Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Alice De Harcourt Death: After Sep 1212
- William De HARCOURT, Gov Of Tamworth Castle Death: 6 Apr 1223
Bibliography
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. X: Pairs de France und ihre Familien. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1986. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES X #[0-9]*].
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Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of William Brewster, Revised Edition, October 1969. LDS Film#1738313 item#5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Holloway WENTWORTH p[0-9a]*].
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Ravilious, John, Ralph Limesi - Odingselles - Cavendish - Stafford. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/22/2004. Subject: Are Odingselles descended from Odingselles?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/K0lkcRbKVIg/m/H9lJDO2sN5YJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/22/2004-164318].
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Ravilious, John, Melisent of Rethel and her sons. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/15/2009. Subject: Melisent of Rethel and her son/s. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/1tiYSAZPQDs/m/HGjTyC9Q4dwJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 4/15/2009-233112].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
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Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p938, John Ravilious SGM 4/15/2009-233112, Watney
WALLOP #499],
- father:
- [Ref: CP XII/2 p364, ES X #139, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p320, Weis AR7
#84],
- mother:
- [Ref: Watney WALLOP #200],
- name:
- Isabel [Ref: Burke Peerage p938, CP XII/2 p364, Holloway WENTWORTH p15,
John Ravilious SGM 4/15/2009-233112, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p320, Watney WALLOP
#200, Watney WALLOP #499, Weis AR7 #84]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- father:
- Richard de Camville (#14081) (brother of Gerard and William) [Ref:
Watney WALLOP #200],
- mother:
- Margaret [Ref: ES X #139]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- after 1207/8 [Ref: Holloway WENTWORTH p15, Weis AR7 #84]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De Harcourt
- child:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p938, CP XII/2 p364, ES X #139, Holloway WENTWORTH
p15, John Ravilious SGM 11/22/2004-164318, Keats-Rohan DD p917, Richardson
RoyalAnc v5p320, Watney WALLOP #200, Watney WALLOP #499, Weis AR7 #84]
Research Notes:
heiress of her father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p320]
I noted your post questioning the 'traditional' assignment of the issue of
Richard de Camville "I" to his 2nd wife, Millicent (or Melisende) de Rethel.
Most researchers (myself included) have left all the children as being by
Millicent, but I think you are quite correct in questioning this, and the end
result likely will be separating a number of English descendants of the
Camvilles from this long-accepted link to Carolingian ancestry.
The placement of Isabel (wife of Robert de Harcourt) is solid. This has to
do with Millicent's maritagium of Stanton (later Stanton Harcourt) passing
with Isabel's marriage to the Harcourt family. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM
4/15/2009-233112]
Pedigree of Millicent De Camville
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Richard De Camville
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Alberic De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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(Unk Dau) De VERE
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Beatrix
Millicent De Camville
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Manasses I Count Of Rethel
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Manasses II Count Of Rethel
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Manasses III Count Of Rethel
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Rogenvald
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Judith Of Roucy
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Lutaud Count Of Macon
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Aubri Count Of Macon
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Ermengarde Of Chalon
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(Unk Dau)
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Hugh I Count Of Rethel
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Rogenvald
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Regnier I Count Of Hainaut
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Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine
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Alberade Of Mons
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Henry I The Fowler King Of The Saxons
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Mechtilde Of Westfalen
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Yevette
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Aubri Vicount Of Narbonne
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Lutaud Count Of Macon
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Attela Of Macon
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Aubri Count Of Macon
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Manasses I Count Of Vergy, Duxin, And Chalons
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Ermengarde Of Chalon
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Ermengarde
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(Unk Dau)
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Rogenvald
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Gervais Count Of Rethel
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Milon I Seigneur De La Ferte
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Guy Seigneur De Montchery And Bray
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Ansoud I Le Riche Vicomte De Auxerer
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Ansoud Le Riche Of Paris
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Raingarde
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Thibaud Seigneur Of Montchery And Cheverouse
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Reitrude
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(Unk Dau)
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Malisinde
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William Lord Of Burea
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Hodierna De La Ferte
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Milicent Of Rethel
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Berenger Count Of Namur
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Robert I Count Of Namur
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Symphonia
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Albert I Count Of Namur
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Otto Duke Of Lorraine
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Ermengarde Of Lorraine
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Albert II Count Of Namur
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Louis IV D'OUTRE-MER, King Of Franks
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Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Adelheid Of Lorraine
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Adelheid Of Ardennes
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Albert III Count Of Namur
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Gonzelon Count In Bidgau
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Godfrey Count Of Verdun
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Oda Of Metz
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Gothelo I Duke Of Upper And Lower Lorraine
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Hermann Billung Duke Of Saxony
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Matilda Of Saxony
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Hildegarde Of Westerbourg
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Regilinde Of Lorraine
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Conrad I Duke Of Swabia
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Conrad III Of Swabia, Count Of Ortenau
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Judith Of Marchtal
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Ita
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Frederick Count Of Verdon
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Beatrix
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Godfrey Count Of Namur
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Billung Count In Saxony
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Hermann Billung Duke Of Saxony
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Fraderuna
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Bernard I Duke Of Saxony
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Hildegarde Of Westerbourg
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Bernard II Duke Of Saxony
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Liuthar Count Of Stade
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Henry Count Of Stade
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Swanhilde
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Hildegard Of Stade
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Hildegard
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Ida Of Saxony
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Arnulf I The Bad Duke Of Bavaria
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Berthold I Margrave Of The Bavarian Nordgaus
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Judith
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Henrich Margrave Of Schweinfurt
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Lothar II Count Of Walbeck
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Eiliswintha Countess Of Walbeck
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Mathilda Of Arnsburg
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Eilika Of Schweinfurt
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Udo Count In The Wetterau
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Herbert I Count In The Kinziggau
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Cunegundis Of Vermandois
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Gerberga Of Gleiberg
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Megingoz Count Of The Avalgau
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Irmentrude
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Gerberga
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Elizabeth Of Namur
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Roger Count Of Chateau Porcien
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Sibylle Of Chateau Porcien
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Ermengarde
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