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Marriage:
Marriage:
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Banks, Thomas Christopher, Baronia anglica concentrata: or, A concentrated account of all the baronies commonly called baronies in fee; deriving their origin from writ of summons, and not from any specific limited creation. London: Simpkin, 1844. Available at https://archive.org/details/baroniaanglicaco01bankuoft. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Banks Baronies v[1-2]p[0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Parents of Agnes de Ferrers. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/2/2001. Subject: CP Error: Ferrers (was: Royal Genealogy Question Agnes de Ferres/Charlemagne). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Jf722f71Lj0/m/MzlNwmutNBcJ. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 12/2/2001-091015].
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Richardson, Douglas, Mother of Hawise Muscegros. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/13/1999. Subject: Lygon to Henry I. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/rTrSYGkMS-w/m/fP4P1XjSDhwJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/13/1999].
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Richardson, Douglas, Jane Norton, wife of Edward Grey, Viscount Lisle. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/2/2009. Subject: Another C.P. Addition: Jane Norton, wife of Edward Grey, Viscount Lisle. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/sStA0cs_hbU/m/5rgI5xALYCgJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/2/2009-220259].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006 (CP V p308), Chris Phillips SGM
12/2/2001-091015, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p562, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p201, Weis
AR7 #189]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- living 17 Apr 1287, died before 1297 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p201]
- living 7 Nov 1312 [Ref: CP V p467, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p625]
- living 9 May 1281 [Ref: CP V p335f, Watney WALLOP #719, Weis AR7 #189]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Robert De MUSCEGROS
- date:
- abt 1278 [Ref: John Watson SGM 1/13/2015-104930]
- first appearance in 7 Edw I (1278 or 1279) [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006
(CP V p308)]
- second marriage of Robert [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p201],
- names:
- [Ref: CP V p308, CP V p335f, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p565, Watney WALLOP
#719, Weis AR7 #189]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Hawise (#13590) wife of John de FERRERS [Ref: CP V p308, CP V p335f,
Watney WALLOP #719, Weis AR7 #189]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John FITZ REYNOLD, Lord FitzReynold
- date:
- before 1289 as second marriage of Agnes [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
9/25/2018-162840],
- names:
- [Ref: Banks Baronies v2p81, CP V p467, Douglas Richardson SGM
3/2/2009-220259, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p625]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Herbert (#148989) [Ref: Banks Baronies v2p81, CP V p467, Douglas
Richardson SGM 3/2/2009-220259, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p625]
Research Notes:
according to the usual account, Agnes was daughter of William, Earl of Derby,
by his 2nd wife, Margaret de Quency. This is obviously impossible, for it
would make John and Hawise first cousins [Ref: CP V p308(c), Chris Phillips
SGM 12/2/2001-091015]
maritagium included the manor of Chinnor, Oxfordshire [Ref: Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p201]
Sir Christopher Hatton's Book of Seals in Northants Rec Soc (1950), No 98,
p.64, appears to answer note c [CP V p308(c)] completely [Ref: Weis AR7 #189]
Hawise must have been the daughter of Sir Robert de Muscegros by a wife
previous to Agnes, as there is good evidence to support the "usual account"
that Agnes was the daughter of William de Ferrers, earl of Derby, by Margaret,
the daughter of Roger de Quency [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006 (CP V p308),
Chris Phillips SGM 12/2/2001-091015]
late in life Agnes conveyed her maritagium in Chinnor, co. Oxford to the Sapy
family, which action is typical in this period of an aging widow who was
childless. If Agnes was truly Hawise's mother, Agnes' maritagium would almost
certainly descended to Hawise and not have been sold. [Ref: Douglas Richardson
SGM 11/13/1999]
In 7 Edward I [1278 or 1279], Robert de Muscegros and Agnes held two thirds of
the manor of Chinnor, Oxfordshire in free marriage, the other third being held
by Oliver la Zouche [Rot. Hundredorum, vol.2, p.783]. This manor had been held
by the de Quencys, and evidently divided among the three daughters and coheirs
of Roger de Quency (d.1264) - Margaret, who married William de Ferrers, earl
of Derby, Elizabeth, who married Alexander Comyn, earl of Buchan and Helen,
who married Sir Alan la Zouche [Victoria County History, Oxfordshire, vol.8,
p.58; Oliver la Zouche was a younger son of Sir Alan and Helen - see Complete
Peerage, vol.12, part 2, p.934, note g]. In a charter concerning Sydenham, a
hamlet of Chinnor, Agnes refers to Roger de Quency as her grandfather [Sir
Christopher Hatton's Book of Seals, ed. L.C. Loyd and D.M. Stenton, no 95
(1950)]. There is a note of another charter in which she refers to Margaret de
Ferrers, countess of Derby, as her mother [British Library, Add. MS, pencil
fo.164]. (In view of this evidence, the statement of a jury, recorded in the
Hundred Rolls [vol.2, p.783], that she was the daughter of Robert, earl of
Derby - William's son - must be an error.) [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006 (CP
V p308)]
Pedigree of Agnes De FERRERS
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Walkelin De FERRIERES
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Henry De FERRERS, Baron Of Tutbury
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Robert FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Bertha
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Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Triscan
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Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
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Enoguen
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Andre I De Vitre
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Guerin I De CRAON
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Bertha Dame De Craon
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Hawise
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Herluin De Contreville
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Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
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Herleve Of Falaise
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Agnes Of Mortain
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Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
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Maud De Montgomery
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Mabel De Belesme
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William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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William PEVEREL, Baron Of Peverel
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William PEVERIL, Baron Of Peverel
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Adeline
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Margaret PEVERIL
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Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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Ethred Baron Of Kendal
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Goditha
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Beatrice
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Avice De LANCASTER
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William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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(Unk) De BRAOS
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William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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Gunnor
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Philip De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
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Alvred Lord Of Barnstaple And Totnes
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Johel De TOTENEIS, Baron Of Barnstaple
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Aenor De TOTENEIS
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Guermond Of Picquigny
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Eustache Of Picquigny, Vidame Of Amiens
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Adele
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(Unk Dau) Of Picquigny
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Sibyl De BRAOISE
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(Unk) De PITRES
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Roger De PITRES
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Walter FITZ ROGER
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Adeliza
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Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
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Dru De BALLON
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Berthe De BALLON
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Bertha Of Hereford
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Thurcytel Lord Of Newfmarche
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Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE
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Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
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Richard De Hugelville, Sire De Saint Valery
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Ada
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Papia
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Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
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Richard FITZ SCROB
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Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle
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(Unk)
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Nesta
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Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales
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Nesta
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Aldgyth
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William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Anschitil Vicomte Of The Bessin
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Ranulph I De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
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Ranulph II De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
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Richard III Duke Of Normandy
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Alice Of Normandy
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Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
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Turstain De Goz, Vicount Of Hiemois
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Richard Le Goz, Vicomte D'Avranches
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Margaret Le Goz
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Emma
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Ranulf De GERNON, Earl Of Chester, Vicomte D'Avranches
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(Unk)
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Thorold Of Buckingham, Sheriff Of Lincoln
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Lucia Of East Angies
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William MALET
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(Unk Dau)
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Gilbert Crespin, Lord Of Tillieres
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Esilia CRISPIN
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Gunnor De ANJOU
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Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester
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Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
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William The Conqueror King Of England
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Herleve Of Falaise
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Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
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Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
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Maud Of Flanders
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Adelaide Of France
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Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
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Maud De CAEN
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Hamon-Aux-Dents Lord Of Torigny
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Hamon Sheriff Of Kent
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Robert FITZ HAMOND, Lord Of Tewkesbury
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Maud FITZ HAMOND
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Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
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Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
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Emma
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Sybil De Montgomery
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William II TALVAS
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Mabel De Belesme
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Hildeburg
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Agnes Of Chester, Lady Of Chartley
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William Count Of Hainault
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Amauri III De MONTFORT
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(Unk) Heiress Of Montfort And Epernon
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Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
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Guilaume De Gommetz
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Bertrade De GOMMETZ
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Alberade
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Amauri IV De MONTFORT, Count Of Evereux
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Robert Count Of Evereux, Archbishop Of Rouen
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Richard Count Of Evereux
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Herleva
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Agnes Of Evereux
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Godehildie
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Simon De MONTFORT, Count Of Evreux
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Adam Of Garlande
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Anscau De Garlande, Seneschal Of France
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Agnes De Garlande
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(Unk) De Montmorency
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Bertrade De MONTFORT
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Maud
Agnes De FERRERS
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Saher De QUINCEY, Lord Of Buckby In Northampto
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Robert De QUINCEY
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Ranulph Le Rich
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Simon De St. LIZ, Earl Of Huntingdon
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Maud De ST LIZ
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Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
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Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
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Aelflaed
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Maud Of Huntingdon
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Lambert Of Boulogne, Count Of Lens
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Judith Of Lens
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Adelaide Of Normandy
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Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret
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William Lord Of Leuchars
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Ness Of Leuchars
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Orabella
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Roger De QUINCY, Earl Of Winchester
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Humphrey De Vieilles
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Roger De Beaumont
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Aubreye De La Haie
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Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Waleran Count Of Meulan
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Adelise Of Meulan
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Ode
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Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Henry I King Of France
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
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Anne Of Kiev
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Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
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Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
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Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
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Adela De Valois
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Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester
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Ralph De Gael, Earl Of Norfolk
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Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
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Getha
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Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
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William Fitz Osbern, Earl Of Hereford
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Emma Fitz Osbern
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Adelise De TONI
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Amicia De Gael
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Margaret BEAUMONT
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Robert De Grentmesnil
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Hawise De Echafour
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Robert De GRANTMESNIL
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Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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Judith
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William De GRANTMESNIL
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(Unk) De Estouteville
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Robert De Estouteville
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Emma De Estouteville
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Beatrix
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Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL
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Margaret De QUINCEY
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Fergus Lord Of Galloway
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Uchtred Of Galloway
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William The Conqueror King Of England
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Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
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Maud Of Flanders
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Sibyl/Elizabeth
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Robert CORBET, Lord of Alcester
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Sibyl CORBET
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Roland Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
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Maldred Lord Of Carlisle
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Gospatric I Earl Of Northumberland
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Ealdgyth
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Waltheof Baron Of Allendale
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Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
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(Unk Dau)
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Alfflaed
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Gunnild Of Dunbar
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Sigrid
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Alan Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
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(Unk) De MORVILLE
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Hugh De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
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Richard De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
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Hugh De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Beauchamp Of Bedford
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Robert BEAUCHAMP
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Matilda De Taillebois
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Beatrice BEAUCHAMP
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Elena De MORVILLE
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Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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Ethred Baron Of Kendal
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Goditha
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Beatrice
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Avice De LANCASTER
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Helen Of Galloway
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John FITZRICHARD
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Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
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Richard FITZ EUSTACE, Constable Of Chester
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William FITZ NIGEL, Constable Of Chester
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Agnes De HALTON
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Adeliz Of Widness
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John Fitz Richard, Constable Of Chester
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Fulk De LISOURS
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Robert LIZOURS
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Aubrey
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Albreada LIZOURS, Baroness Of Pontfract
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Robert De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract
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Aubrey De LACY
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Maud
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Roger De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract
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(Unk) De CANTELOWE
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Richard
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Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
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Roger BIGOD, Baron Of Framlingham
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Jane BIGOD
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Alice De TOENI
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Alice Fitz Roger
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Alberic De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Beatrix
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Alice De VERE
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Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
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Adeliza De CLARE
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Adeliza De CLERMONT
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(Unk Dau) De LACY
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Hugh I Vicount Of Chartres, Chatelain Of Puiset
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Ebrard III Seigneur De Puiset
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Alix Of Monthlery
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Hugh III Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
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Bouchard II Count Of Corbeil
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Adelaide Of Corbeil
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Adelaide De Crecy
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Ebrard IV Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
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Theobald III Count Of Blois And Champagne
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Stephen Count Of Blois, Leader Of First Crusade
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Garsend Of Maine
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Agnes
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William The Conqueror King Of England
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Adela
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Maud Of Flanders
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Maud De CLERE
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Heloise De ROUCY
Descendants of Agnes De FERRERS