Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.

Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.

Individual Page

Person Info

Name: William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
Sex: M
Birth: 20 Nov 1253 ^b
Death: Abt 16 Sep 1295 ^d

Parents:

Father:
Sir William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich Birth: Before 1209 Death: Before 12 Feb 1271/2

Mother:

Sibyl

Family:
Marriage:

Elizabeth .^m1
Elizabeth Death: After 1308

Children:

Mary De SAY
Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say Birth: Abt 1282 Death: Before 3 Mar 1321/2

Bibliography

Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 07 Hussee-Lincolnshire. London: St Catherine Press, 1929. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VII [Ap][p0-9].*].
Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information

date:: [Ref: CP XI p473, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p567],
parents:: [Ref: CP XI p473, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p565],
father:: [Ref: Burke Peerage p1790, Sanders Baronies p98]

Sources for death Information

date:: 1295 [Ref: Burke Peerage p1790, Sanders Baronies p98]; 23 Edw I (1295) [Ref: Foss Judges p589]; before 16 Sep 1295 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p567]; on or before 16 Sep 1295 [Ref: CP XI p474]

Sources with Information about marriage to Elizabeth

child:: [Ref: CP XI p474, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p101, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p567]

Research Notes:
Knt, of Edmonton, Middlesex, West Greenwich, Birling, Bourne (in Bishopsbourn), Burham, and Cudham, Kent, Great Linton, Cambridgeshire, Sawbridgeworth and Pisbobury (in Sawbridgeworth), Hertfordshire, Hartwell, Northamptonshire, Hamsey, and Newtimber, Sussex [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p567]
of Edmonton, Middlesex, West Greenwich, Kent, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p101]

heir of his father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p567]

inherited Barony of West Greenwich from father [Ref: Sanders Baronies p97]

Pedigree of William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
                                              /-----William De SAY
                                     /-----Jordan De SAY
                                    |        |                  /-----Robert De Grentmesnil
                                    |        |         /-----Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
                                    |        |        |         \-----Hawise De Echafour
                                    |         \-----Agnes De GRANDMESNIL
                                    |                 |         /-----Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
                                    |                  \-----Adeliza Of Beaumont
                                    |                           \-----Judith
                            /-----William De SAY
                           |        |                  /-----Rainfred De RUMILLY
                           |        |         /-----Robert De RUMILLY, Baron Of Skipton
                           |         \-----Lucy De RUMILLY
                   /-----Geoffrey De SAY
                  |        |                  /-----Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
                  |        |         /-----William De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
                  |        |        |         \-----Athelaise
                  |         \-----Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
                  |                 |                  /-----Hubert De Ryes
                  |                 |         /-----Eudo De RIE, Dapifer
                  |                  \-----Margaret RIE
                  |                          |                  /-----Gilbert Count Of Brionne
                  |                          |         /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
                  |                           \-----Rohais
                  |                                   |         /-----Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
                  |                                    \-----Rohese GIFFARD
                  |                                             \-----Ermengarde FLATEL
          /-----Sir Geoffrey De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
         |        |                                    /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
         |        |                           /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
         |        |                  /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
         |        |                 |         \-----Matilda
         |        |         /-----John De CHESNEY
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Sir Robert De Courbepine
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Gilbert De MAMINOT, Bishop Of Lisieux
         |        |        |        |         /-----Hugh MAMINOT, Baron Of West Greenwich
         |        |        |         \-----Alice MAMINOT
         |        |        |                 |         /-----(Unk) PEVEREL
         |        |        |                  \-----(Unk) PEVEREL
         |         \-----Alice De CHESNEY
         |                  \-----Sibil
/-----Sir William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
|        |                                                      /-----Gilbert Count Of Brionne
|        |                                             /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
|        |                                    /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
|        |                                   |         \-----Rohese GIFFARD
|        |                                   |                  \-----Ermengarde FLATEL
|        |                           /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
|        |                          |        |         /-----Hugh Count Of Clermont
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Ermengardis
|        |                          |         \-----Adeliza De CLERMONT
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
|        |                          |                  \-----Margaret De Roucy
|        |                          |                           \-----Adele De Roucy
|        |                  /-----Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Ranulph I De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Ranulph II De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Alice Of Normandy
|        |                 |        |         /-----Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Richard Le Goz, Vicomte D'Avranches
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Margaret Le Goz
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----Emma
|        |                 |         \-----Adeliza Le MESCHIN
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----(Unk)
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Thorold Of Buckingham, Sheriff Of Lincoln
|        |                 |                  \-----Lucia Of East Angies
|        |                 |                          |         /-----William MALET
|        |                 |                           \-----(Unk Dau)
|        |                 |                                    \-----Esilia CRISPIN
|        |         /-----Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford, MC Surety
|        |        |        |                                    /-----(Unk) De St James
|        |        |        |                           /-----Eudo De St James
|        |        |        |                  /-----Hasculf De St JAMES, Baron Of Field Dalling
|        |        |        |         /-----James De St HILARY, Baron Of Field Dalling
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Matilda
|        |        |         \-----Maud St. HILLARY
|        |        |                  \-----Aveline
|         \-----Hawise De CLARE
|                 |                                             /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
|                 |                                    /-----William The Conqueror King Of England
|                 |                                   |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|                 |                           /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
|                 |                          |        |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Flanders
|                 |                          |         \-----Maud Of Flanders
|                 |                          |                  \-----Adelaide Of France
|                 |                  /-----Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
|                 |         /-----William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Hamon-Aux-Dents Lord Of Torigny
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Hamon Sheriff Of Kent
|                 |        |        |         /-----Robert FITZ HAMOND, Lord Of Tewkesbury
|                 |        |         \-----Maud FITZ HAMOND
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
|                 |        |                 |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|                 |        |                 |        |         \-----Emma
|                 |        |                  \-----Sybil De Montgomery
|                 |        |                          |         /-----William II TALVAS
|                 |        |                           \-----Mabel De Belesme
|                 |        |                                    \-----Hildeburg
|                  \-----Amice MEULANT, Countess Of Gloucester
|                          |                                    /-----Humphrey De Vieilles
|                          |                           /-----Roger De Beaumont
|                          |                          |         \-----Aubreye De La Haie
|                          |                  /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|                          |                 |        |         /-----Waleran Count Of Meulan
|                          |                 |         \-----Adelise Of Meulan
|                          |                 |                  \-----Ode
|                          |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Henry I King Of France
|                          |        |        |         /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Anne Of Kiev
|                          |        |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|                          |        |                 |         /-----Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
|                          |        |                  \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
|                          |        |                           \-----Adela De Valois
|                           \-----Hawise DeBEAUMONT
|                                   |                           /-----Ralph De Gael, Earl Of Norfolk
|                                   |                  /-----Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
|                                   |                 |         \-----Getha
|                                   |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
|                                   |        |        |         /-----William Fitz Osbern, Earl Of Hereford
|                                   |        |         \-----Emma Fitz Osbern
|                                   |        |                  \-----Adelise De TONI
|                                    \-----Amicia De Gael
William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich
\-----Sibyl

Descendants of William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich

1. William De SAY, Baron Of West Greenwich m. Elizabeth

2+ Mary De SAY m. John De NORTHWODE

3+ Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say m. Idoine De LEYBURN

2nd generation

2. Mary De SAY m. John De NORTHWODE

m. John De NORTHWODE father: John De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode mother: Joan De BADLESMERE

4 Elizabeth De NORTHWODE m1. John De BRIANSON m2. Sir John JOCE m3. Elias De VAUX

5+ Joan De NORTHWODE m. Bewes De KNOVILL, Lord Knovill

3. Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say m. Idoine De LEYBURN

m. Idoine De LEYBURN father: William De LEYBURN, Lord Leyburn mother: Juliane De SANDWICH

6+ Juliane De SAY m. Roger De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode

7+ Katherine De SAY m. John De St JOHN, Lord St John Of Lageham

8 Isabel De SAY m. John De CHAMPAIGNE

9 Sir Roger De SAY

10 Ralph De SAY

11+ Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say m. Maud De BEAUCHAMP

3rd generation

5. Joan De NORTHWODE m. Bewes De KNOVILL, Lord Knovill

m. Bewes De KNOVILL, Lord Knovill father: Bewes De KNOVILL, Lord Knovill mother: Joan De La HYDE

12 John De KNOVILL, Lord Knovill m. Margaret ; Margaret

6. Juliane De SAY m. Roger De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode

m. Roger De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode father: John De NORTHWODE mother: Agnes De GRANDISON

13 Sir Roger De NORTHWODE

14 Geoffrey De NORTHWODE

15 Agnes De NORTHWODE

16+ John De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode m. Joan HERT

7. Katherine De SAY m. John De St JOHN, Lord St John Of Lageham

m. John De St JOHN, Lord St John Of Lageham father: John De St JOHN, Lord St John Of Lageham mother: Margery

17 Roger De St JOHN, Lord St John Of Lageham m. Joan ; Joan

18 William De St JOHN

19 Nicholas De St JOHN

11. Geoffrey De SAY, Lord Say m. Maud De BEAUCHAMP

m. Maud De BEAUCHAMP father: Sir Guy De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick mother: Alice De TOENI

20+ Idonea De SAY m. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton

21+ Joan De SAY m1. Sir William FIENNES m2. Stephen De VALOINES

22+ Elizabeth De SAY m. Thomas De ALDOUN

23 Sir John De SAY m. Elizabeth

24 Sir Thomas De SAY

25+ William De SAY, Lord Say m. Beatrice De BREWOSE

4th generation

16. John De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode m. Joan HERT

m. Joan HERT father: Robert HERT

26+ William De NORTHWODE m. Alice

27+ James De NORTHWODE m.

28 Joan De NORTHWODE m. Sir John DENGAINE; Sir John DENGAINE father: Sir John DENGAINE mother: Joan

29 John De NORTHWODE

30 Roger De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode m. Eleanor SAVAGE

31+ Juliane De NORTHWODE m. John DYGGE

20. Idonea De SAY m. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton

m. Sir John CLINTON, Lord Clinton father: John CLINTON, Lord Clinton mother: Margarey CORBET

32+ Sir William CLINTON m. Elizabeth DEINCOURT

33 Sir Thomas CLINTON

34 Edward CLINTON

35 Katherine CLINTON m. Thomas BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley; Thomas BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley father: Maurice De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley mother: Elizabeth DESPENSER

21. Joan De SAY m1. Sir William FIENNES m2. Stephen De VALOINES

m. Sir William FIENNES father: Sir John FIENNES mother: Maud De MONCEUX

36 John FIENNES

37+ Sir William FIENNES m. Elizabeth BATISFORD

m. Stephen De VALOINES

22. Elizabeth De SAY m. Thomas De ALDOUN

m. Thomas De ALDOUN father: Sir Thomas De ALDOUN

38 Maud De ALDOUN m. Thomas BESENHO

39 Mary De ALDOUN m1. Otho WORTHINGTON m2. Richard De HERTHILL

40 Thomas De ALDOUN

25. William De SAY, Lord Say m. Beatrice De BREWOSE

m. Beatrice De BREWOSE father: Sir Thomas De BREWOSE, Lord Brewose mother: Beatrice MORTIMER

41 Elizabeth De SAY m1. Sir John FALVESLEY, Lord Falvesley m2. Sir William HERON, Lord Heron; Sir William HERON, Lord Heron father: Sir John HERON

42 John De SAY, Lord Say

5th generation

26. William De NORTHWODE m. Alice

43 John De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode m. Alice De IKELINGTON

27. James De NORTHWODE m.

44+ Elizabeth De NORTHWODE m. Piers CATTES

45+ Eleanor De NORTHWODE m. John ADAM

46 John De NORTHWODE

31. Juliane De NORTHWODE m. John DYGGE

m. John DYGGE father: Roger DYGGE mother: Albina

47 Isabel DYGGE

48 Cecily DYGGE m. (Unk) CLINTON

49 Joan DYGGE m. (Unk) SACKVILLE

50+ Elizabeth DYGGE m. Henry AUCHER

51+ John DYGGE m. Juliane HORNE

32. Sir William CLINTON m. Elizabeth DEINCOURT

m. Elizabeth DEINCOURT father: Sir William DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt mother: Milicent La ZOUCHE

52+ William CLINTON, Lord Clinton m1. Anne TRIVETT m2. Anne BOTREAUX m3. Mary

37. Sir William FIENNES m. Elizabeth BATISFORD

m. Elizabeth BATISFORD father: William BATISFORD mother: Margaret PEPLESHAM

53+ Sir Roger FIENNES m. Elizabeth HOLLAND

54+ Sir James FIENNES, Lord Saye And Sele m1. Joan m2. Emiline CROMER