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Family:
Marriage:
  • Ida on Before 18 Dec 1139 .m1
  • Ida Death: Abt 1180
Children:
  1. John I De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu Death: 30 Jun 1191 in Acre

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
  3. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  4. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  5. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  6. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
  7. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
elder brother of John [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p226]
first son [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p236],
parents:
[Ref: CP XI p697(k), Keats-Rohan DD p226, Keats-Rohan DD p236, Moriarty Plantagenet p113, Roberts RD600 p538, Watney WALLOP #696, Weis AR7 #109]
Sources for death Information
date:
(25.XII) 1147 [Ref: ES III.4 #638]
1147 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p113, Watney WALLOP #696, Watney WALLOP #800, Weis AR7 #109],
place:
[Ref: ES III.4 #638]
Sources with Information about marriage to Ida
date:
or 18.XII 1139 [Ref: ES III.4 #638],
names:
[Ref: Watney WALLOP #696],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p113, Roberts RD600 p538, Watney WALLOP #800, Weis AR7 #109]
Research Notes:
Count of Ponthieu [Ref: CP XI p697(k), Keats-Rohan DD p226, Keats-Rohan DD p236, Roberts RD600 p538, Weis AR7 #109]

inherited the county of Ponthieu [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p226]

died while on 2nd Crusade [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p113]



Pedigree of Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
                                     /-----Hugh De Montgomery
                            /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
                           |         \-----Josceline
                           |                 |         /-----(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
                           |                  \-----Senfrie
                   /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
                  |         \-----Emma
          /-----Robert II De Belesme, Count Of Alencon
         |        |                                    /-----Yves De BELLEME, Seigneur De Belleme
         |        |                           /-----Guilleume Lord of Belleme
         |        |                          |        |         /-----(Unk)
         |        |                          |         \-----Godehaut
         |        |                  /-----William I Count Of Alencon And Bellasme
         |        |                 |         \-----Mathilda Dame De Conde-Sur-Noireau
         |        |         /-----William II TALVAS
         |        |        |         \-----Mathilde
         |         \-----Mabel De Belesme
         |                 |         /-----Arnulf
         |                  \-----Hildeburg
 /-----William III TALVAS, Count Of Alencon And Ponthieu
|        |                                                      /-----Roger Count Of Montreuil
|        |                                             /-----Hugh
|        |                                    /-----Hugh I Count Of Ponthieu
|        |                           /-----Enguerrand I Count Of Ponthieu
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris
|        |                          |        |         /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Hedwig Of Saxony
|        |                          |         \-----Gisle Of France
|        |                          |                 |         /-----William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|        |                          |                  \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
|        |                          |                           \-----Gerloc Of Normandy
|        |                  /-----Hugh II Count Of Ponthieu
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Thierri I Count Of West Friesland
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Thierri II Count Of West Friesland
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Geva
|        |                 |        |         /-----Arnulf Count Of Holland And Ghent
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Arnold I The Old Count Of Flanders
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Flanders
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----Alix De Vermandois
|        |                 |         \-----Adela Of Holland
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Wigeric Count in Bidgau
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Siegfried Count Of Luxemburg
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Cunegunde
|        |                 |                  \-----Luitgard Of Luxembourg
|        |                 |                          |         /-----Ebergard Count In The Nordgau, Count Of Alsace
|        |                 |                           \-----Hedwig Of Nordgau
|        |                 |                                    \-----Bertha
|        |         /-----Guy I Count Of Ponthieu
|        |        |        |         /-----Guenfroi Count Of Aumale
|        |        |         \-----Bertha Of Aumale
|         \-----Agnes Of Ponthieu
|                  \-----Ada
Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
|                                                               /-----Robert I King Of France
|                                                      /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris
|                                                     |         \-----Beatrix Of Vermandois
|                                             /-----Hugh Capet King Of France
|                                            |        |         /-----Henry I The Fowler King Of The Saxons
|                                            |         \-----Hedwig Of Saxony
|                                            |                  \-----Mechtilde Of Westfalen
|                                    /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|                                   |        |                  /-----Ebles Mancer Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|                                   |        |         /-----William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
|                                   |        |        |         \-----Emliane
|                                   |         \-----Adelaide Of Poitou
|                                   |                 |         /-----Hrolfr (Rollo) Duke Of Normandy
|                                   |                  \-----Gerloc Of Normandy
|                                   |                           \-----Poppa
|                           /-----Robert The Old Duke Of Burgundy
|                          |        |                           /-----Rotbaudo Seigneur De Angelcas
|                          |        |                  /-----Boso II Count Of Provence
|                          |        |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Aquitaine
|                          |        |         /-----William I Count Of Aries And Provence
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Charles Constantine Count Of Vienna
|                          |        |        |         \-----Constance
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Teutberg
|                          |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|                          |                 |                  /-----Fulk Le Roux Count Of Anjou
|                          |                 |         /-----Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou
|                          |                 |        |         \-----Roscilla
|                          |                  \-----Adelaide (Blanch) Of Anjou
|                          |                          |         /-----Gausfred Count Of Nevers
|                          |                           \-----Gerberga Of Nevers
|                          |                                    \-----Aba
|                  /-----Henry Of Burgundy
|                 |        |                                    /-----Joceran Seigneur De Semur
|                 |        |                           /-----Geoffrey I Seigneur De Semur
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Ricosire
|                 |        |                  /-----Geoffrey II Seigneur De Semur
|                 |        |         /-----Dalmus I Of Semur En Auxois
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Etienne Vicount Of Brioude
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Damas Vicomte De Brioude
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Ermengarde
|                 |        |        |         \-----(Unk) Of Brioude
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----William Le Pieux, Duke Of Aquitaine
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Engelberge
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Ingelburga
|                 |         \-----Helle Of Semur En Auxois
|                 |                 |                           /-----Robert I King Of France
|                 |                 |                  /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Beatrix Of Vermandois
|                 |                 |         /-----Henry Duke Of Burgundy
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Henry I The Fowler King Of The Saxons
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Hedwig Of Saxony
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Mechtilde Of Westfalen
|                 |                  \-----Aremburge De Vergy
|                 |                          |                  /-----Robert Vicomte Of Dijon, Count Of Auton
|                 |                          |         /-----Lambert Count Of Chalons, Viconte Of Dijon
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Engeltrude
|                 |                           \-----Mahaut Heiress Of Chalons
|                 |                                    \-----Adelaide Heiress of Chalons
|         /-----Eudes I Borrel Duke Of Burgundy
|        |        |                                             /-----Wilfred Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                                    /-----Suniario Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Winidilds
|        |        |                           /-----Borrell II Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
|        |        |                          |         \-----Richild Of Toulouse
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Adelaide
|        |        |                  /-----Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Raymond II Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Raimond Pons Count Of Toulouse
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Gunhilde
|        |        |                 |         \-----Luitgard
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Garsinde
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Adelaide
|        |        |         /-----Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Arnold I Count Of Carcassone
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Roger I Count Of Carcassone
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Arsinde Heiress Of Carcassone
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Arsinde
|        |        |        |         \-----Ermisende
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Berenger Count Of Melgueil
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Bernard II Count Of Melgueil
|        |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Guisle
|        |        |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of Pons
|        |        |        |                          |         /-----Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
|        |        |        |                           \-----Sonegonde
|        |        |        |                                    \-----Arsinde
|        |         \-----(Unk) Of Barcelona
|        |                 |         /-----Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
|        |                  \-----Guisle Of Lluca
|        |                           \-----Ermendinde Of Balsareny
 \-----Helie/Alice Of Burgandy
         |                                                      /-----Adalbert The Rich Margrave Of Ivrea
         |                                             /-----Berengar II King Of Italy
         |                                            |         \-----Gisele Of Friuli
         |                                    /-----Adalbert Marquess Of Ivrea
         |                                   |        |         /-----Boso Count Of Aries
         |                                   |         \-----Willa Of Aries
         |                                   |                  \-----Willa Of Tuscany
         |                           /-----Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
         |                          |        |                  /-----Robert Vicomte Of Dijon, Count Of Auton
         |                          |        |         /-----Lambert Count Of Chalons, Viconte Of Dijon
         |                          |        |        |         \-----Engeltrude
         |                          |         \-----Gerberga
         |                  /-----Raynald I Count Of Burgundy
         |                 |        |                  /-----Rogenvald
         |                 |        |         /-----Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
         |                 |         \-----Ermentrude Of Roucy
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Regnier I Count Of Hainaut
         |                 |                 |         /-----Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Alberade Of Mons
         |                 |                  \-----Alberade Of Lorraine
         |                 |                          |         /-----Henry I The Fowler King Of The Saxons
         |                 |                           \-----Gerberga Of Saxony
         |                 |                                    \-----Mechtilde Of Westfalen
         |         /-----William I The Great Count Of Burgundy
         |        |        |                                    /-----Hrolfr (Rollo) Duke Of Normandy
         |        |        |                           /-----William Longspee Duke Of Normandy
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Poppa
         |        |        |                  /-----Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Espriota
         |        |        |         /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
         |        |        |        |         \-----Gunnora
         |        |         \-----Alice Of Normandy
         |        |                 |                           /-----Paskurtan Count Of Rennes
         |        |                 |                  /-----Judhael Count Of Rennes
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) Heiress Of Rennes
         |        |                 |         /-----Conan I Duke Of Brittany
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Gerberge
         |        |                  \-----Judith Of Brittany
         |        |                          |                  /-----Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou
         |        |                          |         /-----Geoffrey I Grisgonelle Count Of Anjou
         |        |                          |        |         \-----Gerberga Of Nevers
         |        |                           \-----Ermengarde Of Anjou
         |        |                                   |         /-----Robert Count Of Troyes
         |        |                                    \-----Adele Of Troyes
         |        |                                             \-----Adelaide Of Burgundy
          \-----Matilda (Sibylle) Of Burgundy
                  |                                             /-----Wilfred Count Of Barcelona
                  |                                    /-----Suniario Count Of Barcelona
                  |                                   |         \-----Winidilds
                  |                           /-----Borrell II Count Of Barcelona
                  |                          |        |         /-----Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
                  |                          |         \-----Richild Of Toulouse
                  |                          |                  \-----Adelaide
                  |                  /-----Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
                  |                 |        |                  /-----Raymond II Count Of Toulouse
                  |                 |        |         /-----Raimond Pons Count Of Toulouse
                  |                 |        |        |         \-----Gunhilde
                  |                 |         \-----Luitgard
                  |                 |                 |         /-----Ermengald Count Of Rouergue
                  |                 |                  \-----Garsinde
                  |                 |                           \-----Adelaide
                  |         /-----Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
                  |        |        |                  /-----Arnold I Count Of Carcassone
                  |        |        |         /-----Roger I Count Of Carcassone
                  |        |        |        |        |         /-----Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
                  |        |        |        |         \-----Arsinde Heiress Of Carcassone
                  |        |        |        |                  \-----Arsinde
                  |        |         \-----Ermisende
                  |        |                 |                  /-----Berenger Count Of Melgueil
                  |        |                 |         /-----Bernard II Count Of Melgueil
                  |        |                 |        |         \-----Guisle
                  |        |                  \-----Adelaide Of Pons
                  |        |                          |         /-----Acfrid Count Of Carcassone
                  |        |                           \-----Sonegonde
                  |        |                                    \-----Arsinde
                   \-----Stephanie Of Barcelona
                           |         /-----Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
                            \-----Guisle Of Lluca
                                     \-----Ermendinde Of Balsareny



Descendants of Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
1. Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu m. Ida
m. Ida

2nd generation

2. John I De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu m1. Matilda m2. Laure De St VALERY m3. Beatrice Of St. Pol
m. Matilda
m. Laure De St VALERY father: Reginald De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
m. Beatrice Of St. Pol father: Anselme CANDAVAINE, Count Of St. Pol

3rd generation

3. Adele De PONTHIEU m. Thomas De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
m. Thomas De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley father: Bernard De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley mother: Matilda
4. Marguerite Of Poitou m. Enguerrand Vidame Of Amiens
m. Enguerrand Vidame Of Amiens father: Guermond Lord Of Picquigny, Vidame Of Amiens mother: Flandrine Of Amiens
5. Helen De PONTHIEU m. Guillaume Lord Of Estoutemont
m. Guillaume Lord Of Estoutemont father: Nicolas I Lord Of Valmont mother: Juliana
6. William III De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu m. Alice Of France
m. Alice Of France father: Louis VII The Young King Of France mother: Constance Of Castile

4th generation

7. Aenor Of St Valery m1. Robert III Count Of Dreux m2. Henry I Sire De Sully, Count Of Dreux
m. Robert III Count Of Dreux father: Robert II Count Of Dreux mother: Yolande De COUCY
m. Henry I Sire De Sully, Count Of Dreux father: Archembaud IV Sire De Sully mother: Alix
8. Girard Lord Of Picquigny m1. Laure De MONTFORT m2. Alix Of Vierzon m3. Mathile Of Crecques
m. Laure De MONTFORT father: Simon IV De MONTFORT L'AUMARY mother: Alix De MONTMORENCY
m. Alix Of Vierzon father: Herve III Lord Of Vierzon mother: Marie Of Dampierre
m. Mathile Of Crecques father: Anseau II Of Crecques mother: Beatrix Of Guines
9. Alice Of Stratfield m. Robert De SAY
m. Robert De SAY
10. Marie Countess Of Ponthieu m1. Simon De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Aumale m2. Mathieu De MONTMORENCY
m. Simon De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Aumale father: Alberic II De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Dammartin mother: Maud Of Clermont
m. Mathieu De MONTMORENCY father: Matthew II Sire De Montmorency mother: Gertrude Of Soissons

5th generation

12. Yolande De DREUX m. Hugh IV Duke Of Burgundy
m. Hugh IV Duke Of Burgundy father: Eudes III Duke Of Burgundy mother: Alice De VERGY
13. John I Count Of Dreux m. Maria Of Bourbon
m. Maria Of Bourbon father: Archambaud IX De DAMPIERRE, Seigneur De Bourbon mother: Beatrix De MONTHUCON
14. Robert I Of Dreux, Lord Of Beu m1. Clemence Of Chateaudun m2. Isabeau Of Villeboon
m. Clemence Of Chateaudun father: Geoffrey VI Vicomte De Chateaudun mother: Clemence Of Roches
m. Isabeau Of Villeboon father: Adam II Of Chatillon-Villebon mother: Alix Of Garlande
15. Jean Lord Of Picquigny m. Marguerite Of Beaumetz
m. Marguerite Of Beaumetz father: Gilles Of Beaumetz, Chatelian De Bapaume
16. Sir William De SAY m. Sybil
m. Sybil
17. Agatha De DAMMARTIN m. Aimeri II Viscount Of Chatellerault
m. Aimeri II Viscount Of Chatellerault father: Hugh II Vicount Of Chatellerault mother: Alice Of Alencon
18. Marie Of Dammartin m. Jean II Count Of Roucy, Lord Of Pierrepont
m. Jean II Count Of Roucy, Lord Of Pierrepont father: Robert I Lord Of Pierrepont mother: Eustachie Of Roucy
19. Phillipa Of Dammartin m1. Raoul Of Lusignan, Count Of Eu And Guines m2. Raoul II Sire De Coucy m3. Otto II Count Of Gelders
m. Raoul Of Lusignan, Count Of Eu And Guines father: Raoul I De LUSIGNAN, Count D'Eu mother: Alice D'EU, Countess Of Eu, Lady Of Hastings
m. Raoul II Sire De Coucy father: Enguerrand III Lord Of Coucy mother: Mary Of Montmirail
m. Otto II Count Of Gelders father: Gerard III Count Of Gelders mother: Margarethe Of Brabant
20. Joan De DAMMARTIN m1. Henry III King Of England m2. Fernando III The Saint King Of Castile And Leon m3. Jean De Nesle
m. Henry III King Of England father: John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England mother: Isabel Of Angouleme
m. Fernando III The Saint King Of Castile And Leon father: Alfonso IX King Of Leon mother: Berengaria Of Castile
m. Jean De Nesle father: Raoul Lord Of Falvy mother: Adele Of Roys