Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 01-20-2025.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.

Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.

Individual Page

Person Info

Name: Thistberge
Sex: F
Death: After 13 Apr 1013 ^d

Parents:

Father:
Gerald I Count Of Limoges Birth: Abt 910 Death: After 988

Mother:

Rothilda Birth: Abt 930 Death: After 1019

Family:
Marriage:

Artald II Count Of Lyons And La Forez on 1 .^m1
Artald II Count Of Lyons And La Forez Death: 11 Feb 1000

Children:

Girard II Count Of La Forez And Rokars Death: 5 Mar After 1050
Artaud III Count In The Lyonnais Death: Before 1017

Marriage:

Pons Count Of Gevaudan on 2 .^m2
Pons Count Of Gevaudan Birth: Abt 970 Death: Abt 1016

Children:

Etienne Bishop Of Clermont Death: 1013

Bibliography

Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, An eperiment in a cooperative online database for scholarly medieval genealogy. Contributors and Editors: Stewart Baldwin, Todd Farmerie, Peter Stewart. Available at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HenryII .*].
Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
Settipani, Christian, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien, Etudes sur quelques grandes familles d'Aquitaine et du Languedoc du IXe au XIe siecles. Oxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, 2004. NYPL JFG 04-785. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Nobles p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information

parents:: [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011]; dotted line to Geraud Vicount of Limoges & Rotilde [Ref: Settipani Nobles p237]

Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information

parents:: dotted line on chart, Hugo Count of Vienna (#21487) & Willa (#21488) [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p237, Moriarty Plantagenet p59]

Sources for death Information

date:: 9 Jun, year not stated, living 1010 [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011]; after 1013 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p237]; after 1018 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p66]; nach 13.IV 1013 [Ref: ES III.4 #737]

Sources with Information about marriage to Artald II Count Of Lyons And La Forez

date:: first marriage of Thiberge [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011],
names:: [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p237, Moriarty Plantagenet p59, Settipani Nobles p237],
child:: [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011, Moriarty Plantagenet p66]

Sources with Information about marriage to Pons Count Of Gevaudan

date:: second marriage of Thiberge [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011],
child:: [Ref: Settipani Nobles p55]

Research Notes:
possibly a sister of Umberto I Count of Maurienne [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p66]

Mar 1010: gave a manse to the monastery at Cluny for the souls of herself, her senior (i.e. husband) Artaud, and her sons Artaud amd Geraud [Ref: HenryII adela000 2/27/2011]

Pedigree of Thistberge
                            /-----Foucher
                   /-----Hildebert/Odelbert Vicomte De Limoges
          /-----Hildegar Vicomte De Limoges
         |        |                                             /-----Agilolf
         |        |                                    /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
         |        |                           /-----Ulrich I Count In The Orgengau
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
         |        |                          |         \-----Emma
         |        |                          |                  \-----Hersuinde
         |        |                  /-----Gerold
         |        |         /-----Gerald
         |        |        |         \-----Beletrude
         |         \-----Adeltrude
         |                 |                           /-----Emenon Count Of Cahors
         |                 |                  /-----Raoul Count Of Cahors
         |                 |         /-----Landeric Count Of Saintes
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Humbert I Count Of Bourges
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Embrion Count Of Aquitaine, Bishop Of Bourges
         |                 |        |         \-----Aiga
         |                  \-----Adaltrude
         |                          |         /-----Gerard Count Of Auvergne
         |                           \-----Hildesinde
         |                                   |                  /-----Gauzelin
         |                                   |         /-----Rorick Count Of Maine
         |                                   |        |         \-----Aldatrude
         |                                    \-----Adaltrude
         |                                            |         /-----Charlemagne King Of France
         |                                             \-----Rotrude
         |                                                      \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
/-----Gerald I Count Of Limoges
|        |                  /-----Boso Count Palatine Of Parthois
|        |         /-----Geraud Count Of Bourges
|         \-----Tetrisca/Fietberga
Thistberge
|         /-----Gui Count Of Berry
\-----Rothilda
         |                           /-----(Unk)
         |                  /-----Roger Count Of Maine
         |         /-----Hugh I Count Of Maine
         |        |        |                                    /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
         |        |        |                           /-----Charlemagne King Of France
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
         |        |        |                  /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
         |        |        |                 |                  \-----Emma
         |        |        |         /-----Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
         |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
         |        |        |        |         \-----Judith Of Bavaria
         |        |        |        |                 |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
         |        |        |        |                  \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
         |        |         \-----Rothildis
         |        |                 |                           /-----Richard Count Of Rouen
         |        |                 |                  /-----Richard Count Of Amiens
         |        |                 |         /-----Budwine Count Of Metz
         |        |                  \-----Richaut Of Metz
         |        |                          |                  /-----Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
         |        |                          |         /-----Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
         |        |                           \-----Richilda
          \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |                                    /-----Gauzelin
                  |                           /-----Rorick Count Of Maine
                  |                          |        |         /-----Humbert I Count Of Bourges
                  |                          |         \-----Aldatrude
                  |                  /-----Gausfred Count Of Maine
                  |                 |         \-----Bilihild
                  |         /-----Gauslen Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |                           /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
                  |        |        |                  /-----Hadrian Lord In The Worms
                  |        |        |                 |         \-----Emma
                  |        |        |         /-----Eudes Count Of Orleans
                  |        |        |        |        |         /-----Adalelmus
                  |        |        |        |         \-----Waldast
                  |        |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Orleans
                  |        |                 |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
                  |        |                 |         /-----Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
                  |        |                 |        |         \-----Rotrude
                  |        |                  \-----Engeltrude
                  |        |                           \-----Grimihild
                   \-----Bilichildis Of Maine

Descendants of Thistberge

1. Thistberge m1. Artald II Count Of Lyons And La Forez m2. Pons Count Of Gevaudan

m. Artald II Count Of Lyons And La Forez father: Geraud Noble In The Lyonnais mother: Gimberge

2+ Girard II Count Of La Forez And Rokars m. Adelaide

3 Artaud III Count In The Lyonnais

m. Pons Count Of Gevaudan father: Stephen De Brioude mother: Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou

4 Etienne Bishop Of Clermont

2nd generation

2. Girard II Count Of La Forez And Rokars m. Adelaide

5+ Artald V Count Of Forez m. Ida Raimonda

3rd generation

5. Artald V Count Of Forez m. Ida Raimonda

m. Ida Raimonda

6+ Ida Of Forez m1. Guigues Raymond Count Of Albons m2. Renaud II Count Of Nevers And Auxerre

7+ William III Count Of La Forez m. Wandilmode Of Beaujeu

4th generation

6. Ida Of Forez m1. Guigues Raymond Count Of Albons m2. Renaud II Count Of Nevers And Auxerre

m. Guigues Raymond Count Of Albons father: Guigues VII Count Of Grenoble And Albon mother: Agnes

8+ Guy I Count Of Lyon And Forez m. Alix/Maria Of Beaujeu

m. Renaud II Count Of Nevers And Auxerre father: William I Count Of Nevers mother: Ermengarde Of Tonnerre

9+ Ermengard De Nevers m. Miles Seigneur Of Courtenay

7. William III Count Of La Forez m. Wandilmode Of Beaujeu

m. Wandilmode Of Beaujeu father: Guichard II Lord Of Beaujeu mother: Riccaire Of Salornay

5th generation

8. Guy I Count Of Lyon And Forez m. Alix/Maria Of Beaujeu

m. Alix/Maria Of Beaujeu father: Guichard III De Beaujeu mother: Lucienne Of Rochefort

12+ Guy II Count Of Lyon And Forez m. Willelme

9. Ermengard De Nevers m. Miles Seigneur Of Courtenay

m. Miles Seigneur Of Courtenay father: Jocelin De Courtenay, Seigneur De Courtenay mother: Isabel De Montchery

13 William Seigneur Of Courtenay

14+ Renaud De Courtenay, Seigneur De Courtenay m1. Hedwig Du DONJON m2. (Unk)