Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris Birth: Abt 898
Death: 16 Jun 956 in Deurdan
Marriage:
Children:
- Emma Death: 935
- Hildebrante/Liegarde/Adela Birth: Abt 887
Death: After 931
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- 866 posthumously [Ref: ES II #10, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #53],
- parents:
- [Ref: ES II #10, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p63, Weis AR7 #48]
- Robert Le Fort & (Emma?) sister of Hugh the Abbot [Ref: DeSaintPhalle
Gatinais p243],
- father:
- [Ref: CMH p358, HenryII rober100 9/20/2015, HenryII rober101
2/23/2009, Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p69, Moriarty Plantagenet p9, Settipani Nobles
p196, Watney WALLOP #203]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- date:
- 855-60 [Ref: Settipani Capet #11],
- mother:
- (#14189) a sister of Count Adelhelm of Laon [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet
p9]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: ES I.1 #7, ES II #10, ES III.1 #49, HenryII rober100 9/20/2015,
HenryII rober101 2/23/2009, Moriarty Plantagenet p9, Redlich CharlemagneDesc
p63, Weis AR7 #101, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #53]
- 923 [Ref: CMH p358, Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p69, Settipani Capet #11, Watney
WALLOP #203, Watney WALLOP #207]
- after 922 [Ref: Settipani Nobles p196],
- place:
- [Ref: ES I.1 #7, ES II #10, HenryII rober101 2/23/2009, Moriarty
Plantagenet p9, Weis AR7 #53]
Sources with Information about marriage to Beatrix Of Vermandois
- date:
- first marriage of Robert [Ref: HenryII rober100 9/20/2015, HenryII
rober101 2/23/2009]
- um 890 [Ref: ES II #10]
- um 895 [Ref: ES I.1 #7, ES III.1 #49],
- names:
- [Ref: Settipani Capet #8, Watney WALLOP #207],
- child:
- [Ref: ES II #10, HenryII beatr001 2/23/2009, HenryII hugh1001
7/26/2008, HenryII rober101 2/23/2009, Moriarty Plantagenet p9, Settipani
Capet #11, Watney WALLOP #203, Weis AR7 #101, Weis AR7 #53]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- second marriage of Robert I [Ref: Weis AR7 #101, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7
#53],
- child:
- (of Beatrix) Emma (#24761) [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243]
- Hildebranda? (#10810), wife of Herbert II Count of Vermandois [Ref:
Moriarty Plantagenet p9]
Sources with Information about marriage to Aelis
- date:
- probably second marriage of Robert [Ref: HenryII rober100 9/20/2015]
- second marriage of Robert [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009],
- names:
- Robert I & Ne [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243, Settipani Capet #11],
- child:
- [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243, ES II #10, Roberts RD600 p562,
Roberts RD600 p565, Roberts RD600 p568, Roberts USPres p195, Settipani Capet
#11, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #50]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- first marriage of Robert I [Ref: ES II #10, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #50]
- first marriage of Robert [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243]
Research Notes:
King of France [Ref: CMH p358, HenryII rober100 9/20/2015, HenryII rober101
2/23/2009, Moncreiffe RoyalAnc p69, Settipani Capet #11, Tapsell Dynasties
p170]
King of the West Franks [Ref: ES I.1 #7, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #53]
Duke of France [Ref: Weis AR7 #101]
Count of Poitiers [Ref: Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #53]
Count of Paris [Ref: ES I.1 #7, HenryII rober101 2/23/2009, Weis AR7 #48, Weis
AR7 #53]
Count of Orleans [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
Count of Tours [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
Marquis of Neustria [Ref: CMH p358, HenryII rober100 9/20/2015, HenryII
rober101 2/23/2009, Settipani Capet #11, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #53]
Duke of Newstria [Ref: ES I.1 #7]
Abbot of Saint-Martin de Tours [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
Lay-abbot of Marmoutier [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
866: "adhuc parvulus" (still small) at his father's death in 866 [Ref: HenryII
rober101 2/23/2009]
884: count in Lorraine in the service of the emperor Charles the Fat [Ref:
HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
888: when Robert's elder brother Eudes became king of France, Robert succeeded
him as marquis of Newstria and other dignities [Ref: HenryII rober101
2/23/2009]
888: Marquis of Newstrie [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243]
This was a double marriage alliance concluded between King Robert and Herbert
II of Vermandois; Robert was married to Beatrice "in or by the late 890's"
(Andrew W. Lewis, _Royal Succession in Capetian France (Harvard, 1981), p.
11); Herbert II had married Robert's daughter by 907 (ibid.). This double
alliance strengthened the relationship of the two houses; the Vermandois
counts had previously supported the Carolingians (Charles the Simple) against
king Odo; but in 922 Vermandois supported Robert's succesful bid for the
throne. See also Jean Dunbabbin, _France in the Making, 843-1180 (Oxford,
1985), p. 95. [Ref: Nat Taylor SGM 11/4/1995-B]
898: when Eudes died, Robert recognized the Carolingien Charles the
Simple as king of France [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
898: Count of Paris [Ref: ES I.1 #7]
922: revolted against Charles, joined by his son Hugues and his son-in-law
Raoul, duke of Burgundy; in late June he was chosen king of France [Ref:
HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]
922: King of the Franks [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243]
Apr 29 922: King of West Franks [Ref: ES I.1 #7]
Jun 29 922: Crowned King of France [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p63]
922: chosen King of France [Ref: Weis AR7 #101]
922-3: King of France [Ref: CMH p358, Settipani Capet #11]
Jun 15 923: killed in battle [Ref: ES I.1 #7]
killed in battle about Jun 15 923 [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p63]
[that Beatrix de Vermandois, second wife of Robert I, was a descendant of
Charlemagne] should be treated as probably and not as certain. The evidence
that Robert married twice is not absolutely clear, and depends on
interpresation: the assumption of an unknown first wife is necessary to allow
for the proven marriage of his daughter to Count Heribert II of Vermandois IF
his supposedly second wife Beatrix, the mother of his son Hugo Magnus, was
sister to the latter as given only indicentally in a much later and not
especially well-informed source. Karl Ferdinand Werner patched together a
version of Robert's marriages that has stuck for the past 40 years, hinging on
his tendentious interpretation of a charter in which Hugh named his parents,
and that I think needs revision.... It can be equally well maintained that
Robert's first wife was Beatrix, of unknown family, mother of all his recorded
children, and that his second wife was a lady named Adela who _may_ have been
a Carolingian princess of the house of Vermandois [Ref: Peter Stewart SGM
1/30/2005-163735]
Pedigree of Robert I King Of France
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Chrodobertus MajorDomo, Count Palatine
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(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
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Theodrada
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Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
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Rupert I Count In Upper Rhine
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Turincbertus
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Adelhelm Count
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Williswint
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Rupert II Count In Wormgau
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Guiguin Rupert III Count In Wormgau
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Theoderata
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Rupert IV The Strong Count Of Tours
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Agilolf
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hadrian Lord In The Worms
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(Unk) Duke Of Alemania
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Godefrey Duke Of Alamannia
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(Unk) Of Burgundy
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Houching Duke Of Alamannia
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Theodon I Of Bavaria, Duke Of Bavaria
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(Unk Dau) Of Bavaria
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Gleisnod
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Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
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Emma
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Hersuinde
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Wialdruth
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Barnier
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Chariveus Count Of Laon
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(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
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Irmina
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Rolanda
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Theoderic III King Of Franks, King Of Burgundy
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Bertrade De Preum
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Dode
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Adalelmus
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Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
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Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
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Saint Begga Of Landen
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Childebrand
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Aupais
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Auda
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(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
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Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
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Chrotrudis
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Waldast
Robert I King Of France
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Adalric Duke Of Alsace
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Adelbert Duke Of Alsace
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Bereswinde
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Luitfriede I Duke Of Alsace
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Odon
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Gerlinde
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Alberic
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Hubert Prince Of Bavaria
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Adele
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Adele
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Theodard Bishop Of Liege
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Theodrada
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(Unk Dau)
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Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
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Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
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Hiltrude
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Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
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Ava
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