Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders Birth: Dec 961
Death: 30 Mar 987
Marriage:
Children:
- Godfrey III Duke Of Lower Lorraine Death: 27 Sep 1023
- Gothelo I Duke Of Upper And Lower Lorraine Death: 19 Apr 1044
- Gerberge
- Frederick Count Of Verdon Death: 6 Jan 1022
- Regilla Death: 1 Feb 1050
- Herman Count In Eifelgau Death: 28 May 1029
- Ermentrude Death: 7 Mar After 1010
- Irmgard Of Verdun Death: 1042
- Adalbero Bishop of Verdun Death: 18 Apr 991
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: ES I #8, Moriarty Plantagenet p17, Redlich CharlemagneDesc
p235, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p496, Weis AR7 #162],
- father:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I.2 #202, ES II #5, HenryII arnul000
11/25/2007, HenryII baldw003 11/25/2007, HenryII godef002 4/5/2007, HenryII
herma000 4/3/2011, HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006, Jackman GermanCounties, John
Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998, Moriarty Plantagenet p126, Moriarty Plantagenet
p14, Paget HRHCharles p54, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p183],
- mother:
- possibly Oda or Hildesuith [Ref: HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- parents:
- Otto II (#11491) & Theophana (#11492) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #439,
Watney WALLOP #619]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: HenryII arnul000 11/25/2007, HenryII baldw003 11/25/2007, HenryII
gonzi000 4/5/2007, HenryII herma000 4/3/2011, HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p496]
- 1009 [Ref: HenryII godef002 4/5/2007]
- 25 May 1008 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I.1 #11, ES I.2 #202, ES II
#5, Moriarty Plantagenet p126, Moriarty Plantagenet p14, Moriarty Plantagenet
p17, Paget HRHCharles p54, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235, Weis AR7 #162]
- 25.VII 1008 [Ref: ES I #8],
- place:
- [Ref: ES I.1 #11],
- note:
- not 1008, rather 1009. see research notes for explanation of how this
error spread [Ref: HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: ES I.2 #202]
Sources with Information about marriage to Baldwin III Count Of Flanders
- date:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I #8, ES I.1 #11, ES II #5, Moriarty
Plantagenet p14, Moriarty Plantagenet p17, Paget HRHCharles p54, Richardson
RoyalAnc v5p496]
- about 961 [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235]
- first marriage of Matilda [Ref: ES I.2 #202, ES VI #127, HenryII
godef002 4/5/2007, HenryII herma000 4/3/2011]
- not long before 961 [Ref: HenryII baldw003 11/25/2007, HenryII mathi000
10/12/2006],
- child:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES II #5, HenryII arnul000 11/25/2007,
HenryII baldw003 11/25/2007, HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006, Moriarty Plantagenet
p14, Paget HRHCharles p54, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p183, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p496, Weis AR7 #162]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- names:
- Baldwin III Count Of Flanders & Maud (#11266) dau Conrad King of
Burgundy [Ref: Watney WALLOP #408]
Sources with Information about marriage to Godfrey Count Of Verdun
- date:
- 962 or later [Ref: HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006]
- 962-78 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p17]
- 962-79 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126]
- abt 963 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p496]
- nach 962 [Ref: ES VI #127]
- second marriage of Mathilde [Ref: HenryII herma000 4/3/2011]
- second marriage of Matilda [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I #8, HenryII
baldw003 11/25/2007]
- um 963 [Ref: ES I.1 #11, ES I.2 #202, ES II #5],
- names:
- [Ref: HenryII gonzi000 4/5/2007, Jackman GermanCounties, John Carmi
Parsons SGM 9/17/1998, Watney WALLOP #439],
- child:
- [Ref: ES I.2 #202, ES VI #127, HenryII frede001 4/5/2007, HenryII
godef002 4/5/2007, HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006, Moriarty Plantagenet p126,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p496, Watney WALLOP #619]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Adelheid (#11082) wife of Charles Duke of Lower Lorraine [Ref: Redlich
CharlemagneDesc p164]
Research Notes:
mother was possibly Oda. The often repeated claim that Hermann's wife was
named Hildegarde is based on a late source which is evidently confuing the
wifes of Hermann and Bernard. As for Hildesuith, the natural explanations for
her presence in the list (of women in Tabula gentis Billingorum) would be that
she was either an otherwise unknown second wife of Hermann, or an otherwise
unknown first wife of Bernhard. Given the similarily between the names
Hildesuith and Hildegard, the former possibility would give us an alternative
explanation for the rror of Chronicon sancti Michaelis Luneburgensis. As a
confirmed wife of Hermann, Oda would seem to make a more likely mother for
Matilde, but it would be difficult to rule out Hildesuith [Ref: HenryII
mathi000 10/12/2006]
date of death was 25 May 1009 (not 1008). Annales Blandinienses and
Annales Elmarenses, edited by Grierson, both give "Obiit Mathildis
comitissa Et contigit eclipsis solis IV kal Aprilis, luna existente XXVIII".
Gethmann's edition of Annale Blandinienses places both events in 1008;
Grierson does not comment on this difference (other than a general comment
that Bethmann has misplaced some annals), but the lunar data in the following
entry is consistent with 1009 and not with 1008, showing that Grierson's
placement of 1009 is correct [Ref: HenryII mathi000 10/12/2006]
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Europaische Stammtafeln I.1 #11 ("Die Billunger, Herzoge von (in) Sachsen d.
1106"):
Mathihlde d. Gent St Peter 25.V 1008; m1 961 Balduin III Gf v Flandern d. 1.I
962; m2 um 963 Gottfried d Gefangene 963/82 Gf v Verdun (Wigeriche) d. 3/4.IX
nach 995 u. Gent St Peter [Ref: ES I.1 #11]
Pedigree of Matilda Of Saxony
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