Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 01-20-2025.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Richard
  2. Roger

Marriage: Children:
  1. Roger Count Of St. Pol Death: 13 Jun 1067
  2. Engelbert
  3. Peter Count Of Arlo

Bibliography
  1. The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, An eperiment in a cooperative online database for scholarly medieval genealogy. Contributors and Editors: Stewart Baldwin, Todd Farmerie, Peter Stewart. Available at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HenryII .*].
  2. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  3. Baldwin, Stewart, Count Eudes of Cambrai. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/9/2002. Subject: Is "Count Eudes of Cambrai" a fraud?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/gA7H9sSH-dU/m/mSqeF6GRhdkJ. Author address: sbaldw at mindspring dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 10/9/2002-173612].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277],
note:
very doubtful [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 10/9/2002-173612]
Sources with Information about marriage to Ada De Beaumont
date:
abt 1008/10 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277]
Sources with Information about marriage to Odale
date:
second marriage of Eudes [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277]
Research Notes:
Count of Cambria [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p277]

The question of count Eudes of Cambrai has been mentioned in this newsgroup before. The basic claim, from Moriarty's manuscript of Plantagenet Ancestry, stated to be based on a manuscript study by Friedrich von Stauffenberg, gives the following basic claimed table
Arnulf II Thibaud
count of seigneur of
Flanders Bois Ferrand
____________|____________________ |
| | | |
Baldwin IV Mathilda | |
count of m. Guibert | |
Flanders sgr. of Beaumont | |
|________ | |
| | |
Adela-m-Eudes-m-Adela
| |
2 sons Counts of
St. Pol and
Brienne
I had commented earlier on my failure to find anything backing up the above, but a closer look has now left me with much suspicion.
The account (evidently based on notes that Moriarty took from Stauffenberg) states that the records of St. Pierre de Cambrai (no more specific citation) contain a remembrance of count Odo/Eudes, son of count Arnulf and Susanna "lately queen of France" (i.e., Arnulf's wife who later married the king of France) providing for prayers for the souls of his father Arnulf, mother Susanna, and sister Mathilda, widow of Guilbert de Beaumont.
It then goes on to say that Eudes created a stir by marrying his own niece Adela, daughter of Mathilda ca. 1009/10, was anathematized by Pope Benedict IX, and that a letter from Baldwin IV to the pope in 1012 regarding the matter is in Migne PL vol. 116 or 117 (with the possibility mentioned in earlier postings that this should be read as 126-7 or 136-7, although the second digits do not look like any other 2's or 3's on the same page).
In describing the second marriage of Eudes, it states that Thibuad sgr. of Bois Ferrand is called "Thibaud de Louvain" by Alberic de Trois Fontaines, Orderic Vitalis, and William of Juminges.
So what is suspicious? Many things:
1. The pope in 1012 was Benedict VIII, not Benedict IX.
2. I checked volumes 116-7, 126-7, 136-7 of PL PLUS all of the volumes that actually have letter of popes Benedict VIII or IX, without finding the alleged letter. (Of course, the lack of good indexes here makes this result inconclusive.)
3. I checked Alberic de Trois Fontaines, Orderic Vitalis, and William of Juminges without finding any reference to the Thibaud of Louvain in question (or to Thibaud of Bois Ferrand, or to Eudes).
4. With the exception of a couple of places clearly using Moriarty as a source, no account of the counts of Flanders that I have seen (Vanderkindere, ES, Brandenburg, etc.) mentions a son of Arnulf II named Eudes.
5. The marriage of an uncle and niece would have been so extraordinarily rare in this setting that one would think that it would attract much attention in the literature, yet I have seen the claim nowhere else.
6. I have seen no source that proves that "count Eudes of Cambrai" ever even existed, let alone providing any parentage for him (again excepting items using Moriarty as a source).
It seems to me that this all adds up to a very suspicious picture, especially as it includes several apparently nonexistent citations. I lean toward the tentative conclusion that the Stauffenberg paper on which Moriarty relied was a fraud, and that much of the claim is a fabrication. I would guess that Moriarty never got around to checking the citations, as this does come from his notes, and is not what he was presenting as a finished product. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 10/9/2002-173612]

falsely attributed son (existence unlikely, evidently a fabrication) Eudes count of Cambrai, m(1) Adele de Beaumont, his niece, m(2) Adele de Bois-Ferrand (existance of both spouses also doubtful) [Ref: HenryII arnul000 11/25/2007]



Pedigree of Eudes Count Of Cambria
                                                                /-----Lyderic Count Of Harlebec
                                                       /-----Engelram Count Of Harlebec
                                              /-----Odoacre Count Of Harlebec
                                             |         \-----Friderada
                                     /-----Baldwin I Bras De Fer Count Of Flanders
                            /-----Baldwin II The Bald Count Of Flanders
                           |        |                           /-----Charlemagne King Of France
                           |        |                  /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
                           |        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
                           |        |         /-----Charles II The Bald King Of Franks, Emperor
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
                           |        |        |         \-----Judith Of Bavaria
                           |        |        |                  \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
                           |         \-----Judith
                           |                 |                  /-----Hadrian Lord In The Worms
                           |                 |         /-----Eudes Count Of Orleans
                           |                 |        |         \-----Waldast
                           |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Orleans
                           |                          |         /-----Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
                           |                           \-----Engeltrude
                           |                                    \-----Grimihild
                   /-----Arnold I The Old Count Of Flanders
                  |        |                                    /-----Eahlmund King of Kent
                  |        |                           /-----Egbert The Great King Of England
                  |        |                          |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |        |                  /-----Ethelwolf King Of England
                  |        |                 |         \-----Raedburh
                  |        |         /-----Alfred The Great King Of England
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Oslac Great Butler Of England
                  |        |        |         \-----Osburh
                  |         \-----Alfthryth Of England
                  |                 |         /-----Aethelred Earl Of Mercia
                  |                  \-----Ealhswith
                  |                          |                  /-----Witglaff King Of Mercia
                  |                          |         /-----Wigmund
                  |                           \-----Eadburgh Of Mercia
          /-----Baldwin III Count Of Flanders
         |        |                                             /-----Karlman (Pepin) King Of Italy And Bavaria
         |        |                                    /-----Bernard King Of Italy
         |        |                                   |         \-----Therres
         |        |                           /-----Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Caribert
         |        |                          |         \-----Cunigunde
         |        |                  /-----Herbert I Count Of Vermandois
         |        |                 |        |                  /-----Niebelung III Count Of Burgundy
         |        |                 |        |         /-----Theoderic Count Of Vermandois
         |        |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Vermandois
         |        |         /-----Herbert II Count Of Vermandois
         |        |        |        |         /-----Guerra I Count Of Morvois
         |        |        |         \-----Beatrice Of Morvois
         |        |        |                  \-----Eve Of Roussillon
         |         \-----Alix De Vermandois
         |                 |                                    /-----Rupert II Count In Wormgau
         |                 |                           /-----Guiguin Rupert III Count In Wormgau
         |                 |                          |         \-----Theoderata
         |                 |                  /-----Rupert IV The Strong Count Of Tours
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Hadrian Lord In The Worms
         |                 |                 |         \-----Wialdruth
         |                 |                 |                  \-----Waldast
         |                 |         /-----Robert I King Of France
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
         |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Hiltrude
         |                 |        |         \-----Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
         |                 |        |                  \-----Ava
         |                  \-----Hildebrante/Liegarde/Adela
         |                           \-----Aelis
 /-----Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders
|        |                  /-----Billung Count In Saxony
|        |         /-----Hermann Billung Duke Of Saxony
|        |        |         \-----Fraderuna
|         \-----Matilda Of Saxony
|                  \-----Hildegarde Of Westerbourg
Eudes Count Of Cambria
|                                    /-----Amadeus Count In Payn De Langres
|                           /-----Anchier Count Of Orcheret, Margrave Of Ivrea
|                  /-----Adalbert The Rich Margrave Of Ivrea
|         /-----Berengar II King Of Italy
|        |        |                           /-----Hunroch Count of Ternois
|        |        |                  /-----Eberhard Margrave Of Friuli
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Begue Count Of Paris
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Rotrude
|        |        |                 |         \-----Engeltron Of Paris
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Aupals
|        |        |         /-----Berengar I King Of Italy
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|        |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Emma
|        |        |        |         \-----Gisele
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
|        |        |        |                  \-----Judith Of Bavaria
|        |        |        |                          |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
|        |        |        |                           \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
|        |         \-----Gisele Of Friuli
|        |                 |                  /-----Maurin PFALZGRAF
|        |                 |         /-----Suppo Margrave Of Spoleto
|        |                  \-----Bertila Of Spoleto
|        |                          |         /-----Wilfred Count
|        |                           \-----Berta
 \-----Rosela Of Italy
         |                                                      /-----Boso I Count Of Arles And Tuscany
         |                                             /-----Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
         |                                    /-----Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
         |                           /-----Herbert Marquis Of Transjurian Burgundy
         |                  /-----Theobald Count Of Aries
         |         /-----Boso Count Of Aries
         |        |        |                                    /-----Charlemagne King Of France
         |        |        |                           /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
         |        |        |                  /-----Lothair I King Of Italy, Emperor Of The West
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Ingerman Count Of Hasbaye
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Ermengarde Of Haspengau
         |        |        |         /-----Lothair II The Saxon King Of Lorraine
         |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
         |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Hiltrude
         |        |        |        |         \-----Ermengarde Of Tours
         |        |        |        |                  \-----Ava
         |        |         \-----Bertha Of Lorraine
         |        |                  \-----Waldrada
          \-----Willa Of Aries
                  |                                             /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
                  |                                    /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
                  |                           /-----Conrad I Of Burgandy, Count Of Auxerra
                  |                          |        |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
                  |                          |         \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
                  |                  /-----Conrad II Duke Of Transjurand Burgandy
                  |                 |        |                  /-----Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
                  |                 |        |         /-----Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
                  |                 |        |        |         \-----Hiltrude
                  |                 |         \-----Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
                  |                 |                  \-----Ava
                  |         /-----Rudolph I King Of Upper Burgundy
                  |        |         \-----Walrada
                   \-----Willa Of Tuscany
                           |                                    /-----Richard Count Of Rouen
                           |                           /-----Richard Count Of Amiens
                           |                  /-----Budwine Count Of Metz
                           |         /-----Boso Of Vienne, King Of Provence
                           |        |        |                  /-----Boso II Count Of Arles And Tuscany
                           |        |        |         /-----Boso III The Old Count Of Arles And Tuscany
                           |        |         \-----Richilda
                            \-----Wille



Descendants of Eudes Count Of Cambria
1. Eudes Count Of Cambria m1. Ada De Beaumont m2. Odale
m. Ada De Beaumont father: Guibert Seigneur De Beaumont mother: Mathilda
m. Odale father: Thibaud Seigneur De Boso Foraud

2nd generation

4. Roger Count Of St. Pol m. Hadwide
m. Hadwide father: Gervase De Chatillon Vidame Of Rheims mother: Adelgonda

3rd generation

7. Hugh I Count Of St. Pol m. Clemence
m. Clemence

4th generation

8. Hugh II Count Of St. Pol m. Helisande Of Ponthieu
m. Helisande Of Ponthieu father: Hugh II Count Of Ponthieu mother: Bertha Of Aumale
9. Rosella Of St Pol m. Rudolf Count Of Guines
m. Rudolf Count Of Guines father: Ardolf Count Of Guines mother: Mathilde Of Bologne

5th generation

10. Hugh III Count Of St. Pol m1. Beatrix m2. Marguerite Of Clermont
m. Beatrix
m. Marguerite Of Clermont father: Renaud Count Of Clermont mother: Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois