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Family:
Children:
  1. Helena De MONTEITH
  2. Sir John De MONTEITH Birth: 1 Death: Abt 1344
  3. Sir Walter De MONTEITH Birth: 2
  4. Joan De MONTEITH Birth: Abt 1310 Death: After 20 Mar 1366/7

Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
second son [Ref: CP VIII p664(g), SP VI p132, Thompson CharlesII v24-116(89)],
parents:
[Ref: CP VIII p664(g), John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget HRHCharles p211, SP VI p132],
father:
[Ref: Fraser MENTEITH p460, Thompson CharlesII v24-116(89)]
the Earl of Lennox [Ref: SP I p325],
brother:
Alexander Earl of Menteith [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p21]
Sources for death Information
date:
(1323) [Ref: ES III.1 #158]
abt 1323 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget HRHCharles p212, SP V p579, SP VI p132, Thompson CharlesII v24-116],
place:
of Rusky [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p211]
Sources with Information about marriage to unknown
child:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p1940, Burke Peerage p72, CP I p310, CP IV p433, CP VIII p664(g), CP XII/1 p385, CP XII/1 p388, Fraser MENTEITH p460, John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget HRHCharles p211, Ravilious Murdoch p21, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607, SP I p325, SP VI p132, Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
Research Notes:
Knt, of Ruskie, Stirlingshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607]
of Rusky and Knapdale [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

identified as "Sir John MOR" [Ref: Burke Peerage p72, SP I p325]

joined the patriotic side against the English, but with other Scots submitted in 1303 [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

by 1304: entered the service of Edward I, who appointed him keeper of the castle, town and sheriffdom of Dumbarton [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

1305: Sir William Wallace was captured within the sheriffdom, and Menteith as sheriff turned him over to Edward [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

captured Sir William Wallace [Ref: SP V p579]

Jun 1306: created Earl of Lennox; addressed as such by Edward II in 1307 [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

by 1309: gave up the empty title (Earl of Lennox) when he joined Robert I "the Bruce" [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

1320: guardian of the earldom of Menteith, when he signed the letter of the Scottish nobles to the pope [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]

said to have been son of the Earl of Lennox [Ref: Burke Peerage p72]



Pedigree of Sir John De MONTEITH
                                                                /-----Flaald Seneschal Of Dol
                                                       /-----Alan Fitz Flaald
                                              /-----Fleald Fitz Alan
                                     /-----Alan FITZ FLEALD
                            /-----Walter FITZALAN, High Steward Of Scotland
                           |        |                  /-----(Unk) De HESDIN
                           |        |         /-----Ernulph De HESDIN, Baron Of Keevil
                           |         \-----Avelina De HESDIN
                           |                  \-----Emmeline
                   /-----Alan High Steward Of Scotland
                  |        |         /-----Thomas Of London
                  |         \-----Sechym De MOILE
          /-----Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland
         |        |         /-----Swan
         |         \-----Eva
 /-----Walter STEWART, Earl Of Menteith
|        |                  /-----Gilbride Earl Of Angus
|        |         /-----Gilchrist Earl Of Angus
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Duncan Lord Of Mormaer Of Athol
|        |        |        |                           /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
|        |        |        |                  /-----Maldred Lord Of Carlisle
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Mael Coluim (Malcolm II) Mac CINAED, King Of Scots
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Bethoc
|        |        |        |         /-----Gospatric I Earl Of Northumberland
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Waltheof Earl Of Northumberland
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Uchtred Earl Of Northumberland
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Ealdgyth
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Alfgifu
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Alfflaed
|        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Dunbar
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Edmund The Magnificent King Of England
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Edgar The Peaceful King Of England
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Saint Alfgifu
|        |        |                 |         /-----Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Ordgar Ealdorman Of Devonshire
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Aelfthryth
|        |        |                  \-----(Unk Dau)
|        |        |                          |                  /-----Gunnor Ealdorman In Deise
|        |        |                          |         /-----Thored Ealdorman Of Northumbria
|        |        |                           \-----Alfflaed
|         \-----Beatrix Of Angus
Sir John De MONTEITH
|                  /-----(Unk) Of Menteith
|         /-----Maurice The Younger Earl Of Menteith
 \-----Mary Of Menteith, Countess Of Menteith



Descendants of Sir John De MONTEITH
1. Sir John De MONTEITH m.

2nd generation

2. Helena De MONTEITH m. Sir Colin CAMPBELL
m. Sir Colin CAMPBELL father: Sir Neil CAMPBELL mother: (Unk Dau) CRAWFORD
3. Sir John De MONTEITH m. Elyne Of Mar
m. Elyne Of Mar father: Gratney Earl Of Mar mother: Christian BRUCE
4. Sir Walter De MONTEITH m.
5. Joan De MONTEITH m1. Malise Earl Of Strathearn m2. Sir John CAMPBELL, Earl Of Atholl m3. Sir Maurice MORAY, Earl Of Strathern m4. William SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland
m. Malise Earl Of Strathearn father: Malise Earl Of Strathern mother: Agnes COMYN
m. Sir John CAMPBELL, Earl Of Atholl father: Sir Neil CAMPBELL mother: Mary De BRUS
m. Sir Maurice MORAY, Earl Of Strathern father: Sir John MORAY
m. William SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland father: Kenneth SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland mother: Margaret Of Mar

3rd generation

9. Gillespic CAMPBELL m. Isabel LAMONT
m. Isabel LAMONT father: Sir John LAMONT
11. Christian MENTEITH m1. Sir Edward De KEITH m2. Sir Robert ERSKINE Of That Ilk
m. Sir Edward De KEITH father: Sir Edward De KEITH, Marischal Of Scotland mother: Isabel De SYNTON
m. Sir Robert ERSKINE Of That Ilk father: Sir William ERSKINE
12. Sir John MENTEITH m. Margery STIRLING
m. Margery STIRLING
13. Sir Alexander De MONTEITH m.
14. Joan MORAY m1. Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell m2.
m. Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell father: Sir Andrew MORAY mother: Christian BRUCE
15. Robert SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland m. Margaret STEWART
m. Margaret STEWART father: Alexander STEWART, Earl Of Buchan mother: Mariot ATHYN

4th generation

17. Sir Colin CAMPBELL m1. m2. Margaret DRUMMOND m3. Catherine Of Lorne m4. Mariot CAMPBELL
m. Margaret DRUMMOND father: Sir John DRUMMOND mother: Mary De MONTIFICHET
m. Catherine Of Lorne father: John Of Argyll, Lord Of Lorn mother: Cristina Of CRAIGNISH
m. Mariot CAMPBELL father: John CAMPBELL
19. Helen CAMPBELL m1. John Of The Isles m2. Sir Duncan LENNOX, Earl Of Lennox
m. John Of The Isles father: John Lord Of The Isles mother: Eupheme MacRUARE
m. Sir Duncan LENNOX, Earl Of Lennox father: Walter MacALLAN De FASLANE mother: Margaret Countess Of Lennox
20. Janet KEITH m1. Sir David BARCLAY, Lord Of Brechin m2. Sir Thomas ERSKINE
m. Sir David BARCLAY, Lord Of Brechin father: Sir David BARCLAY, Lord Of Brechin mother: Margaret Of Brechin
m. Sir Thomas ERSKINE father: Sir Robert ERSKINE Of That Ilk mother: Beatrice LINDSAY
21. (Unk) MENTEITH m. Sir John LIVINGSTON
m. Sir John LIVINGSTON father: Sir William LIVINGSTON, Lord Callendar mother: Christian De CALLENDAR
22. Sir William MENTEITH m. Elizabeth GRAHAM
m. Elizabeth GRAHAM
23. Robert MENTEITH m. Margaret LENNOX
m. Margaret LENNOX father: Sir Duncan LENNOX, Earl Of Lennox mother: Helen CAMPBELL
24. Joan MORAY m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas father: James DOUGLAS mother: Euphemia De MORHAM
25. John SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland m1. Helen SINCLAIR m2. Margaret BAILLIE
m. Helen SINCLAIR father: Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney mother: Jill DOUGLAS
m. Margaret BAILLIE father: Sir William BAILLIE mother: Marion SETON
26. Alexander SUTHERLAND m1. Mariota Of Ila m2. Margaret MacLEOD m3. Catherine CHALMER
m. Mariota Of Ila father: Sir Donald Lord Of The Isles mother: Mary LESLIE, Countess Of Ross
m. Margaret MacLEOD
m. Catherine CHALMER

5th generation

32. Colin CAMPBELL m.
36. Sir Duncan CAMPBELL, Lord Campbell m1. Marjory STEWART m2. Margaret STEWART
m. Marjory STEWART father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith
m. Margaret STEWART father: Sir John STEWART
38. Elizabeth Of the Isles m. Lachlan Lubanach
m. Lachlan Lubanach father: John Dubh
39. Isabel LENNOX, Countess Of Lennox m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany
m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith
40. Elizabeth LENNOX m1. Alexander Of The Isles m2. Sir John STEWART, Seigneur Of Aubigny
m. Alexander Of The Isles father: John Lord Of The Isles mother: Margaret STEWART
m. Sir John STEWART, Seigneur Of Aubigny father: Sir Alexander STEWART mother: Janet KEITH
41. Margaret LENNOX m. Robert MENTEITH
m. Robert MENTEITH father: Sir Alexander De MONTEITH
42. Margaret BARCLAY m. Walter STEWART, Earl Of Caithness
m. Walter STEWART, Earl Of Caithness father: Robert II STEWART, King Of Scots mother: Euphemia Of Ross
44. Jean ERSKINE m. Sir John COLQUHOUN
m. Sir John COLQUHOUN father: Sir Humphrey COLQUHOUN
45. Sir Robert ERSKINE, Lord Erskine m1. Elizabeth LINDSAY m2. (Unk Dau) STEWART
m. Elizabeth LINDSAY father: David LINDSAY, Earl Of Crawford mother: Elizabeth STEWART
m. (Unk Dau) STEWART father: Robert STEWART, Lord Lorn mother: Joan STEWART
47. Sir Alexander LIVINGSTON m. (Unk) DUNDAS
m. (Unk) DUNDAS father: James DUNDAS
51. Sir William MENTEITH m. Helen LIVINGSTON
m. Helen LIVINGSTON father: Sir Alexander LIVINGSTON
52. Sir Murdoch MENTEITH m1. m2. Christian MURRAY
m. Christian MURRAY father: Sir David MURRAY mother: Margaret COLQUHOUN
53. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m1. Christian De RAMSAY m2. Margaret STEWART
m. Christian De RAMSAY
m. Margaret STEWART father: Robert III King Of Scots mother: Annabella DRUMMOND
54. James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m1. Beatrice STEWART m2. Beatrice SINCLAIR
m. Beatrice STEWART father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith
m. Beatrice SINCLAIR father: Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney mother: Jean HALYBURTON
55. Mary DOUGLAS m1. David STEWART, Duke Of Rothesay m2. Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun
m. David STEWART, Duke Of Rothesay father: Robert III King Of Scots mother: Annabella DRUMMOND
m. Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun father: Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun
56. Joan DOUGLAS m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany
m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith
58. John SUTHERLAND, Earl Of Sutherland m1. m2. Fingole CALDER m3. Catherine
m. Fingole CALDER father: Sir William CALDER
m. Catherine
61. Janet SUTHERLAND m. Alexander DUNBAR
m. Alexander DUNBAR father: Sir Alexander DUNBAR mother: Isobella SUTHERLAND
70. Marjorie SUTHERLAND m. William SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney And Caithness
m. William SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney And Caithness father: Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney mother: Jill DOUGLAS