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  • Name: Aelis
  • Sex: F


  • Parents:

Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Emma Death: 935
  2. Hildebrante/Liegarde/Adela Birth: Abt 887 Death: After 931

Bibliography
  1. de Saint-Phalle, Edouard, Les comtes de Gatinais aux X et XI siecles, in Settipani and Keats-Rohan, Onomastique et Parente dans l'Occident medieval, Uxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, Linacre College, 2000. NYPL JFD 03-2300 (advance request needed). Information from this source tagged as [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p[0-9]*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES II #[0-9]*].
  3. The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, An eperiment in a cooperative online database for scholarly medieval genealogy. Contributors and Editors: Stewart Baldwin, Todd Farmerie, Peter Stewart. Available at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HenryII .*].
  4. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  5. Roberts, Gary Boyd, Ancestors of American Presidents, First Authoritative Edition. Santa Clarita, CA: Carl Boyer, 1995. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts USPres [A-Zp][A-Z0-9]*].
  6. Settipani, Christian, La prehistore des Capetiens: 481-987. Villeneue d'Asacq: P. Van Kerrebrouck, 1993. NYPL ASF (Capet) 94-7243. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Capet [p#][0-9]*].
  7. Farmerie, Todd, Aelis wife of Robert I. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 5/7/1998. Subject: deCOURTNEY. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/1YgC0YWfADE/m/IsJA3x6RN8kJ. Author address: taf2 at po dot cwru dot edu. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 5/7/1998].
  8. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources with Information about marriage to Robert I King Of France
date:
probably second marriage of Robert [Ref: HenryII rober100 9/20/2015]
second marriage of Robert [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009],
names:
Robert I & Ne [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243, Settipani Capet #11],
child:
[Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243, ES II #10, Roberts RD600 p562, Roberts RD600 p565, Roberts RD600 p568, Roberts USPres p195, Settipani Capet #11, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #50]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
date:
first marriage of Robert I [Ref: ES II #10, Weis AR7 #48, Weis AR7 #50]
first marriage of Robert [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p243]
Research Notes:
21 May 907: appears in an act of king Charles the Simple as countess with Robert, and has been placed as either a wife (most natural interpretation) or daughter of Robert. This is closely tied to the chronology of Beatrix, wife of Robert I and mother of Hugues le Grand. Usual interpretation is that the act of 26 Mar 931 indicates that Beatrix was still alive on that date; if that is correct then Adele would be an earlier first wife and Beatrix as second, and Hugues le Grand (known to be son of Beatrix) born in 908 at the earliest, which goes against everything that is known about the chronology of Hugues le Grand. If Beatrix were alive in 931, then she would have appeared in the 931 act as regina, not merely as domna; it therefore seems likely that she was no longer living in 931. In this case there would be no obstacle to placing her death before 907, and making Adele a later rather than an earlier wife. [Ref: HenryII rober101 2/23/2009]

Vajay has suggested that she was daughter of Louis the German. This appears to have been based solely on the name Emma (Louis's wife, Robert's daughter), and thus doesn't carry much weight. Most reliable sources leave her parentage unassigned. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 5/7/1998]



Pedigree of Aelis
Aelis



Descendants of Aelis
1. Aelis m. Robert I King Of France
m. Robert I King Of France father: Rupert IV The Strong Count Of Tours mother: Aelis Of Tours And Alsace

2nd generation

2. Emma m. Raoul King Of France
m. Raoul King Of France father: Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne mother: Adelaide Of Burgundy
3. Hildebrante/Liegarde/Adela m. Herbert II Count Of Vermandois
m. Herbert II Count Of Vermandois father: Herbert I Count Of Vermandois mother: Beatrice Of Morvois

3rd generation

7. Alix De Vermandois m. Arnold I The Old Count Of Flanders
m. Arnold I The Old Count Of Flanders father: Baldwin II The Bald Count Of Flanders mother: Alfthryth Of England
8. Albert I The Pious Count Of Vermandois m. Gerberga Of Lorraine
m. Gerberga Of Lorraine father: Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine mother: Gerberga Of Saxony
9. Robert Count Of Troyes m. Adelaide Of Burgundy
m. Adelaide Of Burgundy father: Giselbert Duke Of Burgandy mother: Ermengarde Of Burgandy
10. Luitgarde De Vermandois m1. William Longspee Duke Of Normandy m2. Theobald I Le Tricheur Count Of Blois
m. William Longspee Duke Of Normandy father: Hrolfr (Rollo) Duke Of Normandy mother: Poppa
m. Theobald I Le Tricheur Count Of Blois father: Theobald Viscount Of Troyes mother: Richilde Of Bourges
12. Herbert III De Vermandois, Count Of Meaux m. Edgiva
m. Edgiva father: Edward The Elder King Of England mother: Alfflaed

4th generation

13. Elsunde Of Flanders m. Sigfrid Count Of Guines
m. Sigfrid Count Of Guines
15. Hildegarde Of Flanders m. Thierri II Count Of West Friesland
m. Thierri II Count Of West Friesland father: Thierri I Count Of West Friesland mother: Geva
16. Luitgard Of Flanders m. Wichmann II Count Of Hainault And Ghent
m. Wichmann II Count Of Hainault And Ghent father: Thierri I Count Of West Friesland mother: Geva
17. Baldwin III Count Of Flanders m. Matilda Of Saxony
m. Matilda Of Saxony father: Hermann Billung Duke Of Saxony mother: Hildegarde Of Westerbourg
18. Gui Count Of Soissons m. Adelaide Heiress Of Soissons
m. Adelaide Heiress Of Soissons father: Giselbert Count Of Soissons
19. Herbert III Count Of Vermandois m. Ermengarde Of Bar
m. Ermengarde Of Bar father: Reinald Count Of Bar
23. (Unk Dau) Of Troyes m. Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine
m. Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine father: Louis IV D'OUTRE-MER, King Of Franks mother: Gerberga Of Saxony
24. Adele Of Troyes m1. m2. Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
m. Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou father: Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou mother: Gerberga Of Nevers
25. Herbert III Count Of Meaux And Troyes m.
27. Eudes I Count Of Blois m. Bertha Of Burgandy
m. Bertha Of Burgandy father: Conrad The Peaceful King Of Burgundy mother: Matilda Of France
28. Emma Of Blois m. William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
m. William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine father: William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine mother: Gerloc Of Normandy

5th generation

33. Heloise De GUINES m. Crispin De BEC
m. Crispin De BEC father: Grimold Prince Of Monaco mother: Crispina
34. Ardolf Count Of Guines m. Mathilde Of Bologne
m. Mathilde Of Bologne father: Ernest Count Of Boulogne
35. Arnulf Count Of Holland And Ghent m. Luitgard Of Luxembourg
m. Luitgard Of Luxembourg father: Siegfried Count Of Luxemburg mother: Hedwig Of Nordgau
40. Adela m1. Immed II Count In Saxony m2. Balderich Count In The Drenth
m. Immed II Count In Saxony father: Immed I Saxon Noble
m. Balderich Count In The Drenth
41. Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders m. Rosela Of Italy
m. Rosela Of Italy father: Berengar II King Of Italy mother: Willa Of Aries
42. Aelis m. Nocher II Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
m. Nocher II Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube father: Nocher I Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
45. Eudes Count Of Vermandois m. Parvie
m. Parvie
46. Eudes Duke Of Lower Lorraine m.
49. Ermengarde Of Anjou m. Conan I Duke Of Brittany
m. Conan I Duke Of Brittany father: Judhael Count Of Rennes mother: Gerberge
50. Gerberge De Anjou m. Guillaume II Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
m. Guillaume II Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme father: Armand II Mauzer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme mother: Raingarde
51. Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou m1. Elizabeth Of Vermandois m2. Hildegarde Of Metz
m. Elizabeth Of Vermandois father: Bouchard Count Of Vendome mother: Elizabeth Dame De Scrauge
m. Hildegarde Of Metz
54. Eudes II Count Of Blois m1. Matilda m2. Ermengarde Of Auvergne
m. Matilda father: Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy mother: Gunnora
m. Ermengarde Of Auvergne father: Robert I Count Of Auvergne mother: Ermengarde
57. Aenor m. Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars
m. Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars father: Savaric III Vicomte De Thouars
59. William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine m1. Almodis Of Gervaudan m2. Sancha Of Gascone m3. Agnes Of Burgundy
m. Almodis Of Gervaudan father: Stephen De Brioude mother: Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
m. Sancha Of Gascone father: William Sancho Duke Of Gascogne mother: Urraca Of Navarre
m. Agnes Of Burgundy father: Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon mother: Ermentrude Of Roucy