Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Sir Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray Birth: 1
Death: 12 Aug 1332 in Dupplin
- John RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray Birth: 2
Death: 17 Oct 1346 in Nevilles Cross
- Agnes RANDOLPH Birth: 1
Death: After 24 May 1367
Marriage:
Children:
- Isabel RANDOLPH Birth: Abt 1320
Death: After 20 Jul 1361
Bibliography
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Clagett, Brice, Thomas Randolph. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 1/9/2001. Subject: Thomas Randolph. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/7dRqGNRfzSg/m/QGFr_M6zYfEJ. Author address: bclagett at cov dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 1/9/2001-115216].
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Ravilious, John, Thomas Randolph. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 1/9/2001. Subject: Thomas Randolph. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/7dRqGNRfzSg/m/lyOAueu215UJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/9/2001-211943].
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Ravilious, John, Agnes, 1st wife of Sir Patrick Hepburn. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/12/2005. Subject: Agnes, 1st wife of Sir Patrick Hepburn (d. ca. 1402): a conjecture. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/WuEywaCWvr4/m/cNMFSWGQ0vsJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/12/2005-213939].
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Ravilious, John, George Dunbar, earl of March. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/7/2007. Subject: George Dunbar, earl of March. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/0T5fp9DryyA/m/f4XlydVoTkgJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 3/7/2007-080037].
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Ravilious, John, Thomas Randolph. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/9/2008. Subject: Thomas Randolph. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/qL_f4XTxROs/m/jIV86liaLjAJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/9/2008-204607].
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MacEwen, Andrew B W, Boyd Tomb at Kilmarnock, in The Genealogist, vol 24 no 1 (Spring 2010), pp52-64. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: MacEwen BoydTomb p[0-9]*].
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Ravilious, John, Earls of March 1308-1368, in The Scottish Genealogist, vol LXV no 3 (Sep 2018), pp92-99. Available at https://independent.academia.edu/JohnRavilious. This article at https://www.academia.edu/43672940/The_Earls_of_March_1308_1368_TSG_LXV_3_. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Ravilious EarlsMarch p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP II p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP VI p[0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 1/9/2001-115216, John Ravilious SGM
8/9/2008-204607]
- Thomas RANDOLPH & dau Robert BRUS Earl of Carrick [Ref: CP IX p167]
- Thomas RANDOLPH & sister of King Robert I [Ref: CP IX p167(c), SP I
p215, SP VI p291]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: CP IX p169, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p600, SP VI p294]
- 1332 [Ref: MacEwen BoydTomb p57(23)],
- place:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p600, SP VI p294]
Sources with Information about marriage to Isabel STEWART
- names:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p806, SP I p13, SP VI p295],
- child:
- [Ref: CP IV p508, CP IX p169, CP IX p170, John Ravilious SGM
10/12/2005-213939, Ravilious EarlsMarch p94, SP VI p294]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Isabel (#149124) [Ref: SP VI p295]
Sources with Information about marriage to Isabella De ROSS
- date:
- before 1319 [Ref: MacEwen BoydTomb p57(23)]
- before 1319 as second marriage of Thomas [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p600]
- second marriage of both [Ref: MacEwen BoydTomb p64],
- child:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 3/7/2007-080037, MacEwen BoydTomb p57(23),
MacEwen BoydTomb p64, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p600]
Research Notes:
1st Earl of Moray, of Earldom cr 1312 [Ref: CP IX p167]
1st Earl of Moray [Ref: CP IV p508, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p600]
Earl of Moray [Ref: CP IV p508]
heir of his father [Ref: CP IX p167, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p600]
it has been proved that Randolph's mother was King Robert's half-sister,
almost certainly named Isobel, daughter of Marjorie, suo jure Countess of
Carrick, and her first husband, Adam de Kilconquhar. See D.W.Hunter Marshall,
"The Parentage of Thomas Randolph, Earl of Moray," Scottish Notes & Queries 3S
vol 8 (1930). In a letter to me of 1998 Andrew MacEwen endorsed that view and
opined that her name was almost certainly Isabel. The Kilconquhar estate
descended to the last earls of Dunbar (CP IV p509). [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM
1/9/2001-115216]
the relationship of Robert 'the Bruce' and Thomas Randolph was set out
lucidly, if possibly not originally, by G.W.S. Barrow, Robert Bruce and the
Community of the Realm of Scotland, Edinburgh, 1965. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM
1/9/2001-211943]
There is good evidence that supports the traditional affiliation of Thomas
Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray as the son of a Kilconquhar half-sister of the
Bruce. This is the dispensation for the marriage of Robert II, K of Scots to
Euphemia of Ross, his 2nd wife. The text of the mandate, dated Avignon, 6
nones Maii 3 Innocent VI (2 May 1355) has been transcribed as follows:
'INNOCENTIUS Episcopus, Servus Servor. Dei, Venerabili Fratri.... Episcopo
Glasguen. Salutem, &c. EXHIBITE nobis pro parte dilecti filii nobilis viri
Roberti Stivardi Senescalli Scocie, ac dilecte in Xsto, filie nobilis mulieris
Eufemie, Comitisse Moravie, relicte quondam Johannis Comitis Moravie vidue
Glasguen. et Moravien. Dioc. Petitionis series continebat, quod ipsi propter
sedandas guerras, discordias, et inimicitias inter ipsum Robertum et dilectum
filium nobilem virum Gulielmum Comitem Rossiae, Rossen Dioc. dicte Eufemie
fratrem, et alios ipsius Eufemie consanguineos ex interfectione cujusdam
nobilis, et aliis de causis exortas tractatum habuerunt super matrimonio inter
se invicem contrahendo. Verum quia ipsi Robertus et Eufemia quarto
consanguinitatis, et ex eo tertio affinitatis gradibus invicem se contigerunt;
quod dicti Robertus, et Johannes dum vivebant erant tertio consanguinitatis
gradu conjuncti, matrimonium hujusmodi contrahere nequeunt dispensatione super
hoc Apostolica non obtenta, .... ' [1]
The dispensation was required in part as Robert and Euphemia's first
husband, John Randolph, 3rd Earl of Moray were related in the 3rd degree of
consanguinity ('quod dicti Robertus, et Johannes dum vivebant erant tertio
consanguinitatis gradu conjuncti' - causing affinity between his widow
Euphemia and Robert). For this to have been true, John Randolph and Robert the
Stewart would have been either 2nd cousins, or 1st cousins once removed. The
latter possibility can be readily dispensed with given that the ancestries of
both men are reasonably established to 3 generations. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM
8/9/2008-204607]
1306: knighted [Ref: SP II p433]
Pedigree of Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray
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Sigulf
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Forne SIGULFSON, Lord Of Greystoke
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Ivo FITZ FORNE, Baron Of Greystoke
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Walter FITZ IVO, Baron Of Greystoke
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Agnes
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Randolf FITZWALTER, Baron Of Greystoke
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Beatrice De FOLKTON
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Thomas FITZ RANULF
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Amabel
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Sir Thomas RANDOLPH
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Liulf Sheriff Of Northumberland
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Odard Sheriff Of Northumberland
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William Fitz ODARD, Baron Of Embleton
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Anna
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Robert Fitz WILLIAM
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Otho GERALDINO, Baron Of Windsor
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Walter FITZ OTHO, Baron Of Eton
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William FITZ WALTER, Baron Of Eton
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Beatrice
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Alexander De WYNDESORE
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Anna
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Oseanna De WYNDESORE
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Gilbert De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
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Ethred Baron Of Kendal
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Goditha
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Beatrice
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Agnes De LANCASTER
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William De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
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William II De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
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Gundred
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Gundred De WARENNE, Countess Of Warwick
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
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Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
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Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
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Juliana
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Alice De LASCELLES
Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray
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Adam De KILCONQUHAR
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Isabella De KILCONQUHAR
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Fergus Lord Of Galloway
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Gilbert Of Galloway
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Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
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Sibyl/Elizabeth
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Sibyl CORBET
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Duncan Earl Of Carrick
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Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
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Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
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Aufrica
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Nicol Of Carrick
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Alan FITZ FLEALD
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Walter FITZALAN, High Steward Of Scotland
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Avelina De HESDIN
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Alan High Steward Of Scotland
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Thomas Of London
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Sechym De MOILE
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Avelina Of Scotland
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Swan
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Eva
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Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland
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Niall Ruadh O'NEILL
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(Unk) O'NEILL
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Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
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Isabella
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