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Marriage: Children:
  1. Thiery Count In Riparia Death: 793
  2. Adalelmus Birth: Abt 745 Death: After 804
  3. Theudoin Count Of Autun Birth: 740 Death: After 826
  4. Bertha Birth: 750 Death: After 804
  5. Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania Birth: Abt 751 Death: 28 May Abt 812 in Gellone

Bibliography
  1. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
  2. Moriarty, G Andrews, Genealogical Research in Europe, NEHGR v109 (Jul 1955) pp174-182. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Europe1955 p[0-9]*].
  3. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  4. Settipani, Christian, Counts of Anjou and their alliances X and XI centuries, in Family Trees and the Roots of Politics, K.S.B.Keats-Rohan, ed, Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 1997. NYPL APC97-11385. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Anjou p[0-9]*].
  5. Settipani, Christian, La prehistore des Capetiens: 481-987. Villeneue d'Asacq: P. Van Kerrebrouck, 1993. NYPL ASF (Capet) 94-7243. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Capet [p#][0-9]*].
  6. Settipani, Christian, Les Ancetres de Charlemagne. Paris: Editions Christian, 1989. ILL Univ of Virginia CS25.S47 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani CharlAnc p[0-9]*].
  7. Settipani, Christian, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien, Etudes sur quelques grandes familles d'Aquitaine et du Languedoc du IXe au XIe siecles. Oxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, 2004. NYPL JFG 04-785. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Nobles p[0-9]*].
  8. Taylor, Nathaniel, Saint William, King David, and Makhir. TAG vol 72 (Jul/Oct 1997), pp205-223. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Taylor Makhir p[0-9]*].
  9. Farmerie, Todd, Ancestry of Teresa, Queen of Portugal, Parts 1/2/3. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/15/1997. Subject: Ancestry of Teresa, Queen of Portugal, Part 1/3. Apparently not archived by Google Groups. Author address: taf2 at po dot cwru dot edu. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 12/15/1997-134501].
  10. Wagner, Anthony, Pedigree and Progress, Essays in the Genealogical Interpretation of History, London, Philmore, 1975. Rutgers Alex CS4.W33. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress p[0-9]*].
  11. exet0133, Aldana, wife of Thierry comte d'Autun. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/6/1996. Subject: Aldana, wife of Thierry comte d'Autun. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/9sccmBASX1U/m/ezKru5JzYkEJ. Author address: exet0133 at SABLE dot OX dot AC dot UK. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: exet0133 SGM 8/6/1996].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
[Ref: Settipani Capet p345],
parents:
dotted line on chart, Bernier & Rolanda [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p232]
dotted line to Bernier & Rolanda [Ref: Settipani CharlAnc p31]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
date:
abt 745 [Ref: Settipani Anjou p247],
father:
dotted line to Theoderic, "temoin Prum 721", dotted line son of Bernhar and Chrodlindis [Ref: Settipani Capet p176]
Sources for death Information
date:
756 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p232]
before 804 [Ref: Settipani Anjou p247, Settipani Capet p345]
occ 756 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p215]
vor 804, occ 755 [Ref: ES III.4 #731]
Sources with Information about marriage to Auda
names:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p216, Moriarty Plantagenet p220, Settipani Capet #4],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Europe1955 p179, Moriarty Plantagenet p215, Moriarty Plantagenet p232, Settipani Capet p176, Settipani Capet p221, Settipani Nobles p8, Taylor Makhir p219, Todd Farmerie SGM 12/15/1997-134501]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Aude (#22573) wife of Warin Count of Chalon [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p215]
Research Notes:
Count of Autun (Comes Eduensis) [Ref: ES III.4 #731]
742-750: Count, place not specified [Ref: Settipani Capet p176]

756: Count of Autun under Pepin le Bref [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p215]

possibly identical with Makhir, a jewish prince of the house of David. Zuckerman quotes from a twelfth century addition to the work of Abraham ibn Daud, the statement that Charlemagne, who exchanged embassies with the Caliph Harun-al-Rashid in 797 and 801, asked the Caliph to send him a Jewish prince of the house of David and was sent by him one Makhir, who became ancestor of a dynasty of Exilarchs. Zuckerman conjecturally identifies Makhir with Natronai ben Havivai, the exiled descendant of Bustanai. Professor Kelley regards the identity of Makhir and Theuderic as vertually certain, but that of Makhir with Natronai as much more doubtful, though this need not invalidate Makhir's Davidic origin. [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress p77]

identification as Makhir examined and judged to be groundless [Ref: Taylor Makhir p214]

At Narbonne, near the Mediterranean frontier of France and Spain, there was from the later Roman times onward an important settlement of Jews. These were said to have given valued help to the Frankish king, Peppin the Short, the father of Charlemagne, in his conquest of this region (then called Septimania) from the Muslims in 759, and to have been granted by him in reward the right to be governed by a Jewish king, and they certainly enjoyed a degree of autonomy a certury or more later [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress p76]

William's father is never called Ct of Autun. There were several counts of Autun of this name in the 9th century but not in the eighth. It is a common mistake and comes from a dating error made by the original editor, Perard in his _Recueil_ (I, p33). He thought that a charter dated 4th year of King Pippin (detailing a judgement made at Autun before Ct Theoderic), related to Pippin III, not Pippin I of Aquitaine (who also held Autun and some other counties in Burgundy). Hence he dated this charter to 755/6 and not 818. Perard's mistake was followed by Calmette in his studies on William's family (cf Annales du Midi, 1906, 1928 etc), and so has passed into secondary literature (but not Hlawitschka's piece n.b). This was corrected long ago by the editor's of the Cartulaire of St.Benoit sur Loire (Fleury), from where the charter comes from (cf Prou & Vidier, _Recueil .. de St.Benoit_.., 1900, p29). [Ref: exet0133 SGM 8/6/1996]



Pedigree of Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
 /-----Barnier
Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
|                                                               /-----Charibert Noble Of Neustria
|                                                      /-----Chrobertus (Robert) I Noble Of Neustria
|                                             /-----Lambert I Nobleman Of Therouanne
|                                    /-----Chrodobertus MajorDomo, Count Palatine
|                           /-----(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
|                          |        |         /-----(Unknown) Of Echternach, Austrasien Nobleman
|                          |         \-----Theodrada
|                  /-----Chariveus Count Of Laon
|         /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
|        |        |                           /-----Hugues Mayor Of The Palace Of Austrasie
|        |        |                  /-----Alberic
|        |        |         /-----Hubert Prince Of Bavaria
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Garnier I Mayor Of The Palace Of Burgundy
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Burgundy
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Bodilon
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Gondebald Count Of Meaux
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Meaux
|        |        |        |         \-----Adele
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----(Unk Son) Nobleman Of Dijon
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Ansowd Nobleman Of Dijon
|        |        |        |                  \-----Sigrade
|        |        |        |                          |         /-----Leutharius
|        |        |        |                           \-----(Unk Dau)
|        |        |        |                                    \-----Gerberga Of Burgundy
|        |         \-----Irmina
|        |                 |                  /-----(Unknown) Of Echternach, Austrasien Nobleman
|        |                 |         /-----Theodard Bishop Of Liege
|        |                  \-----Theodrada
|        |                          |                           /-----Chilperic I King Of Neustrie, King Of Paris
|        |                          |                  /-----Clotaire II The Grand King Of Franks
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Fredegundis
|        |                          |         /-----Dagobert I King Of Franks
|        |                          |        |         \-----Haldetrudis
|        |                           \-----(Unk Dau)
|        |                                    \-----Ragintrudis
 \-----Rolanda
         |                                                      /-----Clothaire I King Of Soissons
         |                                             /-----Chilperic I King Of Neustrie, King Of Paris
         |                                            |         \-----Ingundis
         |                                    /-----Clotaire II The Grand King Of Franks
         |                                   |        |         /-----Brunulphe Earl Of Cambresis
         |                                   |         \-----Fredegundis
         |                                   |                  \-----Crotechilde D'OSTROGOTHIE
         |                           /-----Dagobert I King Of Franks
         |                          |         \-----Haldetrudis
         |                  /-----Clovis II King Of Franks
         |                 |        |         /-----Sandregisisle Lord Of Bibigny
         |                 |         \-----Nanthildis Queen Of Franks
         |         /-----Theoderic III King Of Franks, King Of Burgundy
         |        |         \-----Saint Bathildis
          \-----Bertrade De Preum
                  |                                             /-----Munderic
                  |                                    /-----Mummolin Mayor Of The Palace Of Newstrie
                  |                                   |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |                           /-----Bodogisel Duke
                  |                          |        |         /-----Maurilion Gallo-Roman Nobleman
                  |                          |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |                          |                  \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |                  /-----Saint Arnulf Bishop Of Metz
                  |                 |         \-----Saint Ode
                  |                 |                 |         /-----Gallus Magnus Of Narbonne, Gallo Roman Patrician
                  |                 |                  \-----Palatina
                  |         /-----Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
                  |        |        |                           /-----Ferreolus, Senator Of Rodez
                  |        |        |                  /-----Ansbertus Gallo-Roman Senator
                  |        |        |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |        |        |         /-----Arnoldus Bishop Of Metz
                  |        |        |        |        |         /-----Clothaire I King Of Soissons
                  |        |        |        |         \-----Blithildis
                  |        |        |        |                  \-----Waldrada Of Lombard, Queen Of Austrasia
                  |        |         \-----Dode
                   \-----Dode
                           |                  /-----Carloman Nobleman Of Austrasie
                           |         /-----Pepin Of Landen, Mayor Of The Palace
                           |        |        |                  /-----Agivald Frankish Nobleman
                           |        |        |         /-----Geribald I Of Bavaria, Duke Of Bavaria
                           |        |         \-----Gertrude
                           |        |                 |         /-----Waccho King Of Lombard
                           |        |                  \-----Waldrada Of Lombard, Queen Of Austrasia
                           |        |                           \-----Ostrogotha Princess Of Gepide
                            \-----Saint Begga Of Landen
                                    |                           /-----Thibert I King Of Austrasie
                                    |                  /-----Thibaud King Of Austrasie
                                    |                 |         \-----Deoteria
                                    |         /-----Grimoalde Of Aquitaine
                                    |        |        |         /-----Waccho King Of Lombard
                                    |        |         \-----Waldrada Of Lombard, Queen Of Austrasia
                                    |        |                  \-----Ostrogotha Princess Of Gepide
                                     \-----Itta Idoberge Abbess Of Nivelles
                                             |         /-----Severus Duke Of Gascon
                                              \-----Saint Itte



Descendants of Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
1. Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun m. Auda
m. Auda father: Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France mother: Chrotrudis

2nd generation

2. Thiery Count In Riparia m.
3. Adalelmus m.
4. Theudoin Count Of Autun m.
5. Bertha m1. Fradelon m2. Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye
m. Fradelon
m. Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye father: Niebelung I Historian, Lord Of Perrency
6. Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania m1. Kunigunde m2. Guibour
m. Kunigunde
m. Guibour father: Lambert Lord Of Hornbach

3rd generation

7. Dunna m. Childebrand III Lord Of Perrency
m. Childebrand III Lord Of Perrency father: Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye mother: Bertha
8. Waldast m. Hadrian Lord In The Worms
m. Hadrian Lord In The Worms father: Gerold I Count In The Anglachau mother: Emma
9. Bernard Count Of Poitiers m. (Unk Dau) Of Cahors
m. (Unk Dau) Of Cahors father: Emenon Count Of Cahors
11. Aude m. Warin Count Of Chalon
m. Warin Count Of Chalon
13. Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue m. Senegauda
m. Senegauda father: Caribert
14. Niebelung III Count Of Burgundy m.
15. Childebrand III Lord Of Perrency m. Dunna
m. Dunna father: Thiery Count In Riparia
16. Theodebert Count In Neustria m.
18. Chrodlindis m. Wala Count Of Saxony, Abbot Of Corbia
m. Wala Count Of Saxony, Abbot Of Corbia father: Bernard Duke, Abbot Of Saint Quentin mother: (Unk Dau) Of Laon
19. Caribert m.
23. Bernard Marquis Of Septimania m. Dhunde Of Gascony
m. Dhunde Of Gascony father: Sancho Loup Duke Of The Gascons mother: (Unk) Galindez
24. Garnier m.

4th generation

27. Eccard Lord Of Perrency m1. Albegonda m2. Richilda
m. Albegonda
m. Richilda father: Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
28. Thierry The Treasurer Count Of The Autonois m.
30. Eudes Count Of Orleans m. Engeltrude
m. Engeltrude father: Leuthard Count Of Fezenac mother: Grimihild
32. Wialdruth m. Guiguin Rupert III Count In Wormgau
m. Guiguin Rupert III Count In Wormgau father: Rupert II Count In Wormgau mother: Theoderata
34. Emenon Count Of Perigord m1. (Unk Dau) Of Troyes m2.
m. (Unk Dau) Of Troyes father: Eudes Count Of Troyes mother: Wandilmode
35. Bernard Count Of Auvergne m. Lieugardis
m. Lieugardis
38. Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse m. Bertha
m. Bertha father: Remigius mother: Arsinde
39. Fredelon Count Of Toulouse m. Oda
m. Oda
40. Theoderic Count Of Vermandois m.
41. Niebelung IV Count Of Avalon And Vexin m.
42. Engletrude m. Pepin I King Of Aquitaine
m. Pepin I King Of Aquitaine father: Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West mother: Ermengarde Of Haspengau
45. Senegauda m. Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue
m. Fulgaud Count Of Rourgue father: Fradelon mother: Bertha
46. Cunigunde m. Bernard King Of Italy
m. Bernard King Of Italy father: Karlman (Pepin) King Of Italy And Bavaria mother: Therres
47. Rogerlinde Of Toulouse m. Vulgrin I Count Of Angouleme
m. Vulgrin I Count Of Angouleme father: Ulrich I Count In The Orgengau
49. Bernard Plantevalus Count Of Autun, Marquis Of Toulouse m. Ermengard
m. Ermengard father: Bernard Count Of Auvergne mother: Lieugardis
51. Rainaud m.

5th generation

56. Thierry II Count In The Chamois m. (Unk Dau)
m. (Unk Dau) father: Budwine Count Of Metz mother: Richilda
57. Richard m.
58. Gebhard Count In The Nieder-Lahngau m. (Unk Dau) Of Friuli
m. (Unk Dau) Of Friuli father: Hunroch Count of Ternois mother: Engeltron Of Paris
61. (Unk Dau) Of Orleans m. Gausfred Count Of Maine
m. Gausfred Count Of Maine father: Rorick Count Of Maine mother: Bilihild
62. Ermentrude Of Orleans m. Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
m. Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor father: Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West mother: Judith Of Bavaria
63. Engela m. Alberic Vicount Of Narbonne
m. Alberic Vicount Of Narbonne father: Geoffrey
64. Meingaud Count Of Worms m. Rotlind
m. Rotlind
65. Eudes Count Of Troyes m. Wandilmode
m. Wandilmode father: Aleran Count Of Troyes mother: (Unk Dau) Of Bavaria
66. Rupert IV The Strong Count Of Tours m1. (Unk) Of Laon m2. Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
m. (Unk) Of Laon
m. Aelis Of Tours And Alsace father: Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours mother: Ava
67. Adelheim Count Of Leon m.
72. Ermengard m. Bernard Plantevalus Count Of Autun, Marquis Of Toulouse
m. Bernard Plantevalus Count Of Autun, Marquis Of Toulouse father: Bernard Marquis Of Septimania mother: Dhunde Of Gascony
74. (Unk Dau) Of Auvergne m. Pons
m. Pons
76. Odon Count Of Toulouse m. Garsinde Heiress Of Albi
m. Garsinde Heiress Of Albi father: Ermengald Count Of Albi
81. Bella Of Toulouse m1. Etienne m2. Dimat Lop Count Of Bigorre
m. Etienne
m. Dimat Lop Count Of Bigorre father: Loup Centule Duke Of The Gascons
82. Rogilinda m. William I Count Of Perigord
m. William I Count Of Perigord father: Vulgrin I Count Of Angouleme mother: Rogerlinde Of Toulouse
83. Raimodis m. Mayceul Vicount Of Narbonne
m. Mayceul Vicount Of Narbonne father: Alberic Vicount Of Narbonne mother: Engela
85. Fulcrade m. Garnier
m. Garnier father: Rainaud
87. (Unk Dau) Of Vermandois m. Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin
m. Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin father: Bernard King Of Italy mother: Cunigunde
93. Kunigunde m. Erchanger Count In Swabia
m. Erchanger Count In Swabia
94. Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin m. (Unk Dau) Of Vermandois
m. (Unk Dau) Of Vermandois father: Theoderic Count Of Vermandois
95. William I Count Of Perigord m. Rogilinda
m. Rogilinda father: Raymond I Count And Marquess Of Toulouse mother: Bertha
96. Aminiana m. Garcia Sanchez Count Of Gascony
m. Garcia Sanchez Count Of Gascony father: Sancho Sanchez Mitarra II Duke Of Gascony mother: (Unk) Galindez Of Aragon
97. Senegonde Of Angouleme m. Ramnulf Vicount Of Marcillac
m. Ramnulf Vicount Of Marcillac
98. Alduin I Count Of Angouleme m.
99. Adelinda Of Toulouse m. Acfred Count Of Carcassonne
m. Acfred Count Of Carcassonne father: Oliba I Count Of Carcassone mother: Richilda
100. William Le Pieux, Duke Of Aquitaine m. Ingelburga
m. Ingelburga father: Boso Of Vienne, King Of Provence mother: Ermengarde
101. Aba Abbess Of Sauxillanges m. Hector Noble Of Arverne
m. Hector Noble Of Arverne
103. Garnier m. Fulcrade
m. Fulcrade father: Fredelon Count Of Toulouse mother: Oda