Family:
Children:
- Hugh De GRANTMESNIL Death: After 1177
- Agnes De GRANDMESNIL
Marriage:
Marriage:
Children:
- William De GRANTMESNIL
- Beatrix De RYE
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 07 Hussee-Lincolnshire. London: St Catherine Press, 1929. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VII [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
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Phillips, Chris, Petronilla de Grandmesnil. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/19/1999. Subject: Petronilla de Grandmesnil. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/7_cTgqrHwN8/m/SKFqMUF0T8MJ. Author address: cg dot phillips at ic dot ac dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 4/19/1999].
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Phillips, Chris, Ancestry of Petronella de Grandmesnil. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/9/1999. Subject: Ancestry of Petronella de Grandmesnil (rather long). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/2LxfjMCvo5Y/m/4FxrMqnqTysJ. Author address: cg dot phillips at ic dot ac dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/9/1999-A].
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Phillips, Chris, de Stuteville family in the Durham Liber Vitae. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/9/1999. Subject: de Stuteville family in the Durham Liber Vitae (rather long). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/yjiSal-cSmI/m/6oLA4R4qImoJ. Author address: cg dot phillips at ic dot ac dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/9/1999-B].
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Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. XIII: Les Familles Feodales de France I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1990. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES XIII #[0-9]*].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol I: Domesday Book. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 1999. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 1. Corrections in Volume II (Domesday Descendants) pp 4-5. Further corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-people-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p[0-9]*].
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Bevan, Rosie, Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/31/2002. Subject: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/TZJlpxTzthU/m/2YRGLJwSZfwJ. Author address: rbevan at fernside dot co dot nz. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 7/31/2002-221605].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- first son [Ref: CP VII p532(g), Keats-Rohan DP p263, Keats-Rohan DP
p282],
- parents:
- [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v3p287, Keats-Rohan DP p263, Keats-Rohan
DP p282],
- father:
- [Ref: CP VII p532(g), CP VII p532(h)]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #688, ES III.4 #697, ES XIII #103]
- abt 1136 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p263]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: ES XIII #103]
Sources with Information about marriage to unknown
- child:
- [Ref: CP IX p43note, CP VII p532(h)]
Sources with Information about marriage to Agnes Of Bayeux
- date:
- first marriage of Robert [Ref: CP VII p532(h), ES III.4 #697],
- names:
- [Ref: CP VII p677, Keats-Rohan DD p228]
Sources with Information about marriage to Emma De Estouteville
- date:
- second marriage of Emma [Ref: ES XIII #103]
- second marriage of Robert [Ref: CP VII p532(h), ES III.4 #697,
Keats-Rohan DD p723, Keats-Rohan DP p263, Rosie Bevan SGM 7/31/2002-221605],
- names:
- [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/9/1999-B],
- child:
- [Ref: CP++ Leicester 12/31/2006 (CP VII p532), Chris Phillips SGM
8/9/1999-A, Keats-Rohan DP p263]
Sources with Information about marriage to Lucy Fitz Chaine
- date:
- third marriage of Robert [Ref: CP VII p532(h), ES III.4 #697],
- names:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #688, Keats-Rohan DD p876]
Research Notes:
inherited the Norman lands from father [Ref: CP VII p532(h), Keats-Rohan DP
p263, Keats-Rohan DP p282]
Nearly all the genealogical evidence about the family derives from the
Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis [4]. This includes an overall survey
of the family written (possibly as a later edition to the work) after the
death of Robert, the eldest son of Hugh, around 1136. Unfortunately, Roberts
heir is not named. However, there is no indication that he died without issue;
at any rate, his longevity is contrasted with the fate of his younger
brothers: not one of them [the brothers] except Robert lived to old age or
enjoyed peaceful prosperity for very long.
Orderic does mention one grandson of Hugh who was called William. This was
the son of Hughs son William, who went to Apulia and married Mabel, daughter
of Robert Guiscard. The fullest accounts of the Apulian branch I have seen are
those of Chalandon [5] and Jamison [6]. On this evidence, the younger William
does not seem a very likely candidate as the father of Petronella. The elder
William was dead by 1114 [7]. His initial heir seems to have been the younger
William, but he was succeeded by his brother Robert by the late 1120s
(apparently by 1127 [5]). Perhaps it could still be argued that an infant
daughter of William (Petronella?) might be passed over in favour of his adult
brother. But as Petronella married in the mid-to-late 1150s [8], presumably
she would have been born around the late 1130s, so that, even given this
special pleading, the Apulian William would have died 10-20 years too early to
be her father. [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/9/1999-A]
Pedigree of Robert De GRANTMESNIL
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Robert De Grentmesnil
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Girole De Echafour
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Hawise De Echafour
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Thursten De Bastenburgh
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Gisela De Bastenburgh
Robert De GRANTMESNIL
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Ivo
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Ivo
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Geila
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Ivo Count Of Belemontensis
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Ivo I Count Of Beaumont
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Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
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Emma
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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Judith
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