Family:
Children:
- Helena De MONTEITH
- Sir John De MONTEITH Birth: 1
Death: Abt 1344
- Sir Walter De MONTEITH Birth: 2
- Joan De MONTEITH Birth: Abt 1310
Death: After 20 Mar 1366/7
Bibliography
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 01 A-Basing. London: St Catherine Press, 1910. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 1 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo01coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP I [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 08, Lindley-Moate. London: St Catherine Press, 1932. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VIII [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-1, Skelmersdale-Towton. London: St Catherine Press, 1953. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/1 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.1 (#1-#200): Herzogs und Grafenhauser des Heiligen Romischen Reiches Andere Europaische Furstenhauser. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.1 #[0-9]*].
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Fraser, William, The Red Book of Menteith. Edinburg: author, 1880. Available at http://archive.org/details/redbookofmentev100fras. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Fraser MENTEITH p[0-9]*].
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Ravilious, John, Helen de Menteith, wife of Sir Colin Campbell. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/11/2004. Subject: SP Addition: Helen de Menteith, wife of Sir Colin Campbell. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/e27YQvNUb5Q/m/_mYCVkGh4KIJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958].
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Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p[0-9]*].
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Ravilious, John, Earls of Menteith, Murdoch Earl of Menteith and the Ferrers family of Groby, in The Scottish Genealogist, vol LX no 1 (Mar 2013), pp12-25. Available at https://independent.academia.edu/JohnRavilious. This article at https://www.academia.edu/33794810/TSG_The_Earls_of_Menteith_Murdoch_Earl_of_Menteith_and_the_Ferrers_family_of_Groby_Vol_LX_1_12_25_pdf. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP V p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP VI p[0-9]*].
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Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, Medieval Heritage: The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England, The Genealogist, 2:157-68, 3:25-44, 3:175-94, 4:144-58, 5:64-72, 5:226-39, 6:100-3, 6:148-65, 7-8:137-43, 9:40-4, 10:73-85, 11:63-72, 11:184-93, 12:83-90, 12:250-6, 13:92-9, 13:252-6, 14:81-4, 14:207-10, 15:99-103, 15:220-4, 16:93-8, 16:227-31, 17:61-4, 17:250-5, 18:123-7, 18:228-31, 19:62-8, 19:251-5, 20:85-8, 20:184-90, 21:71-5, 21:250-4, 22:101-6, 22:186-91, 23:73-9, 23:203-8, 24:110-27, 24:239-54, 25:56-73, 25:214-32, 26:77-101, 26:202-26, 27:189, 28:90, 33:300. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Reprinted, with further corrections, as Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton & Gunn, 2012. NYPL ARF 13-5787. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v[0-9]*-[0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- second son [Ref: CP VIII p664(g), SP VI p132, Thompson CharlesII
v24-116(89)],
- parents:
- [Ref: CP VIII p664(g), John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget
HRHCharles p211, SP VI p132],
- father:
- [Ref: Fraser MENTEITH p460, Thompson CharlesII v24-116(89)]
- the Earl of Lennox [Ref: SP I p325],
- brother:
- Alexander Earl of Menteith [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p21]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- (1323) [Ref: ES III.1 #158]
- abt 1323 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget HRHCharles
p212, SP V p579, SP VI p132, Thompson CharlesII v24-116],
- place:
- of Rusky [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p211]
Sources with Information about marriage to unknown
- child:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p1940, Burke Peerage p72, CP I p310, CP IV p433, CP
VIII p664(g), CP XII/1 p385, CP XII/1 p388, Fraser MENTEITH p460, John
Ravilious SGM 11/11/2004-073958, Paget HRHCharles p211, Ravilious Murdoch p21,
Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607, SP I p325, SP VI p132,
Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
Research Notes:
Knt, of Ruskie, Stirlingshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p607]
of Rusky and Knapdale [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
identified as "Sir John MOR" [Ref: Burke Peerage p72, SP I p325]
joined the patriotic side against the English, but with other Scots
submitted in 1303 [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
by 1304: entered the service of Edward I, who appointed him keeper of
the castle, town and sheriffdom of Dumbarton [Ref: Thompson CharlesII
v24-116]
1305: Sir William Wallace was captured within the sheriffdom, and
Menteith as sheriff turned him over to Edward [Ref: Thompson CharlesII
v24-116]
captured Sir William Wallace [Ref: SP V p579]
Jun 1306: created Earl of Lennox; addressed as such by Edward II in 1307 [Ref:
Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
by 1309: gave up the empty title (Earl of Lennox) when he joined Robert I
"the Bruce" [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
1320: guardian of the earldom of Menteith, when he signed the letter of the
Scottish nobles to the pope [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v24-116]
said to have been son of the Earl of Lennox [Ref: Burke Peerage p72]
Pedigree of Sir John De MONTEITH
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Flaald Seneschal Of Dol
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Alan Fitz Flaald
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Fleald Fitz Alan
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Alan FITZ FLEALD
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Walter FITZALAN, High Steward Of Scotland
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(Unk) De HESDIN
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Ernulph De HESDIN, Baron Of Keevil
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Avelina De HESDIN
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Emmeline
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Alan High Steward Of Scotland
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Thomas Of London
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Sechym De MOILE
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Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland
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Swan
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Eva
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Walter STEWART, Earl Of Menteith
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Gilbride Earl Of Angus
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Gilchrist Earl Of Angus
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Duncan Lord Of Mormaer Of Athol
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Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
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Maldred Lord Of Carlisle
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Mael Coluim (Malcolm II) Mac CINAED, King Of Scots
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Bethoc
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Gospatric I Earl Of Northumberland
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Waltheof Earl Of Northumberland
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Uchtred Earl Of Northumberland
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Ealdgyth
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Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
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Alfgifu
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Alfflaed
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(Unk Dau) Of Dunbar
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Edmund The Magnificent King Of England
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Edgar The Peaceful King Of England
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Saint Alfgifu
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Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England
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Ordgar Ealdorman Of Devonshire
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Aelfthryth
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Gunnor Ealdorman In Deise
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Thored Ealdorman Of Northumbria
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Alfflaed
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Beatrix Of Angus
Sir John De MONTEITH
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(Unk) Of Menteith
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Maurice The Younger Earl Of Menteith
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Mary Of Menteith, Countess Of Menteith
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