Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Thomas of Perche Birth: Mar 1214/5
Marriage:
Children:
- Garnier V Lord Of Marigny-Le-Chatel Death: Abt Jul 1266
- Helisende Of Marigny and Trainel
Bibliography
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. XIII: Les Familles Feodales de France I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1990. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES XIII #[0-9]*].
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Ravilious, John, Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/6/2006. Subject: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/GiQpulF-RTk/m/Lamz8d7S-RIJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007].
- parents:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #626],
- father:
- [Ref: ES III.4 #689, ES XIII #156]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- vor 1234 [Ref: ES III.4 #626, ES III.4 #689, ES XIII #156]
Sources with Information about marriage to Thomas Count Of Perche
- date:
- first marriage of Hellissende [Ref: ES III.4 #626, ES III.4 #689, ES
XIII #156]
- second marriage of Thomas and first of Helisende [Ref: John Ravilious
SGM 9/6/2006-233007],
- child:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007]
Sources with Information about marriage to Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel
- date:
- vor VI 1225 [Ref: ES III.4 #626, ES III.4 #689, ES XIII #156],
- child:
- [Ref: ES XIII #156, John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007]
Research Notes:
Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon, Dame de 1/2 Ramerupt [Ref: ES XIII #156]
Pedigree of Helissende Of Rethel
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Eudes Count Of Rethel
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Gonthier/Itier Count Of Rethel
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Manasses I Count Of Rethel
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Manasses II Count Of Rethel
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Manasses III Count Of Rethel
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Judith Of Roucy
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(Unk Dau)
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Hugh I Count Of Rethel
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Yevette
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Aubri Count Of Macon
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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Mathilda Countess Of Rethel
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Milon I Seigneur De La Ferte
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Guy Seigneur De Montchery And Bray
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Thibaud Seigneur Of Montchery And Cheverouse
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(Unk Dau)
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Malisinde
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William Lord Of Burea
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Hodierna De La Ferte
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Manasses III Count Of Rethel
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Robert I Count Of Namur
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Albert I Count Of Namur
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Ermengarde Of Lorraine
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Albert II Count Of Namur
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Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine
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Adelheid Of Lorraine
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Adelheid Of Ardennes
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Albert III Count Of Namur
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Godfrey Count Of Verdun
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Gothelo I Duke Of Upper And Lower Lorraine
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Matilda Of Saxony
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Regilinde Of Lorraine
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Conrad III Of Swabia, Count Of Ortenau
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Ita
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Beatrix
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Godfrey Count Of Namur
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Hermann Billung Duke Of Saxony
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Bernard I Duke Of Saxony
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Hildegarde Of Westerbourg
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Bernard II Duke Of Saxony
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Henry Count Of Stade
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Hildegard Of Stade
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Hildegard
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Ida Of Saxony
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Berthold I Margrave Of The Bavarian Nordgaus
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Henrich Margrave Of Schweinfurt
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Eiliswintha Countess Of Walbeck
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Eilika Of Schweinfurt
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Herbert I Count In The Kinziggau
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Gerberga Of Gleiberg
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Irmentrude
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Beatrix Of Namur
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Siegfried Count Of Luxemburg
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Frederick I Count Of Luxemburg
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Hedwig Of Nordgau
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Giselbert Count Of Luxembourg
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Herbert I Count In The Kinziggau
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Ermentrude Of Kinziggau
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Irmentrude
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Conrad I Count Of Luxembourg
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Ermesinde
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William II Fierabras Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
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William III Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
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Emma Of Blois
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William V Peter Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
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Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
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Agnes Of Burgundy
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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Clementia Of Poitou
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Emisinde Of Longwy
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Hugh II Count Of Rethel
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Goswin Count Of Veldenz
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Emicho I Wildgraf, Count Of Kyrburg
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Emicho Count In Nehegau
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Emicho Count In Nehegau
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Berthold Count In Wetterau
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Kunigunde Of Stromberg
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(Unk) Of Nehegau
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Hizecha
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Konrad I Wildgraf, Count Of Kyrburg
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Mathilde Wildgrafin Of Kyrburg
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Louis I De Mousson, UnderCount Of Bar
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Richwin Count Of Scarpons
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Louis Of Montbeliard, Count Of Bar
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Hugh IV Of Egisheim, Count Of The Lower Alsace
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Hildegarde Of Egisheim
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Heilwig Of Dagsburg
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Thierry II Count Of Bar
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Dietrich Duke Of Lorraine
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Frederick II Count Of Bar, Duke Of Lorraine
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Richilda
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Sophia Countess Of Bar
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Hermann II Duke Of Swabia
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Mathilde Of Swabia
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Gerberga Of Burgundy
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Renaud I Count Of Bar
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Otto William Count Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon
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Raynald I Count Of Burgundy
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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William I The Great Count Of Burgundy
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Richard II The Good Duke Of Normandy
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Alice Of Normandy
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Judith Of Brittany
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Ermentrude Of Burgandy
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Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
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Berengar Raimond I Count Of Barcelona
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Ermisende
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Stephanie Of Barcelona
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Sunifredo II Lord Of Lluca And Villanova
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Guisle Of Lluca
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Ermendinde Of Balsareny
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(Unk Dau) Of Bar
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Adalberto II De Metz, Count Of Metz
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Gerhard III Count Of Alsace
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Judith
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Gerhard IV Count Of Alsatia, Duke Of Lorraine Mosel
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Gisela
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Gerard I Of Lorraine, Count Of Vaudemont
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Hedwig
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Gisele De VAUDEMONT
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Hugh VI Count Of Dagsburg
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Heinrich I Count Of Egisheim And Dagsburg
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Mechtild
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Gerard II Count Of Egisheim
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Albert Count Of Moha
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(Unk) Of Moha
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Helwide/Edith Of Egisheim
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Richarde
Helissende Of Rethel
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Renard Lord Of Broyes, Beaufort, And Pithiviers
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Sir Isembard Lord Of Broyes And Beaufort
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Hugues I Bardoul Lord Of Broyes And Beaufort
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Barthelemy Lord Of Broyes And Beaufort
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Alvidis
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Hugues II Bardoul Lord Of Broyes, Beaufort, And Baye
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Walter II Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin
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Raoul II Seigneur Of Crepy And Valois
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Adele
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Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin
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Hildouin Count Of Bretemil
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Adelaide Of Bretemil
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Emeline
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Adelaide Of Valois
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Nocher II Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
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Nocher III Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
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Aelis
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Adela
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Simon I Lord Of Broyes, Beaufort, And Baye
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Milon I Seigneur De La Ferte
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Guy Seigneur De Montchery And Bray
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Thibaud Seigneur Of Montchery And Cheverouse
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Milan Le Gros Seigneur De Montchery
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William Lord Of Burea
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Hodierna De La Ferte
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Emeline Of Monthery
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Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
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Guillaume Count Of Eu
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Gunnora
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William Count Of Eu
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Turketil De Turqueville
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Lesceline De Turqueville
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Anceline De Montfort-Sur-Reile
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Lithwise Vicomtes De Troyes
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Nocher II Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
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Renaud Count Of Soissons
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Aelis
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Aelis
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Simon Lord Of Beauford
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Walter I Count Of Brienne
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Erard I Count Of Brienne
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Milo Count
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Milo Count Of Tonnerre
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Estachia
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Azcha
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Felicite Of Brienne
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Hildouin I Seigneur De Rameru
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Hildouin II De Rameru
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Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
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Anonima
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Andre De Roucy, Lord Of Rameru
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Adele De Roucy
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Regnier IV Count Of Hainault
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Beatrix Of Hainault
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Hedwig Of France
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Alix Of Rameru
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Adele
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Felicite De Broyes
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Renaud II Count Of Joigny
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Agnes Of Joigny
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William I Count Of Nevers
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Renaud II Count Of Nevers And Auxerre
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Ermengarde Of Tonnerre
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William II Count Of Nevers
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Lanzelin II Seigneur De Baugency
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Agnes De Baugency
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Alberga
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William III Count Of Nevers D'Auxerre
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Adele
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William IV Count Of Nevers
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Siegfried Von Spondheim, Count Of Levanthal
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Engelbert I Von Spondheim, Count In Lavanthal
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Richardis
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Engelbert II Duke Of Corinthia, Margrave Of Istria
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Bernhard Von Flinsbach
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Hedwig
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Alilia
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Ida Of Karnten
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Ratpoto IV Count Of Vohburg
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Ulrich The Rich Count Of Passau
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Mathilda Of Chimgau
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Uta Of Passau
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Kuno Count Of Lechsgemund
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Adelheid Countess Of Lechsgemund
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Mathilde Of Achalm
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Adele Of Nevers
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Robert II The Pious King Of France
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Henry I King Of France
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Constance Of Provence
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
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Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev
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Anne Of Kiev
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Ingegard
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Raoul I Count Of Vermandois
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Eudes Count Of Vermandois
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Herbert IV Count Of Vermandois
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Parvie
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Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
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Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin
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Adela De Valois
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Adela
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Eleanore Of Vermandois
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William VI Geoffrey Count Of Poitou
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William VII Count Of Poitou, IX Duke Of Aquitain
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Hildegarde Of Burgundy
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William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
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William IV Count Of Toulouse
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Maud Of Toulouse
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Emma De MORTAIN
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Petronelle Of Poitou
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Boso II Vicount De Chastellerault
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Aimery I Vicount De Chatellerault
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Eleanor De THOUARS
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Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
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Barthelemy Sire De Isle Bouchard
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Dangerose
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Gerberga
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