarty Plantagenet p16, Paget HRHCharles p5, Redlich
CharlemagneDesc p132, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235, Richardson RoyalAnc
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p1]
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- date:
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8/16/2012]
- 12 Oct 869, confirmed 22 Jan 870 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
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- 22.XI 870 [Ref: ES I #2]
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p348],
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Settipani Capet #7]
Research Notes:
Emperor [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1, ES I.1 #4, HenryII charl001 6/5/2008,
HenryII louis000 8/16/2012, Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p73, Redlich CharlemagneDesc
p132, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494, Settipani Capet #5, Tapsell Dynasties p170,
Weis AR7 #148]
King of the Western Franks [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, HenryII louis000
8/16/2012, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
King of the Franks [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1, ES I.1 #4, Redlich
CharlemagneDesc p132, Wurts MCBarons p188]
King of (western) Lorraine [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
King of Italy [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
King of Neustria [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
Aug 829: Duke of Alemaniae [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
838-840: King of Neustria [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p494]
Sep 838: King of Newstrie [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
being the youngest son of emperor Louis I (who d. 840), much of the reign of
Charles involved a struggle with his brothers for fragments of the dismembered
empire, a struggle which was only partially settled by the Treaty of Verdun in
843, which gave Charles the western third of the empire [Ref: HenryII charl001
6/5/2008]
840x3-877: King of the Western Franks [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
840-877: King of the West Franks [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
840: King of France [Ref: Wurts MCBarons p188]
840-877: King of France [Ref: Tapsell Dynasties p170, Weis AR7 #148]
840/843: King of West Franks [Ref: ES I.1 #6]
843: King of West Franks [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1, ES I.1 #4]
843: King of France [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132]
848: King of Aquitain [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
869: King of Lorraine [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
869: King of Italy [Ref: ES I.1 #6]
870: following the death of his nephew king Lothair II of Lorraine, he
came to an agreement with his brother over the division of Lorraine [Ref:
HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
870-877: King of (western) Lorraine [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
Sep 875: King of Lorraine [Ref: ES I.1 #6]
875: having heard about the death of his nephew, the emperor Louis II king of
Italy, Charles advanced into Italy, where he received the submission of most
of the men of Italy. He then went to Rome where he was received by the pope at
St Peter's on 17 Dec. Crowned as emperor by pope John VIII on Christmas day,
875 [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
875-877: King of Italy [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p494]
875: King of Italy [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
875-877: Emperor [Ref: HenryII charl001 6/5/2008, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p494]
Emperor [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1]
Dec 25 875-877: Emperor [Ref: ES I.1 #4, Weis AR7 #148]
875: Emperor [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p132, Tapsell Dynasties p170, Wurts
MCBarons p188]
succeeded as king of France (but not as emperor) by his son Louis II [Ref:
HenryII charl001 6/5/2008]
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Europaische Stammtafeln I.1 #4 ("Die Karlinger I, 800-877 Kaiser, 768-877
Konige der Franken"):
Karl (Charles) der Karle (le Chauve) VIII 829 dux Alemanniae, IX 838 Kg v
Neustrien, 843 Kg v Westfranken, 848 Kg v Aquitanien, 869 Kg v Lothringen, 875
Kg v Italien, Rom 25.XII 875 Kaiser *Frankfurt/Main 13.VI 823 d. Avrieux,
Savoie 6.X 877 u. Nantua, dann Saint-Denis; m1 13.XII 842 Ermentrud *27.IX
(830) d. Saint-Denis 6.X 869 T v Gf Odo (v Orleans) u Ingeltrud; m2 22.I 870
Richildis v Metz d. 910/14 T v Gf Bovinus [Ref: ES I.1 #4]
Europaische Stammtafeln I.1 #6 ("Die Karlinger III, Konige von Westfranken
877-986, Herzoge von Niederlothringen 978-1012"):
Karl II der Kahle 838 Kg (v Newstrien), 840/43 Kg v Westfranken, 869 Kg v
Italien, IX 875 Kg v Lothrangen, 25.XII 875 Kaiser d. 6.X 877: children: by I:
Judith, Ludwig II, karl, karlmann, Lothar, Ermentrud, Hildegard, Gisela,
Rotrud, by II: Rothild, Drogo, Zwillinge, Pippin, Kind, Karl [Ref: ES I.1 #6]
Pedigree of Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
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Bodogisel Duke
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Saint Arnulf Bishop Of Metz
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Saint Ode
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Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
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Arnoldus Bishop Of Metz
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Dode
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Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
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Carloman Nobleman Of Austrasie
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Pepin Of Landen, Mayor Of The Palace
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Gertrude
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Saint Begga Of Landen
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Grimoalde Of Aquitaine
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Itta Idoberge Abbess Of Nivelles
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Saint Itte
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Childebrand
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Aupais
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Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
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Lambert I Nobleman Of Therouanne
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Chrodobertus MajorDomo, Count Palatine
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(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
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(Unknown) Of Echternach, Austrasien Nobleman
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Theodrada
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Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
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Chrotrudis
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Charlemagne King Of France
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Chrodobertus MajorDomo, Count Palatine
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(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
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Theodrada
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Chariveus Count Of Laon
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(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
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Alberic
| | | | /-----
Hubert Prince Of Bavaria
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Adele
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Irmina
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Theodard Bishop Of Liege
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Theodrada
| | | \-----
(Unk Dau)
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Caribert Count Of Laon
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Dagobert I King Of Franks
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Clovis II King Of Franks
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Nanthildis Queen Of Franks
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Theoderic III King Of Franks, King Of Burgundy
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Saint Bathildis
| | | \-----
Bertrade De Preum
| | | | /-----
Saint Arnulf Bishop Of Metz
| | | | /-----
Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
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Dode
| | | \-----
Dode
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Pepin Of Landen, Mayor Of The Palace
| | | \-----
Saint Begga Of Landen
| | | \-----
Itta Idoberge Abbess Of Nivelles
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Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
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Gisele
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Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
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Agilolf
| | /-----
Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
| | /-----
Leuthaire Duke Of Alemania
| | /-----
(Unk) Duke Of Alemania
| | | \-----
Acca Of Frioul
| | /-----
Godefrey Duke Of Alamannia
| | | | /-----
Willibald Patrice Of Burgundy
| | | \-----
(Unk) Of Burgundy
| | /-----
Houching Duke Of Alamannia
| | | | /-----
Garibald II Of Bavaria, Duke Of Bavaria
| | | | /-----
Theodon I Of Bavaria, Duke Of Bavaria
| | | | | \-----
Geila De FRIOUL
| | | \-----
(Unk Dau) Of Bavaria
| | | \-----
Gleisnod
| | /-----
Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
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Emma
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Hersuinde
Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
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Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
| /-----
Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
| /-----
Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
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Judith Of Bavaria
| /-----
(Unk) Saxon
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Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
Descendants of Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
2nd generation
3rd generation
4th generation
5th generation