Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Mary Of Strathearn Death: After 1330
- Malise Earl Of Strathern, Caithness, And Orkney Birth: Abt 1290
Death: Before 11 Nov 1357
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Ravilious, John, Helen of Strathearn, wife of Sir David Graham. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 1/1/2006. Subject: Helen of Strathearn, daughter of Joanna de Menteith (revisited). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EdhQRQODrgE/m/XqhW5ehZSr8J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721].
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Ravilious, John, Helen de Menteith, wife of Sir Colin Campbell. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/11/2004. Subject: SP Addition: Helen de Menteith, wife of Sir Colin Campbell. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/e27YQvNUb5Q/m/_mYCVkGh4KIJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- abt 1275-80 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]
- first son [Ref: SP VIII p250],
- parents:
- [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, John Ravilious SGM 11/20/2008-171611, John
Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723, SP II p256 (with corr in IX p47), SP VIII
p250]
- Malise Earl of Strathearn & dau Alexander Comyn [Ref: Ravilious
EarlsMarch p94]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 1320s [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v13-93(77)]
- 1324-5 [Ref: SP VI p132]
- 1328 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723]
- before 1329 [Ref: CP II p476, CP XII/1 p385, CP XII/1 p388, CP XII/1
p544, Paget HRHCharles p211, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p607, SP VIII p251]
- between 1323 and 1329 [Ref: CP X AppA p30]
- vor 1329 [Ref: ES III.1 #158]
Sources with Information about marriage to Agnes
- date:
- first marriage of Malise [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251],
- names:
- Malise & unk first wife [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251],
- child:
- [Ref: CP II p476, CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan De MONTEITH
- date:
- abt 1323 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, Paget HRHCharles p211, SP VIII p251]
- first marriage of Joan [Ref: Burke Peerage p72, CP I p310, CP XII/1
p388, CP XII/1 p544, John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607]
- first marriage of Joanna [Ref: SP I p435, SP VI p132, SP VIII p327,
Thompson CharlesII v13-93(77)]
- um 1323 [Ref: ES III.1 #158],
- names:
- [Ref: Fraser MENTEITH p460]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Helen (#250169) [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721, John
Ravilious SGM 11/20/2008-171611, John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723]
Research Notes:
7th Earl of Strathern, of Earldom cr before 1124 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]
7th Earl of Strathearn [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p211]
heir of his father [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]
Pedigree of Malise Earl Of Strathearn
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Malise Earl Of Strathern
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Ferteth Earl Of Strathern
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Gilbert Earl Of Strathern
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Ethen
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Robert Earl Of Strathern
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Ralph IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
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Roger III De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
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Alice Of Northumberland
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Ralph V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
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Baldwin III Count Of Hainault
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Ida (Gertrude) Of Hainault
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Yolande Of Guelders
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Roger IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
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Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
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Margaret De BEAUMONT
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Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
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Amicia De Gael
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Margaret De TOSNY
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Raoul VII Vicount Of Fresnay, Beaumont, And St Suz
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Roscelin De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
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Adenor Of Laval
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Richard I De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
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Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
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Constance
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Constance De BEAUMONT
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Richard II Seigneur of l'Aigle
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Lucie De L'AIGLE
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Beatrice
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Malise Earl Of Strathern
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Freskin
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William FRESKIN
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Hugh De MORAVIA
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(Unk dau) De MORAVIA
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Constantine Earl Of Fife
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Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
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Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
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Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Justiciar Of Scot
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Annabela Of Fife
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Ela
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Malise Earl Of Strathern
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Gilbride Earl Of Angus
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Magnus Earl Of Caithness
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Madach Earl Of Atholl
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Harald MADDADSSON, Jarl Of Orkney
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Margaret
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John HARALDSSON, Jarl Of Orkney
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Malcolm II Earl Of Ross
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Gormflaeth
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(Unk dau)
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(Unk) Of Caithness
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Gilbert Earl Of Caithness And Orkney
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Maud Of Caithness
Malise Earl Of Strathearn
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(Unk) De COMYN
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(Unk) De COMYN
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Richard COMYN
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William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
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Waltheof Of Tynedale
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Uchtred Of Tynedale
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Hextilde of Tynedale
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Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
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Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
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Bethoc
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Domnall Bane (Donald) Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
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Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
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Sibylia Of Northumbria
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Aelflaed
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Bethoc Of Scotland
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Alexander COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
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Colban Earl Of Buchan
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Roger Earl Of Buchan
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Cainneach (Kenneth)
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Gartnach Mormaer Of Buchan
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Eve Countess Of Buchan
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Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
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Ete
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Fergus Earl Of Buchan
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Margaret Countess Of Buchan
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Agnes COMYN
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Saher De QUINCEY, Lord Of Buckby In Northampto
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Robert De QUINCEY
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Ranulph Le Rich
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Simon De St. LIZ, Earl Of Huntingdon
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Maud De ST LIZ
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Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
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Maud Of Huntingdon
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Judith Of Lens
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Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret
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William Lord Of Leuchars
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Ness Of Leuchars
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Orabella
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Roger De QUINCY, Earl Of Winchester
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Roger De Beaumont
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Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Adelise Of Meulan
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Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
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Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
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Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
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Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester
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Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
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Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
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Emma Fitz Osbern
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Amicia De Gael
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Margaret BEAUMONT
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Robert De GRANTMESNIL
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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William De GRANTMESNIL
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Robert De Estouteville
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Emma De Estouteville
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Beatrix
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Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL
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Elizabeth De QUINCY
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Fergus Lord Of Galloway
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Uchtred Of Galloway
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Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
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Sibyl/Elizabeth
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Sibyl CORBET
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Roland Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
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Gospatric I Earl Of Northumberland
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Waltheof Baron Of Allendale
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(Unk Dau)
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Gunnild Of Dunbar
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Sigrid
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Alan Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
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(Unk) De MORVILLE
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Hugh De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
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Richard De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
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Robert BEAUCHAMP
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Beatrice BEAUCHAMP
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Elena De MORVILLE
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Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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Goditha
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Avice De LANCASTER
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Helen Of Galloway
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Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
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Richard FITZ EUSTACE, Constable Of Chester
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Agnes De HALTON
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John Fitz Richard, Constable Of Chester
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Robert LIZOURS
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Albreada LIZOURS, Baroness Of Pontfract
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Aubrey De LACY
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Roger De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract
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Richard
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Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
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Jane BIGOD
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Alice Fitz Roger
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Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Alice De VERE
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Adeliza De CLARE
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(Unk Dau) De LACY
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Ebrard III Seigneur De Puiset
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Hugh III Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
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Adelaide Of Corbeil
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Ebrard IV Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
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Stephen Count Of Blois, Leader Of First Crusade
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Agnes
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Adela
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Maud De CLERE
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Heloise De ROUCY
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