Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- (Unk dau) Of Chateaudun
- Hugo Count Of Chateaudun, Archbishop Of Tours Birth: Abt 950
Death: 10 Jun 1023
- Adalaud Seigneur De Chateau-Chinon Birth: Abt 955
Death: Before 1012
- Fulk Count Of Perche Birth: Abt 955
Death: Before 1003
Bibliography
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de Saint-Phalle, Edouard, Les comtes de Gatinais aux X et XI siecles, in Settipani and Keats-Rohan, Onomastique et Parente dans l'Occident medieval, Uxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, Linacre College, 2000. NYPL JFD 03-2300 (advance request needed). Information from this source tagged as [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p[0-9]*].
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The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, An eperiment in a cooperative online database for scholarly medieval genealogy. Contributors and Editors: Stewart Baldwin, Todd Farmerie, Peter Stewart. Available at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HenryII .*].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Count Hugh II and Origins of Angevins in Maine, in Family Trees and the Roots of Politics, K.S.B.Keats-Rohan, ed, Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 1997. NYPL APC 97-11385. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan Maine p[0-9]*].
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Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
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Settipani, Christian, Counts of Anjou and their alliances X and XI centuries, in Family Trees and the Roots of Politics, K.S.B.Keats-Rohan, ed, Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 1997. NYPL APC97-11385. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Anjou p[0-9]*].
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Settipani, Christian, Les vicomtes de Chateaudun et leurs allies. In Settipani and Keats-Rohan, Onomastique et Parente dans l'Occident medieval, Oxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, Linacre College, 2000. NYPL JFD 03-2300 (advance request needed). Early version in Keats-Rohan, Prosopon 10, Apr 1999, http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/prosopon/issue10-4.pdf; but note that several of the conclusions from the 1999 preliminary version of the article were revised in the 2000 version. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun [pIV]*].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- abt 935 [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249, Settipani Chateaudun p253,
Settipani Chateaudun p261],
- parents:
- [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p245]
- Herbert I Count of Perche & dau Gausfred Count of Nevers [Ref:
Settipani Chateaudun p258],
- father:
- conjectured father (possible) Herve I [Ref: HenryII hilde002
1/24/2011]
- dotted line on chart [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p261],
- mother:
- dau Gausfred Count of Nevers [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249],
- brother:
- conjectured (dubious) Herve II [Ref: HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011],
- grandfather:
- (conjectured) Hugh I [Ref: HenryII hugh0001 1/10/2008]
- Hugh I Count of Maine [Ref: Keats-Rohan Maine p194]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- parents:
- probably Theobald The Cheat Count of Blois (#11270) & Luitgarde
(#11271) [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p48]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 14 Apr, 1005 or later [Ref: HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011]
- abt 1020 [Ref: Settipani Anjou p262, Settipani Chateaudun p249,
Settipani Chateaudun p253]
- after 1005 [Ref: HenryII geoff006 1/24/2011]
- after abt 1020 [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p261]
- occ 1008 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p48]
Sources with Information about marriage to Gausfred Vicount Of Chateaudun
- names:
- [Ref: HenryII hugh0001 1/10/2008, Keats-Rohan Maine p194, Watney WALLOP
#5]
- (or parents-in-law) Gausfred & Hildegarde [Ref: HenryII fulco000
1/27/2011]
- Hugh (sic) Vicount of Chateaudun & Hildegarde of Perche [Ref:
DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p245],
- child:
- [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p245, HenryII fulco000 1/27/2011, HenryII
geoff006 1/24/2011, HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011, Moriarty Plantagenet p48,
Settipani Anjou p262, Settipani Chateaudun p249, Settipani Chateaudun p253,
Settipani Chateaudun p258, Settipani Chateaudun p261]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Melsende (#14313) wife of Fulcois Sengienr of Nogent [Ref:
DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p245, Watney WALLOP #5]
Research Notes:
Viscountess of Chateaudun [Ref: HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011]
known to be sister of Gerberga [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p256]
980: witnessed a doation to Saint-Florent de Saumur by her sister
Gerberge, wife of Gelduin de Saumur [Ref: HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011]
between 1005 and 1023, viscountess Hildegarde mentions her son archbishop
Hugues, with witnesses including Feoffroy, nepos of archbishop Hugues, and
Helgaud, son of the archbishop [Ref: HenryII hilde002 1/24/2011]
No early source gives the parentage of Hildegard. However, a number of
conjectures have appeared regarding her origin [Ref: HenryII hilde002
1/24/2011]
The husband of Hildegard is not identified in the early sources. Since she is
explicitly called viscountess of Chateaudun in the 1005x23 charter in which
she mentions her son archbishop Hugues, she was married to a viscount of
Chateaudun, but which one? Most early modern sources identify her as the wife
of a viscount Hugues:
Supposed husband: Hugues (I), viscount of Chateaudun. (existence as a
person distinct from archbishop Hugues of Tours is improbable) Doyen and
Bordas make viscount Hugues I the the second husband of Hildegarde and the
stepfather of archbishop Hugues [Doyen (1786), 1: 239; Bordas (1850), 107-8].
Romanet, Cuissard, and Saint-Phalle have viscount Hugues I up to in or before
989, and then viscount Hugues II, later archbishop [Romanet (1890-1902), 30
(table), 37-9, 44-5 (table); Cuissard (1894-6), 33, 120 (table); Saint-Phalle
(2000), 245 (table 6)].
This interpretation of the sources is understandable. The short chronicle
of Bonneval mentions viscount Geoffroy and his wife Ermengarde and his/their
son Hugues ["Deinde extitit quidam vicecomes Castrodunensis, Gaufridus nomine,
qui, pro redemptione anime sue et uxoris, Hermengardis nomine, ... Similiter
filius suus, nomine Hugo, ..." Petite Chron. Bonneval, 33]. Here, the
ambiguity of suus allows the natural interpretation that Hugues was a son of
both Geoffroy and Ermengarde, which in turn would seem to imply that there was
a viscount of Chateaudun named Hugues in the last half of the tenth century
who was distinct from archbishop Hugues, making this supposed viscount Hugues
an obvious candidate as the husband of Hildegarde.
On the other hand, even though we do not have direct proof that the records
of a viscount Hugues between 989 and 1003 all refer to the same man, we also
have no good reason to believe that they refer to more than one person.
Indeed, there is good reason for identifying this viscount Hugues of
Chateaudun with archbishop Hugues of Tours. The viscount Hugues of Chateaudun
who appears between 996 and 1001 was also dean of Saint-Maurice de Tours ["...
ego Hugo, Sancti Mauricii decanus, favente Dei gratia, et vicecomes
Castridunensis, ..." Lex (1892), 132-3 (Pieces justificatives #7)], clearly
suggesting that he was the same man as the later archbishop. Also, the fact
that the archbishop had a son [see, e.g., Hildegard's charter above] indicates
that he may have had a secular career before joining the church. Furthermore,
we know that the Hugues who was viscount about the year 1000 was the son of a
viscount Geoffroy ["Hugonis vicecomitis qui in honorem patri sui Gausfredi
scilicet vicecomitis" Settipani (1997), 260 & n. 239, citing Coll. Tour.-Anj.,
#308 (not seen by me)].
In addition, the probable appearance of Hildegard as viscountess in 980
(assuming that this was the same person) would argue strongly against
Hildegard's husband being a viscount Hugues, for we find viscount Geoffroy
witnessing charters both before and after that date, suggesting that he was
her husband. She would be unlikely to use the title of viscountess until after
her husband had acquired that title, and in 980, the succession of a viscount
Hugues to the title was apparently several years in the future.
Thus, the sources other than the short chronicle of Bonneval would appear
to give a consistent picture of a viscount Geoffroy (bef. 967 - aft. 985), his
wife Hildegarde, and their son the viscount and archbishop Hugues. Against
this, we have the account of that chronicle with viscount Geoffroy and his
wife Ermengarde and son Hugues. Murs states that Hildegarde may have been the
same as Ermengarde [Murs (1856), 120], and the same suggestion is made by
Settipani [Settipani (1997), 261 & n. 252]. In fact, the most likely
explanation of the entry in the short chronicle of Bonneval (a late text with
many faults) is that Hildegarde's name was accidently mistranscribed
as Hermengardis at some point in the transmission. Other possible, but much
less likely, explanations would be that Ermengarde was an earlier wife of
Geoffroy or that there was more than one Geoffroy involved. [Ref: HenryII
hilde002 1/24/2011]
Supposed earlier husband (uncertain): Arnaud de la Ferte.
According to a number of sources, Hildegard was married first to a certain
Arnaud de la Ferte, and then to viscount Hugues of Chateaudun [Doyen (1786),
1: 239; Bordas (1850), 107-8; Romanet (1890-1902), 38 n. 6, 44-5 (table);
Cuissard (1894-6), 34, 120 (table)]. According to some of these sources, it
was by this alleged first marriage that Hildegarde had Hugues, archbishop of
Tours [Doyen (1786), 1: 239; Bordas (1850), 107-8]. Cuissard makes Arnaud the
father of Alo and the wife of Albert, abbot of Micy [Cuissard (1894-6), 120
(table)]. Without knowing the evidence on which this is based, it is hard to
judge the likelihood of this supposed earlier marriage, but in the absence of
confirming evidence, it seems best to doubt it. [Ref: HenryII hilde002
1/24/2011]
In addition to archbishop Hugues, Alo de Chinon, and the wife of abbot Albert,
Hildegarde appears to have had another child, gender uncertain, a parent of
Geoffroy (II), viscount of Chateaudun, who was assassinated in about 1038 or
1039, ancestor of the counts of Perche. Unfortunately, the uncertain and
indirect nature of the evidence leaves plenty of opportunities for the scholar
to stumble. As shown by the 1005x23 charter of Hildegarde, her son, archbishop
Hugues of Tours, had a nepos, Geoffroy, who appears to have been the same
person as Geoffroy (II), viscount of Chateaudun (d. 1038x9). The most obvious
interpretation of the word nepos (usually "nephew") would then make Hildegarde
a grandmother of Geoffroy, and the natural question is then to determine the
identity of the intervening generation.
Geoffroy's mother was named Melisende, but there have been different
theories about the identity of his father. Some have supposed that Geoffroy
was the son of another viscount Geoffroy who was a son of Hildegarde. However,
the most likely possibility is that the father of Geoffroy was the count
Fulcois who is called the avus ("grandfather") of Geoffroy's son Rotrou in one
document. Even if this is accepted, it is not clear whether it was Fulcois or
Melisende who was a child of Hildegarde. Thus, we have the three candidates
listed below for the intervening generation. Obviously, at most one of the
following three options could be true.
Possible daughter: Melisende, living 1031x2; prob. m. Fulcois, count [of
Mortagne?].
Possible son: Fulcois, count [of Mortagne?]; prob. m. Melisende, living
1031x2.
Supposed son (existence as a person distinct from Geoffroy son of Melisende
is questionable): Geoffroy, viscount of Chateaudun; said to have m. Melisende,
living 1031x2.
The viscount of Chateaudun was named Geoffroy between 1003x4 and ca. 1038x9.
In the unlikely event that there were two viscounts of that name during this
period, the elder of them would have presumably been Melisende's husband, in
which case Fulcois would fit into the family in some other way. [Ref: HenryII
hilde002 1/24/2011]
Pedigree of Hildegarde Of Perche
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(Unk)
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Roger Count Of Maine
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Hugh I Count Of Maine
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
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Chrotrudis
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Charlemagne King Of France
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Caribert Count Of Laon
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Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
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Gisele
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Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
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Agilolf
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
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Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
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Emma
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Hersuinde
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Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
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Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
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Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
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Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
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Judith Of Bavaria
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(Unk) Saxon
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Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
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Rothildis
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Hieronymus Count
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Richard Count Of Rouen
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Ercheswindis
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Richard Count Of Amiens
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Budwine Count Of Metz
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Richaut Of Metz
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Boso I Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
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Richilda
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Herbert I Count Of Perche
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Gauzelin
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Rorick Count Of Maine
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Godefried
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Humbert I Count Of Bourges
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Aldatrude
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Gausfred Count Of Maine
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Bilihild
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Gauslen Count Of Maine
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Agilolf
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hadrian Lord In The Worms
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Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
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Emma
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Hersuinde
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Eudes Count Of Orleans
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Adalelmus
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Auda
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Waldast
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(Unk Dau) Of Orleans
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Girard Count Of Paris
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Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
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Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
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Rotrude
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Engeltrude
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Grimihild
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Bilichildis Of Maine
Hildegarde Of Perche
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Gauzelin
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Rorick Count Of Maine
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Godefried
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Humbert I Count Of Bourges
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Aldatrude
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Gausfred Count Of Maine
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Bilihild
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Gausfred
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Agilolf
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Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
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Hadrian Lord In The Worms
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Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
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Emma
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Hersuinde
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Eudes Count Of Orleans
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Adalelmus
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Auda
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Waldast
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(Unk Dau) Of Orleans
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Girard Count Of Paris
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Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
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Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
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Rotrude
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Engeltrude
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Grimihild
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Gausfred Count Of Nevers
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Millisent Of Nevers
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Hector Noble Of Arverne
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Aba
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Barnier
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Rolanda
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Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania
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Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
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Auda
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Chrotrudis
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Bernard Marquis Of Septimania
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Gui Abbot Of Fontenelle
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Lambert Lord Of Hornbach
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Chrolanda
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Guibour
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Bernard Plantevalus Count Of Autun, Marquis Of Toulouse
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Loup Duke Of The Gascons
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Sancho Loup Duke Of The Gascons
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Fruela King Of Asturias
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(Unk Dau) Of Asturias
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Dhunde Of Gascony
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Galindo Count
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(Unk) Galindez
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Aba Abbess Of Sauxillanges
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Warin Count Of Chalon
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Bernard Count Of Auvergne
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Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
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Theudoin Count Of Autun
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Auda
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Aude
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Ermengard
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Lieugardis
Descendants of Hildegarde Of Perche
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