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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. John COMYN Birth: 3 Death: Before 1321
  2. Robert COMYN Birth: 5
  3. Alice COMYN

Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Hedley, W Percy, Northumberland Families. Newcastle-upon-Tyne: H.Hill, 1968. NYPL ARX+ (Northumberland) (Hedley, W.P. Northumberland families). Available (search only) at https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000319577. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Hedley Northumberland p[0-9]*].
  2. Borthwick, Richard, The Red Comyn #1?. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/9/1998. Subject: The Red Comyn #1?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ubCxfR9eCJo/m/c53XMFRAv04J. Author address: rgbor at cyllene dot uwa dot edu dot au. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 7/9/1998].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2005. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson MCA p[0-9]*].
  4. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
  6. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
  7. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP III p[0-9]*].
  8. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
  9. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: Hedley Northumberland p225, Richardson MCA p201, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p206, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p489]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Walter de LINDSEY (#174116) & Christian (#181528) [Ref: SP III p5],
note:
parentage inferred from posession of Ulseby and that her son John was guardian of Sir Alexander de Lyndsay [Ref: SP III p5(9)]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 1280 [Ref: Weis AR7 #121A]
shortly before 29 Apr 1286 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p207]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p207]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John The Red COMYN
date:
abt 1260 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p206]
first marriage of Alicia [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p490, SP I p507]
second marriage of John [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 7/9/1998],
names:
[Ref: Hedley Northumberland p225, SP III p5, Watney WALLOP #260, Weis AR7 #121A]
Sir John COMYN & Alicia ___ [Ref: SP I p507],
child:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p206, SP I p507]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
John (#14711) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #260, Weis AR7 #121A]
William (#148097) John (#14711) Alexander (#180837) [Ref: SP I p507]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir James De BYRON
date:
before 18 Nov 1279 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p207]
second marriage of Alicia [Ref: Richardson MCA p201, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p490, SP I p507],
names:
(Another) COMYN & Alicia [Ref: SP I p507]
Research Notes:
maritagium included the manor of Ulceby, Lincolnshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p206]



Pedigree of Alicia De ROOS
                                     /-----Peter De ROS
                            /-----Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
                           |        |         /-----William ESPEC, Baron Of Old Wardon
                           |         \-----Adeline ESPEC
                   /-----Everhard De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
                  |        |         /-----Thebaud De VALOGNES
                  |         \-----Sibyl De VALOGNES
          /-----Robert De ROS, Magna Charta Surety
         |        |                  /-----William TRUSSEBUT
         |        |         /-----William TRUSSEBUT, Baron Of Hunsingore
         |        |        |        |         /-----Payne
         |        |        |         \-----(Unk) FITZ PAYNE
         |         \-----Roysia TRUSSEBUT
         |                 |         /-----Rollo De HARCOURT
         |                  \-----Audrey De HARCOURT
         |                          |                  /-----(Unk) PEVEREL
         |                          |         /-----Robert PEVEREL
         |                           \-----Rohese PEVEREL
         |                                    \-----Adelicia
 /-----Sir William De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
|        |                                                      /-----Crinan The Thane Abbot Of Dunkeld
|        |                                             /-----Donnchad (Duncan I) Mac CRINAN, King Of Scots
|        |                                            |         \-----Bethoc
|        |                                    /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
|        |                                   |         \-----Sibylia Of Northumbria
|        |                                   |                  \-----Aelflaed
|        |                           /-----David I The Saint King Of Scots
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Edmund Ironside King Of England
|        |                          |        |         /-----Edward Athling The Exile
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Ealgyth
|        |                          |         \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
|        |                          |                  \-----Agatha
|        |                          |                           \-----Ingegard
|        |                  /-----Henry Of Huntingdon, Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Beorn
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Sigurd Digera Earl Of Northumbria
|        |                 |        |         /-----Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Ealdred Of Bernicia
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Aelflaed
|        |                 |         \-----Maud Of Huntingdon
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Eustace I Count Of Boulogne
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Lambert Of Boulogne, Count Of Lens
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Maud Of Louvain
|        |                 |                  \-----Judith Of Lens
|        |                 |                          |         /-----Robert I The Devil Duke Of Normandy
|        |                 |                           \-----Adelaide Of Normandy
|        |                 |                                    \-----Herleve Of Falaise
|        |         /-----William The Lion King Of Scots
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Rodulf De Warrene
|        |        |        |                           /-----Ralph II De Warrene
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Beatrice De VASCOEUIL
|        |        |        |                  /-----William De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Emma
|        |        |        |         /-----William II De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Gherbod The Fleming, Advocate Of St. Bertins
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Gundred
|        |        |         \-----Ada De WARENNE
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Robert II The Pious King Of France
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Henry I King Of France
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Constance Of Provence
|        |        |                 |         /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Anne Of Kiev
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Ingegard
|        |        |                  \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|        |        |                          |                  /-----Eudes Count Of Vermandois
|        |        |                          |         /-----Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
|        |        |                          |        |         \-----Parvie
|        |        |                           \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
|        |        |                                   |         /-----Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin
|        |        |                                    \-----Adela De Valois
|        |        |                                             \-----Adela
|         \-----Isabel Of Scotland
|                 |         /-----Robert AVENAL
|                  \-----Isabel AVERNAL
|                           \-----Sibyl
Alicia De ROOS
|                                    /-----Herbert Of Winchester, Chamberlain And Treasure
|                           /-----Herbert FITZ HERBERT
|                          |        |         /-----(Unk)
|                          |         \-----(Unk)
|                  /-----Herbert FITZ HERBERT
|                 |        |                  /-----Corbet
|                 |        |         /-----Robert CORBET, Lord of Alcester
|                 |         \-----Sibyl CORBET
|         /-----Piers FITZ HERBERT
|        |        |                                    /-----(Unk) De PITRES
|        |        |                           /-----Roger De PITRES
|        |        |                  /-----Walter FITZ ROGER
|        |        |                 |         \-----Adeliza
|        |        |         /-----Miles FITZ WALTER, Earl Of Hereford
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Dru De BALLON
|        |        |        |         \-----Berthe De BALLON
|        |         \-----Lucy Of Hereford
|        |                 |                           /-----Thurcytel Lord Of Newfmarche
|        |                 |                  /-----Geoffrey De NEUFMARCHE
|        |                 |         /-----Bernard De NEUFMARCHE, Lord Of Brecon
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Gulbert De St. Valerie
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Richard De Hugelville, Sire De Saint Valery
|        |                 |        |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau)
|        |                 |        |         \-----Ada
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Papia
|        |                  \-----Sibyl De NEUFMARCHE
|        |                          |                  /-----Richard FITZ SCROB
|        |                          |         /-----Osborn FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Richard's Castle
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Robert The Deacon
|        |                          |        |         \-----(Unk)
|        |                           \-----Nesta
|        |                                   |                  /-----Llewellyn Ap Siesyll, Price Of Gwynedd
|        |                                   |         /-----Griffith AP LLEWELLYN, Prince Of North Wales
|        |                                   |        |         \-----Angharat OB MAREDUDD
|        |                                    \-----Nesta
|        |                                            |         /-----Aelfgar Earl Of East Anglia
|        |                                             \-----Aldgyth
|        |                                                      \-----Aelfgifu
 \-----Lucia FITZ PIERS
         |                                    /-----(Unk) De CANTELOWE
         |                           /-----Richard
         |                  /-----Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
         |                 |        |                  /-----Robert Le BIGOT
         |                 |        |         /-----Roger BIGOD, Baron Of Framlingham
         |                 |         \-----Jane BIGOD
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Roger I De TOENI
         |                 |                 |         /-----Robert De TOENI, Lord Of Belvoir
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Stephanie Of Barcelona
         |                 |                  \-----Alice De TOENI
         |                 |                           \-----Adelais
         |         /-----Robert FITZ ROGER, Baron Of Whalton
         |        |        |                  /-----Alberic De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
         |        |        |         /-----Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
         |        |        |        |         \-----Beatrix
         |        |         \-----Alice De VERE
         |        |                 |                           /-----Gilbert Count Of Brionne
         |        |                 |                  /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
         |        |                 |         /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
         |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Rohese GIFFARD
         |        |                 |        |                  \-----Ermengarde FLATEL
         |        |                  \-----Adeliza De CLARE
         |        |                          |                  /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
         |        |                          |         /-----Hugh Count Of Clermont
         |        |                          |        |         \-----Ermengardis
         |        |                           \-----Adeliza De CLERMONT
         |        |                                   |         /-----Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
         |        |                                    \-----Margaret De Roucy
         |        |                                             \-----Adele De Roucy
          \-----Alice De WARKWORTH
                  |                                    /-----Alberic De Cadomo
                  |                           /-----Walter De CAEN
                  |                  /-----Robert FITZWALTER
                  |         /-----William De CHESNEY
                  |        |        |                  /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
                  |        |        |         /-----Ralph De CHESNEY
                  |        |         \-----Sibyl Of Rudham
                  |        |                  \-----Matilda
                   \-----Margery De CHESNEY, Lady Of Horsford
                           |                  /-----Guy ANGEVIN
                           |         /-----Baldwin Fitz GUY
                            \-----Gilla



Descendants of Alicia De ROOS
1. Alicia De ROOS m1. Sir John The Red COMYN m2. Sir James De BYRON
m. Sir John The Red COMYN father: Richard COMYN
m. Sir James De BYRON father: Sir Richard De BYRON

2nd generation

2. John COMYN m. Maud
m. Maud

3rd generation

5. Isabel COMYN m. Sir Thomas CLARELL, Of Aldwark
m. Sir Thomas CLARELL, Of Aldwark father: Sir William CLARELL Of Aldwark, Lord Of Sutton mother: Agnes WALEIS
6. Robert COMYN m.

4th generation

8. William CLARELL, Of Aldwark m. Elizabeth REYGATE
m. Elizabeth REYGATE father: William REYGATE, Lord Of Steeton mother: Theophania De FUNTAYNES

5th generation

12. Sir Thomas CLARELL, Of Aldwark, Lord Of Penistone m. Matilda MONTGOMERY
m. Matilda MONTGOMERY father: Sir Nicholas MONTGOMERY mother: Margaret FOLJAMBE