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Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 02 Bass-Canning. London: St Catherine Press, 1912. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 2 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo02coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP II [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
[Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/7/1998]
possibly Sir Thomas Malesmains or King John [Ref: CP II p126(b)]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: CP II p126, John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/7/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p96, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p38]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP II p126, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p96, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p38]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley
date:
[Ref: CP II p126, John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/7/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p38]
first marriage of Lucy [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p96]
second marraige of Robert [Ref: Foss Judges p86, Keats-Rohan DD p852]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hugh De GOURNAY
date:
before 1222 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p38]
before 1222, as first marriage of Hugh [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p96]
second marriage of Lucy [Ref: CP II p126, Foss Judges p86, John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/7/1998],
names:
Hugh de GOURNAY & Matilda [Ref: Watney WALLOP #456]
Hugh de GOURNAY & Maud [Ref: Weis AR7 #257]
Research Notes:
kinswoman (neptis) of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p96, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p38]

remarried Roger de Clifford [Ref: Watney WALLOP #456]

Mentioned in the Fine Roll 3 Apr 1222 as niece of William Longspee; it is difficult to suggest any parentage for this niece (for she could not have been his granddaughter). She might have been neice of the wife of Earl William Longspee, and possibly dau of Sir Thomas Malesmains. If she had been an illegit da of King John, she would probably have been described as "soror Regis." [Ref: CP II p126(b)]

She is known only as a _nepta_ of William Longespee, earl of Salisbury, natural son of Henry II. She is, however, so designated at an early date at which she could not possibly have been his granddaughter (one of the two possible interpretations of the Latin _nepta_), so she must have been a niece. _Complete Peerage_, i, p. 126 note "b" realizes that this could have several possible meanings: Lucia could have been John's daughter, but she could also have been a daughter of Henry the Young King, Richard I, Geoffrey of Brittany, of a uterine brother or sister of William Longespee or even of William's wife (though the evidence cited does not strongly support this last possibility). If she were a daughter of the Young King, however, she could have been born no later than 1184, so that she would have been about 34 at her first marriage--a rather advanced age. Likewise if she was a daughter of Geoffrey of Brittany, she could have been born no later than 1187 and would have been around 31. If a daughter of Richard I, born no later than 1190 and 28 at her first marriage. (None of this is necessarily impossible, of course, but it *is* very unlikely.) Since the true identity of William Longespee's mother is contested--except that she was NOT Rosamund Clifford--we can't say anything authoritatively about his uterine sublings (if any) or their issue. And as noted, the evidence _CP_ cites is not very conclusive that Lucia was a niece of Longespee's wife. So we're left with the greater possibilities that she was either John's daughter or a uterine niece of William Longespee's mother. [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/7/1998]



Pedigree of Lucy
                                                                /-----Fulk Count Of Perche
                                                       /-----Hugo Of Perch
                                                      |         \-----Melisende
                                              /-----Geoffrey Ferreol Count Of The Gatinais
                                             |        |         /-----Aubri Count Of Macon
                                             |         \-----Beatrix Of Macon
                                             |                  \-----(Unk)
                                     /-----Fulk IV Rechin Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |                  /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
                                    |        |        |         \-----Adele Of Troyes
                                    |         \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
                                    |                  \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
                            /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
                           |        |                           /-----William Count Of Hainault
                           |        |                  /-----Amauri III De MONTFORT
                           |        |                 |         \-----(Unk) Heiress Of Montfort And Epernon
                           |        |         /-----Simon I De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort L'Amau
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Guilaume De Gommetz
                           |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De GOMMETZ
                           |        |        |                  \-----Alberade
                           |         \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
                           |                 |                  /-----Robert Count Of Evereux, Archbishop Of Rouen
                           |                 |         /-----Richard Count Of Evereux
                           |                 |        |         \-----Herleva
                           |                  \-----Agnes Of Evereux
                           |                           \-----Godehildie
                   /-----Geoffrey Plantagenet Count Of Anjou, Duke Of Normandy
                  |        |                                    /-----Landry Sire de Baugency
                  |        |                           /-----Lancellin I Sire De Baugency In Orleanais
                  |        |                  /-----John De BAUGENCY, Seigneur De La Fleche
                  |        |         /-----Helias Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Hugh III Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Herbert Count Of Maine
                  |        |        |         \-----Paula Of Maine
                  |         \-----Erembourg Of Maine
                  |                 |                           /-----Hamon Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                  /-----Robert Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Hildeburgis
                  |                 |         /-----Gervase Seigneur De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                 |        |         \-----Elizabeth
                  |                  \-----Matilda De Chateau-Du-Loir
                  |                           \-----Aremburge
                  |                                    \-----Mathilde
          /-----Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England
         |        |                                             /-----Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                    /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                                   |         \-----Gunnora
         |        |                           /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Conan I Duke Of Brittany
         |        |                          |         \-----Judith Of Brittany
         |        |                          |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
         |        |                  /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
         |        |                 |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
         |        |                 |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
         |        |                 |                  \-----Duxia
         |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Arnold II The Young Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Baldwin IV The Bearded Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Rosela Of Italy
         |        |        |        |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Frederick I Count Of Luxemburg
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Ogive Of Luxembourg
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Kinziggau
         |        |        |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
         |        |        |                 |                  /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
         |        |        |                 |         /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
         |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
         |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of France
         |        |        |                          |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
         |        |        |                           \-----Constance Of Provence
         |        |        |                                    \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
         |         \-----Matilda
         |                 |                                    /-----Duncan Lord Of Mormaer Of Athol
         |                 |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
         |                 |                  /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----Mael Coluim (Malcolm II) Mac CINAED, King Of Scots
         |                 |                 |         \-----Bethoc
         |                 |         /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Beorn
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Ealdred Of Bernicia
         |                 |        |                  \-----Aelflaed
         |                  \-----Matilda Of Scotland
         |                          |                           /-----Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
         |                          |                  /-----Edmund Ironside King Of England
         |                          |                 |         \-----Alfflaed
         |                          |         /-----Edward Athling The Exile
         |                          |        |        |         /-----Morcar High Reeve In Northumbria
         |                          |        |         \-----Ealgyth
         |                          |        |                  \-----Eadgyth
         |                           \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
         |                                   |                  /-----Saint Vladimir Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
         |                                   |        |         \-----Rogneide Of Polotzk
         |                                    \-----Agatha
         |                                            |         /-----Olaf III SKOTKONUNG, King Of Sweden
         |                                             \-----Ingegard
         |                                                      \-----Astrid
 /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
|        |                                                      /-----William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                             /-----William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                            |         \-----Gerloc Of Normandy
|        |                                    /-----William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Theobald I Le Tricheur Count Of Blois
|        |                                   |         \-----Emma Of Blois
|        |                                   |                  \-----Luitgarde De Vermandois
|        |                           /-----William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Adalbert Marquess Of Ivrea
|        |                          |        |         /-----Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Gerberga
|        |                          |         \-----Agnes Of Burgundy
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
|        |                          |                  \-----Ermentrude Of Roucy
|        |                          |                           \-----Alberade Of Lorraine
|        |                  /-----William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
|        |                 |        |         /-----Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
|        |                 |         \-----Hildegarde Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Fulk III The Black Count Of Anjou
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Adele Of Troyes
|        |                 |                  \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
|        |                 |                           \-----Hildegarde Of Metz
|        |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Raymond IV Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                           /-----William III Taileffer Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
|        |        |        |                  /-----Pons Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Rotbold Count Of Provence
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Emma Of Provence
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Ermengarde
|        |        |        |         /-----William IV Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Aldebert I Count Of Perigord
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Bernard I Count Of La Marche
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Almodis Of Limoges
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Adelmode De La Marche
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Geraud De Montignac
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Amelia De Rasez
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Nonia De Granol
|        |        |         \-----Maud Of Toulouse
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
|        |        |                 |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Duxia
|        |        |                  \-----Emma De MORTAIN
|        |        |                          |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
|        |        |                          |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|        |        |                          |        |         \-----Emma
|        |        |                           \-----Maud De Montgomery
|        |        |                                   |         /-----William II TALVAS
|        |        |                                    \-----Mabel De Belesme
|        |        |                                             \-----Hildeburg
|         \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
|                 |                                    /-----Foucaud I Seigneur De La Roche In Angoumoia
|                 |                           /-----Hugh De La ROCUEFOUCAUD, Vicount Of Chateller
|                 |                          |         \-----Jarsendia
|                 |                  /-----Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Arnold Vicount Of Chatellerault
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Bosso Vicount Of Chatellerault
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Gersinde
|                 |                 |         \-----Gergerga
|                 |                 |                  \-----Amelia
|                 |         /-----Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Savaric III Vicomte De Thouars
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Geoffrey II Vicount Of Thouars
|                 |        |        |         /-----Aimery IV De THOUARS, Vicomte De Thouars
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Eudes I Count Of Blois
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Aenor
|                 |        |        |        |                  \-----Bertha Of Burgandy
|                 |        |         \-----Eleanor De THOUARS
|                 |        |                  \-----Aurengarge De MAULEON
|                  \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
|                          |                  /-----Archembaud Borel Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|                          |         /-----Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Bouchard II Sire De Isle And Riviere
|                          |        |        |         /-----Hugues Sire De Isle-Bouchard
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Hermengarde De Villaines
|                          |        |         \-----Agnes
|                           \-----Dangerose
|                                    \-----Gerberga
Lucy



Descendants of Lucy
1. Lucy m1. Robert De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley m2. Hugh De GOURNAY
m. Robert De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley father: Maurice FITZROBERT FITZHARDING, Baron Of Berkele mother: Alice De BERKELEY
m. Hugh De GOURNAY father: Hugh De GOURNAY mother: Julia De DAMMARTIN