Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Archambaud Archbishop Of Sens Death: 29 Aug 967
- (Unk Dau) Of Troyes Birth: Abt 945
- Adele Of Troyes Birth: Abt 945
Death: After 6 Mar 974
- Herbert III Count Of Meaux And Troyes Birth: Abt 950
Death: 28 Jan 995
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008, HenryII gisel103 4/24/2008,
Moriarty Plantagenet p10, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p485, Weis AR7 #118],
- father:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p4, ES I.1 #7, ES II #189 (as replaced in
III.1), ES III.1 #116, ES III.1 #49, ES III.3 #433, HenryII herib002
1/24/2011, HenryII rober005 5/23/2007, Moriarty Plantagenet p6, Paget
HRHCharles p139, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p269],
- name:
- Adelaide (Wera) [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p4]
- Adelaide alias Werra [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008, HenryII gisel103
4/24/2008]
- Adelheid or Wera [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p269]
- Werra [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p10, Moriarty Plantagenet p6]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- after 967 [Ref: HenryII herib002 1/24/2011]
- after Aug 967 [Ref: ES I.1 #7]
- living Aug 967 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p485]
- prob after 19 Jun 966 [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008]
Sources with Inaccurate death Information
- date:
- after Aug 959, before Jun 960 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p4]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert Count Of Troyes
- date:
- 942x950 [Ref: HenryII herib002 1/24/2011]
- before 18 Jun 950 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p485]
- before 950 [Ref: ES I.1 #7, ES II #189 (as replaced in III.1), ES III.1
#49]
- between 11 Dec 942 and 18 Jun 950 [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008,
HenryII rober005 5/23/2007]
- first marriage of Adelaide [Ref: ES III.1 #116, ES III.3 #433],
- names:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p118, HenryII gisel103 4/24/2008],
- child:
- [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p4, ES I.1 #7, HenryII adela001 4/24/2008,
HenryII adele001 4/24/2008, HenryII rober005 5/23/2007, Moriarty Plantagenet
p6, Paget HRHCharles p139, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p269, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p485, Roberts RD600 p562, Roberts RD600 p565, Roberts RD600 p568, Roberts
USPres p195, Settipani Capet #8, Weis AR7 #118]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- second marriage of Adelaide [Ref: ES II #189 (as replaced in III.1), ES
III.1 #116, ES III.1 #49, ES III.3 #433],
- names:
- Lambert Count of Chalons (#18099) & Adelaide [Ref: ES II #189 (as
replaced in III.1), ES III.1 #116, ES III.1 #49, ES III.3 #433]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- 2 or 9 Mar 979 [Ref: ES III.1 #49, ES III.3 #433]
- 20 or 9 Mar 979 [Ref: ES III.1 #116]
- third marriage of Adelaide [Ref: ES II #189 (as replaced in III.1)],
- names:
- Geoffroy Grisgonelle (#10805) & Adelaide [Ref: ES II #189 (as replaced
in III.1), ES III.1 #116, ES III.1 #49, ES III.3 #433, Todd Farmerie SGM
5/22/1997-010102],
- child:
- Maurice (#23752) [Ref: ES III.1 #116]
Research Notes:
11 Dec 942: appears in a charter with her parents [Ref: HenryII adela001
4/24/2008]
between 19 Jun 949 and 18 Jun 950: Robert appears as a witness to a
charter of Giselbert [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008]
6 Aug 959: signed, along with her husband Robert and son Heribert in an
act at Troyes [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008]
survived her husband, and appears with Robert's brother count Heribert in a
fragment of the cartulary of Montieramey [Ref: HenryII adela001 4/24/2008]
falsely attributed daughter or sister, and falsely attributed identification:
Adelaide, m(1) Lambert Count of Chalon, m(2) Geoffroy I Grisegonelle Count of
Anjou (with pointer to HenryII pages adela003 and gisel103) [Ref: HenryII
adela001 4/24/2008]
Adelaide dau of Duke Giselbert appears with her husband Robert of Troyes and
son Heribert in a charter of 949. There is no problem with this. The
difference of opinion is whether this Adelaide is the same as the wife of
Lambert who later married Geoffrey. Most historians have shied away from
making this assumption, eg Maurice Chaume (who was otherwise much given to
speculation) in his 'The Origins of Burgundy' 1925, Werner in an article in
Die Welt als Geschicht, 1960, p107-13 (especially p111), and more recently
Constance Bouchard, 'Sword and Mitre'.
To make them one person does create problems, not least with the chronology.
Adelaide was old enough to have children by about 950 (for she had a grandson
Fulk the Black by c.970), yet she was still young enough to have children (eg
Maurice) c.980 or later. Its possible, but only just. I don't know how common
it was for noblewomen to give birth after 40.
Secondly if she only married Lambert after 967, then any children from that
marriage could not have been born before that. But Adalbert of Italy first
husband of Gerberga had died by 975 at the latest, and Otto-William was their
son. So clearly if one accepts that Adelaide was one person, one has to find
different parents for Gerberga. Some have got round this by making Gerberga a
daughter of Lambert by an earlier wife. As Lambert first appears in 944, and
is called count in 959, this may not be impossible. [Ref: Matman SGM
5/21/1997-192712]
Pedigree of Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Childebrand I Duke Of Provence
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Niebelung I Historian, Lord Of Perrency
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Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye
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Childebrand III Lord Of Perrency
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Barnier
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Rolanda
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Bertha
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Auda
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Chrotrudis
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Thierry The Treasurer Count Of The Autonois
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Barnier
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Rolanda
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Thiery Count In Riparia
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Auda
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Chrotrudis
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Dunna
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Thierry II Count In The Chamois
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Manasses I Count Of Vergy, Duxin, And Chalons
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Hieronymus Count
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Richard Count Of Rouen
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Ercheswindis
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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(Unk Dau)
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Boso I Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Giselbert Duke Of Burgandy
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Hieronymus Count
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Richard Count Of Rouen
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Ercheswindis
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Boso Of Vienne, King Of Provence
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Boso I Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Ermengarde
Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Ermengarde Of Burgandy
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