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Name: Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel
Sex: M
Death: Before Sep 1255 ^d

Parents:

Father:
Garnier III Lord Of Marigny And Trainel Death: Abt 12 Oct 1217

Mother:

Agnes Of Mello, Dame De Voisnes Death: After 1215

Family:
Marriage:

Helissende Of Rethel on Before Jun 1225 .^m1
Helissende Of Rethel Death: Before 1234

Children:

Garnier V Lord Of Marigny-Le-Chatel Death: Abt Jul 1266
Helisende Of Marigny and Trainel

Bibliography

Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. XIII: Les Familles Feodales de France I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1990. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES XIII #[0-9]*].
Ravilious, John, Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/6/2006. Subject: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/GiQpulF-RTk/m/Lamz8d7S-RIJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007].

Sources for birth and parent Information

parents:: [Ref: ES XIII #156]

Sources for death Information

date:: abt 1255 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007]; vor IX 1255 [Ref: ES III.4 #626, ES XIII #156]; vor VII 1256 [Ref: ES III.4 #689]

Sources with Information about marriage to Helissende Of Rethel

date:: vor VI 1225 [Ref: ES III.4 #626, ES III.4 #689, ES XIII #156],
child:: [Ref: ES XIII #156, John Ravilious SGM 9/6/2006-233007]

Research Notes:
Sire de Marigny [Ref: ES III.4 #626]
Sire de Marigny-le-Chatel, de Trainel-en-partie de Sommerfontaine de Rigny-la-Nonneuse de la Peze d'Ossey de Maraya et de Saint-Mards [Ref: ES XIII #156]

Pedigree of Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel
                            /-----Ponse Of Trainel
                   /-----Anseau I Lord Of Trainel
                  |        |                  /-----Milon I Seigneur De La Ferte
                  |        |         /-----Guy Seigneur De Montchery And Bray
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Ansoud Le Riche Of Paris
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Thibaud Seigneur Of Montchery And Cheverouse
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Reitrude
                  |        |        |         \-----(Unk Dau)
                  |         \-----Melisende Of Monthlery
                  |                 |         /-----William Lord Of Burea
                  |                  \-----Hodierna De La Ferte
          /-----Garnier II Lord Of Trainel And Marigny
         |         \-----Helissent
/-----Garnier III Lord Of Marigny And Trainel
Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel
|                  /-----Dreux Of Mello
|         /-----Droux I Of Mello, Lord Of Baulche And Saint Bris
|        |         \-----Agnes Of Toucy
\-----Agnes Of Mello, Dame De Voisnes
         |                                                      /-----Gilbert I De Mello
         |                                             /-----Dreux I Seigneur De Meilo
         |                                    /-----Gilbert II Seigneur De Mello
         |                           /-----Dreux II Seigneur De Mello
         |                          |         \-----Ermentrude
         |                  /-----Dreux III Seigneur De Morichy
         |                 |        |                           /-----Hugh Butler Of France
         |                 |        |                  /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
         |                 |        |         /-----Hugh Count Of Clermont
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Ermengardis
         |                 |         \-----Rachilde
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Hildouin II De Rameru
         |                 |                 |         /-----Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Anonima
         |                 |                  \-----Margaret De Roucy
         |                 |                          |         /-----Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy
         |                 |                           \-----Adele De Roucy
         |                 |                                    \-----Beatrix Of Hainault
         |         /-----Dreux IV Seigneur De Morichy
         |        |        |                           /-----Rodulf De Warrene
         |        |        |                  /-----Ralph II De Warrene
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Tesselin Vicomte Of Rouen
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Beatrice De VASCOEUIL
         |        |        |         /-----William De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
         |        |        |        |         \-----Emma
         |        |         \-----Edith De WARENNE
         |        |                 |         /-----Gherbod The Fleming, Advocate Of St. Bertins
         |        |                  \-----Gundred
          \-----Ermengarde
                  |         /-----Lancelin II Of Beauvais
                   \-----Basilie
                           |                                    /-----Hildouin I Seigneur De Rameru
                           |                           /-----Manasser Count Of Dammartin
                           |                  /-----Eudes Count Of Dammartin
                           |                 |         \-----Constance
                           |         /-----Hugh II Count Of Dammartin
                            \-----Adele De Bulles
                                    |                           /-----Godfrey Count Of Brionne
                                    |                  /-----Gilbert Count Of Brionne
                                    |         /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
                                     \-----Rohais
                                             |                  /-----Osbern De Bolbec, Seigneur Of Longueville
                                             |         /-----Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
                                             |        |         \-----Wevie
                                              \-----Rohese GIFFARD
                                                      |         /-----Gerard De FLEITELL
                                                       \-----Ermengarde FLATEL

Descendants of Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel

1. Garnier IV Lord Of Marigny And Trainel m. Helissende Of Rethel

m. Helissende Of Rethel father: Hugh II Count Of Rethel mother: Felicite De Broyes

2+ Garnier V Lord Of Marigny-Le-Chatel m. Erambour Of Epoisses

3 Helisende Of Marigny and Trainel m. Henri De ARZILLIERES

2nd generation

2. Garnier V Lord Of Marigny-Le-Chatel m. Erambour Of Epoisses

m. Erambour Of Epoisses father: Jean Of Epoisses, Lord Of Vignes mother: Marguerite

4+ Agnes Of Trainel, Dame Of Marigny-Le-Chatel m. Ponce Lord Of Thil

3rd generation

4. Agnes Of Trainel, Dame Of Marigny-Le-Chatel m. Ponce Lord Of Thil

m. Ponce Lord Of Thil father: Guillaume Lord Of Thil mother: Elizabeth Of Mont-Saint-Jean-Charny

5+ Guillaume Lord Of Thil m. (Unk) Of La Roche-Nolay