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  • Name: Emliane
  • Sex: F


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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Ebalus Bishop Of Limoges
  2. William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine Birth: Abt 925 Death: 3 Apr 963

Bibliography
  1. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES II #[0-9]*].
  2. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  3. Stewart, Peter, Origins of Emiliana unknown. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/21/2005. Subject: Edward The Elder to Robert The Pious. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Fy-qmJrKMcw/m/MkC3YR-J1gQJ. Author address: p_m_stewart at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Peter Stewart SGM 8/21/2005-034925].
  4. Farmerie, Todd, William Malmesbury account of daughters of Edward the Elder. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/21/2005. Subject: Edward The Elder to Robert The Pious. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Fy-qmJrKMcw/m/dmHrqX5rcpwJ. Author address: farmerie at interfold dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 8/21/2005-111924].
  5. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources with Information about marriage to Ebles Mancer Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
date:
911 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p26, Weis AR7 #144A]
vor II 911 [Ref: ES II #76],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p26, Weis AR7 #144A]
Research Notes:
The origin of Emiliana is unknown, and the link to Edward the Elder [as a daughter of Edward the Elder and Aelflaed] was an error of the 16th/17th century historian Jean Besly, who confused the wives of Ebles and his son & misinterpreted William of Malmesbury to reach this particular false conclusion. [Ref: Peter Stewart SGM 8/21/2005-034925]

while William of Malmesbury's account is the most complete, it appears to be flawed in some aspects.
AElgiva, daughter of Eadweard, is given by AEthelweard the Chronicler as having been sent to Germany with her sister Eadgyth, one (Eadgyth was selected) to be bride of the futute Emperor Otto I. The other, AElgiva, was married to a man "cuipiam regi iuxta Iupitereos montes" - a certain king near the Jupiter Mountains (Alps). William gives a similar account, but mistakenly reverses the names - AElgiva marries Otto, Eadgyth a 'duke' near the Alps.
Likewise, he gives a daughter Eadgifu, married to Louis, Prince of Aquitaine, a descendant of Charlemagne (Ludouico Aquitanorum principi de genre Karoli Magni). No such Louis is known at this time. This princess is only known from Malmesbury, and this entry in the Malmesbury account is problematic. It would involve Eadgifu, a supposed child of Eadweard's third marriage, being named for her mother, which was extremely uncommon (see other thread) among the Anglo-Saxons. It would also have involved the giving of the same name to two daughters, for which I know of no other examples (although we know a lot less daughters' names, and there are a couple of documented cases for two brothers having the same name). I have come to suspect that authentic and garbled versions a single daughter came down to William of Malmesbury separately, and that he did not recognize them as the same and hence recorded them as separate daughters. Thus Eadgifu, daughter of Eadweard and his second wife, who was married to Charles the Simple of France and mother of Louis IV 'prince' of Aquitaine, was the the root of this Eadgifu wife of Prince Louis.
Both of these daughters have served as targets for numerous genealogical hypotheses. In the case of the first, a broad range of men from Alsace to Bohemia have been tapped as the king near the Jupiter Mountains. In the second, there being no Louis of Aquitaine at the time, pretty much anyone named Louis or from Aquitaine has been dubbed. I have not seen Besly, but this theory appears to combine the two, giving the wife of Ebles, whose son would hold Aquitaine, the name of the bride of the duke near the Alps. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 8/21/2005-111924]



Pedigree of Emliane
Emliane



Descendants of Emliane
1. Emliane m. Ebles Mancer Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
m. Ebles Mancer Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine father: Ranulf II Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine mother: Irmgard

2nd generation

3. William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine m. Gerloc Of Normandy
m. Gerloc Of Normandy father: Hrolfr (Rollo) Duke Of Normandy mother: Poppa

3rd generation

4. William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine m. Emma Of Blois
m. Emma Of Blois father: Theobald I Le Tricheur Count Of Blois mother: Luitgarde De Vermandois
5. Adelaide Of Poitou m. Hugh Capet King Of France
m. Hugh Capet King Of France father: Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris mother: Hedwig Of Saxony

4th generation

7. William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine m1. Almodis Of Gervaudan m2. Sancha Of Gascone m3. Agnes Of Burgundy
m. Almodis Of Gervaudan father: Stephen De Brioude mother: Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
m. Sancha Of Gascone father: William Sancho Duke Of Gascogne mother: Urraca Of Navarre
m. Agnes Of Burgundy father: Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon mother: Ermentrude Of Roucy
8. Hedwig Of France m. Regnier IV Count Of Hainault
m. Regnier IV Count Of Hainault father: Regnier III Count Of Hainaut mother: Adele Of Louvain
9. Gisle Of France m. Hugh I Count Of Ponthieu
m. Hugh I Count Of Ponthieu father: Hugh
10. Robert II The Pious King Of France m1. Rosela Of Italy m2. Bertha Of Burgandy m3. Constance Of Provence
m. Rosela Of Italy father: Berengar II King Of Italy mother: Willa Of Aries
m. Bertha Of Burgandy father: Conrad The Peaceful King Of Burgundy mother: Matilda Of France
m. Constance Of Provence father: William I Count Of Aries And Provence mother: Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou

5th generation

12. Adelais Of Poitou m1. Gerard I Count Of Armagnac m2. Arnaldo II Vicount Of Lomagne
m. Gerard I Count Of Armagnac father: Bernardo I
m. Arnaldo II Vicount Of Lomagne
15. Beatrix Of Poitou m. Raymond I Count Of Melgueil
m. Raymond I Count Of Melgueil father: Bernard III Count Of Melgueil mother: Adele
16. Agnes Of Poitou, Duchess Of Bavaria m. Henry III The Black King Of Germany, Emperor
m. Henry III The Black King Of Germany, Emperor father: Conrad II The Salic King Of Germany mother: Gisele Of Swabia
17. William V Peter Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine m. Emisinde Of Longwy
m. Emisinde Of Longwy
18. William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou m1. Garsenda Of Perigord m2. Matilda De La Marche m3. Hildegarde Of Burgundy
m. Garsenda Of Perigord father: Andebert II Count Of Perigord mother: Asceline De Salagnac
m. Matilda De La Marche father: Aldebert I Count Of Perigord mother: Almodis Of Limoges
m. Hildegarde Of Burgundy father: Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy mother: Ermengarde Of Anjou
19. Regnier V Count Of Hainault m. Mathilde Of Verdun
m. Mathilde Of Verdun father: Herman Count In Eifelgau mother: Mathilde
21. Beatrix Of Hainault m1. Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy m2. Manassen The Bald Vidame Of Rheims
m. Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy father: Giselbert Count Of Roucy mother: (Unk Dau)
m. Manassen The Bald Vidame Of Rheims father: Gervase De Chatillon Vidame Of Rheims mother: Adelgonda
22. Enguerrand I Count Of Ponthieu m. Adela Of Holland
m. Adela Of Holland father: Arnulf Count Of Holland And Ghent mother: Luitgard Of Luxembourg
24. Alvais Of France m. Renaud I Count Of Nevers
m. Renaud I Count Of Nevers father: Laundry III Seigneur De Maers And De Monceau mother: Matilda Of Burgundy
26. Henry I King Of France m1. Mathilde m2. Mathilde Of Friesland m3. Anne Of Kiev
m. Mathilde father: Conrad II The Salic King Of Germany mother: Gisele Of Swabia
m. Mathilde Of Friesland father: Liudolf (Ludwig) Margrave Of Westfriesland mother: Gertrudis
m. Anne Of Kiev father: Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev mother: Ingegard
27. Adelaide Of France m1. Richard III Duke Of Normandy m2. Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
m. Richard III Duke Of Normandy father: Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy mother: Judith Of Brittany
m. Baldwin V Count Of Flanders father: Baldwin IV The Bearded Count Of Flanders mother: Ogive Of Luxembourg
28. Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy m1. Helle Of Semur En Auxois m2. Ermengarde Of Anjou
m. Helle Of Semur En Auxois father: Dalmus I Of Semur En Auxois mother: Aremburge De Vergy
m. Ermengarde Of Anjou father: Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou mother: Hildegarde Of Metz