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  1. Mary Of Strathearn Death: After 1330
  2. Malise Earl Of Strathern, Caithness, And Orkney Birth: Abt 1290 Death: Before 11 Nov 1357

Marriage:
Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1275-80 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]
first son [Ref: SP VIII p250],
parents:
[Ref: CP XII/1 p385, John Ravilious SGM 11/20/2008-171611, John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723, SP II p256 (with corr in IX p47), SP VIII p250]
Malise Earl of Strathearn & dau Alexander Comyn [Ref: Ravilious EarlsMarch p94]
Sources for death Information
date:
1320s [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v13-93(77)]
1324-5 [Ref: SP VI p132]
1328 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723]
before 1329 [Ref: CP II p476, CP XII/1 p385, CP XII/1 p388, CP XII/1 p544, Paget HRHCharles p211, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607, SP VIII p251]
between 1323 and 1329 [Ref: CP X AppA p30]
vor 1329 [Ref: ES III.1 #158]
Sources with Information about marriage to Agnes
date:
first marriage of Malise [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251],
names:
Malise & unk first wife [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251],
child:
[Ref: CP II p476, CP XII/1 p385, SP VIII p251]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan De MONTEITH
date:
abt 1323 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385, Paget HRHCharles p211, SP VIII p251]
first marriage of Joan [Ref: Burke Peerage p72, CP I p310, CP XII/1 p388, CP XII/1 p544, John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607]
first marriage of Joanna [Ref: SP I p435, SP VI p132, SP VIII p327, Thompson CharlesII v13-93(77)]
um 1323 [Ref: ES III.1 #158],
names:
[Ref: Fraser MENTEITH p460]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Helen (#250169) [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721, John Ravilious SGM 11/20/2008-171611, John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161723]
Research Notes:
7th Earl of Strathern, of Earldom cr before 1124 [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]
7th Earl of Strathearn [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p211]

heir of his father [Ref: CP XII/1 p385]



Pedigree of Malise Earl Of Strathearn
                                              /-----Malise Earl Of Strathern
                                     /-----Ferteth Earl Of Strathern
                            /-----Gilbert Earl Of Strathern
                           |         \-----Ethen
                   /-----Robert Earl Of Strathern
                  |        |                                    /-----Ralph IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
                  |        |                           /-----Roger III De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
                  |        |                          |         \-----Alice Of Northumberland
                  |        |                  /-----Ralph V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Baldwin III Count Of Hainault
                  |        |                 |         \-----Ida (Gertrude) Of Hainault
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Yolande Of Guelders
                  |        |         /-----Roger IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
                  |        |        |         \-----Margaret De BEAUMONT
                  |        |        |                 |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
                  |        |        |                  \-----Amicia De Gael
                  |         \-----Margaret De TOSNY
                  |                 |                           /-----Raoul VII Vicount Of Fresnay, Beaumont, And St Suz
                  |                 |                  /-----Roscelin De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Adenor Of Laval
                  |                 |         /-----Richard I De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
                  |                 |        |         \-----Constance
                  |                  \-----Constance De BEAUMONT
                  |                          |         /-----Richard II Seigneur of l'Aigle
                  |                           \-----Lucie De L'AIGLE
                  |                                    \-----Beatrice
          /-----Malise Earl Of Strathern
         |        |                           /-----Freskin
         |        |                  /-----William FRESKIN
         |        |         /-----Hugh De MORAVIA
         |         \-----(Unk dau) De MORAVIA
         |                 |                                    /-----Constantine Earl Of Fife
         |                 |                           /-----Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
         |                 |                  /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
         |                 |         /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Justiciar Of Scot
         |                  \-----Annabela Of Fife
         |                           \-----Ela
 /-----Malise Earl Of Strathern
|        |                           /-----Gilbride Earl Of Angus
|        |                  /-----Magnus Earl Of Caithness
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Madach Earl Of Atholl
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Harald MADDADSSON, Jarl Of Orkney
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Margaret
|        |                 |        |         /-----John HARALDSSON, Jarl Of Orkney
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Malcolm II Earl Of Ross
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Gormflaeth
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----(Unk dau)
|        |                 |         \-----(Unk) Of Caithness
|        |         /-----Gilbert Earl Of Caithness And Orkney
|         \-----Maud Of Caithness
Malise Earl Of Strathearn
|                                             /-----(Unk) De COMYN
|                                    /-----(Unk) De COMYN
|                           /-----Richard COMYN
|                  /-----William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
|                 |        |                  /-----Waltheof Of Tynedale
|                 |        |         /-----Uchtred Of Tynedale
|                 |         \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
|                 |                 |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
|                 |                 |                  /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Bethoc
|                 |                 |         /-----Domnall Bane (Donald) Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Aelflaed
|                 |                  \-----Bethoc Of Scotland
|         /-----Alexander COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
|        |        |                           /-----Colban Earl Of Buchan
|        |        |                  /-----Roger Earl Of Buchan
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Cainneach (Kenneth)
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Gartnach Mormaer Of Buchan
|        |        |                 |         \-----Eve Countess Of Buchan
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Ete
|        |        |         /-----Fergus Earl Of Buchan
|        |         \-----Margaret Countess Of Buchan
 \-----Agnes COMYN
         |                                    /-----Saher De QUINCEY, Lord Of Buckby In Northampto
         |                           /-----Robert De QUINCEY
         |                          |        |                  /-----Ranulph Le Rich
         |                          |        |         /-----Simon De St. LIZ, Earl Of Huntingdon
         |                          |         \-----Maud De ST LIZ
         |                          |                 |         /-----Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
         |                          |                  \-----Maud Of Huntingdon
         |                          |                           \-----Judith Of Lens
         |                  /-----Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret
         |                 |        |                  /-----William Lord Of Leuchars
         |                 |        |         /-----Ness Of Leuchars
         |                 |         \-----Orabella
         |         /-----Roger De QUINCY, Earl Of Winchester
         |        |        |                                    /-----Roger De Beaumont
         |        |        |                           /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Adelise Of Meulan
         |        |        |                  /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
         |        |        |                 |                  \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
         |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester
         |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Ralph De Gael De Montfort, Earl Of Norfolk
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
         |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Emma Fitz Osbern
         |        |        |        |         \-----Amicia De Gael
         |        |         \-----Margaret BEAUMONT
         |        |                 |                           /-----Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
         |        |                 |                  /-----Robert De GRANTMESNIL
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----Adeliza Of Beaumont
         |        |                 |         /-----William De GRANTMESNIL
         |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Robert De Estouteville
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Emma De Estouteville
         |        |                 |        |                  \-----Beatrix
         |        |                  \-----Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL
          \-----Elizabeth De QUINCY
                  |                                    /-----Fergus Lord Of Galloway
                  |                           /-----Uchtred Of Galloway
                  |                          |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
                  |                          |         \-----Sibyl/Elizabeth
                  |                          |                  \-----Sibyl CORBET
                  |                  /-----Roland Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
                  |                 |        |                  /-----Gospatric I Earl Of Northumberland
                  |                 |        |         /-----Waltheof Baron Of Allendale
                  |                 |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |                 |         \-----Gunnild Of Dunbar
                  |                 |                  \-----Sigrid
                  |         /-----Alan Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
                  |        |        |                           /-----(Unk) De MORVILLE
                  |        |        |                  /-----Hugh De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
                  |        |        |         /-----Richard De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
                  |        |        |        |        |         /-----Robert BEAUCHAMP
                  |        |        |        |         \-----Beatrice BEAUCHAMP
                  |        |         \-----Elena De MORVILLE
                  |        |                 |                  /-----Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
                  |        |                 |         /-----William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
                  |        |                 |        |         \-----Goditha
                  |        |                  \-----Avice De LANCASTER
                   \-----Helen Of Galloway
                           |                                    /-----Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
                           |                           /-----Richard FITZ EUSTACE, Constable Of Chester
                           |                          |         \-----Agnes De HALTON
                           |                  /-----John Fitz Richard, Constable Of Chester
                           |                 |        |         /-----Robert LIZOURS
                           |                 |         \-----Albreada LIZOURS, Baroness Of Pontfract
                           |                 |                  \-----Aubrey De LACY
                           |         /-----Roger De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract
                           |        |        |                  /-----Richard
                           |        |        |         /-----Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
                           |        |        |        |         \-----Jane BIGOD
                           |        |         \-----Alice Fitz Roger
                           |        |                 |         /-----Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
                           |        |                  \-----Alice De VERE
                           |        |                           \-----Adeliza De CLARE
                            \-----(Unk Dau) De LACY
                                    |                           /-----Ebrard III Seigneur De Puiset
                                    |                  /-----Hugh III Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
                                    |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of Corbeil
                                    |         /-----Ebrard IV Seigneur De Puiset, Vicount Chartres
                                    |        |        |         /-----Stephen Count Of Blois, Leader Of First Crusade
                                    |        |         \-----Agnes
                                    |        |                  \-----Adela
                                     \-----Maud De CLERE
                                              \-----Heloise De ROUCY



Descendants of Malise Earl Of Strathearn
1. Malise Earl Of Strathearn m1. Agnes m2. Joan De MONTEITH
m. Agnes
m. Joan De MONTEITH father: Sir John De MONTEITH

2nd generation

3. Malise Earl Of Strathern, Caithness, And Orkney m. Margery Of Ross
m. Margery Of Ross father: Sir Hugh De ROSS, Earl Of Ross mother: Matilda De BRUS

3rd generation

4. Maud Of Strathern m. Wayland De La ARDE
m. Wayland De La ARDE
5. Eupheme Of Strathern m. Guthorn SPAR
m. Guthorn SPAR
7. Isabel Of Strathern m. Sir William SINCLAIR, Lord Of Roslin
m. Sir William SINCLAIR, Lord Of Roslin father: Sir William SINCLAIR

4th generation

10. Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney m. Jean HALYBURTON
m. Jean HALYBURTON father: Sir Walter HALIBURTON

5th generation

12. Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney m. Jill DOUGLAS
m. Jill DOUGLAS father: Sir William DOUGLAS mother: Jill STEWART
15. Elizabeth SINCLAIR m. Sir John DRUMMOND
m. Sir John DRUMMOND father: Sir John DRUMMOND mother: Mary De MONTIFICHET
17. Jean SINCLAIR m. Sir John FORRESTER
m. Sir John FORRESTER father: Sir Adam FORRESTER mother: Margaret
22. Beatrice SINCLAIR m. James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
m. James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas father: Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas mother: Joan MORAY