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• Name: Agnes GRAHAM
• Sex: F
• Death: After 5 Apr 1361 ^d


Parents:

• Father:
  
• John GRAHAM Birth: Before 19 May 1278 Death: 25 Apr 1337
Mother:

• Isabella

Family:
Marriage:

• John MONFODE on 1 .^m1
  
• John MONFODE Death: Before Oct 1344

Children:

1. Margaret MONFODE

Marriage:

• Sir John DOUGLAS on Abt 12 Oct 1344 .^m2
  
• Sir John DOUGLAS Birth: 2 Death: 1349 in Forgywood

Children:

1. Sir James DOUGLAS Birth: Abt 1335 Death: 1420
2. Sir William DOUGLAS Birth: 2 Death: After 1 Jun 1406
3. John DOUGLAS Birth: 3 Death: Before 26 May 1366
4. Sir Henry DOUGLAS Birth: 4 Death: 1393
5. Thomas DOUGLAS Birth: 5 Death: After 1378
6. Nicholas DOUGLAS Birth: 6 Death: Before 1 Jun 1406
7. Ellen DOUGLAS Death: Before 1 Aug 1377
8. Margaret DOUGLAS Death: Before 1 Aug 1377
9. Elizabeth DOUGLAS Death: After 1 Jun 1406

Bibliography

Sources for birth and parent Information

parents:

[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826, John Ravilious SGM 11/16/2006-232430, John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161912, John Ravilious SGM 6/9/2007-104437],

father:

[Ref: Ravilious AgnesGraham p131, Ravilious QueenEuphemia p51]

Sources for death Information

date:

after 5 Apr 1361 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826]

Sources with Information about marriage to John MONFODE

date:

first marriage of Agnes [Ref: Burke Peerage p1428, John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826, Ravilious AgnesGraham p131, Ravilious QueenEuphemia p51],

child:

[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826, Ravilious AgnesGraham p130, Ravilious AgnesGraham p131]

Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John DOUGLAS

date:

disp 12 Oct 1344 [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v23-205]

second marriage of Agnes [Ref: Burke Peerage p1428, John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826, Ravilious QueenEuphemia p51],

names:

[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/9/2007-104437],

child:

[Ref: Burke Peerage p1428, CP IX p287, John Ravilious SGM 11/16/2006-232430, Ravilious AgnesGraham p131, Ravilious QueenEuphemia p51, SP VI p343, SP VI p344, Thompson CharlesII v23-205]

Research Notes:
she has been identified as the widow of John MUNFODE, but this is not completely proved [Ref: SP VI p343]

John P Ravilious has established that the wife of Sir John Douglas was Agnes Graham, based on his recognition of the significance of the dispensation for their marriage. Ravilious posted his evidence and conclusion on GEN-MEDIEVAL on 9 Nov 2005. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/9/2005-161912, Thompson CharlesII v23-206]

Two charters in the Registrum Honoris de Morton provide proof of the placement of Agnes, wife of John de Monfode, as a daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham and Mary of Strathearn. The first, identified as 'Carta de Hawthornsike', is a grant of the lands of 'Hawthornesyk' in the barony of Abercorn to Agnes de Monfode by John de Graham, lord of Abercorn, dated at Lochleven, 5 Aug 1340 [1]. As John de Graham of Abercorn and Dalkeith, son of Sir Nicholas, had died on 25 April 1337 [2], the John de Graham of the 1340 charter is clearly his son and heir.
The past difficulty (at least in part), and the correct identification is based primarily on the language of this charter. The editor rendered the text as a grant by John de Graham to ' my dear friend, lady Agnes de Munfode ' [" dil'ce amice mee d'ne Agneti de munfode "]. The word "amice" was an apparent error in the transcription of the charter, which I confirmed today with Andrew B. W. MacEwen. The word actually is "amite": the correct translation of the text would then read as a grant to 'my dear aunt, lady Agnes de Munfode'.
That Agnes was a sister of the elder Sir John de Graham (and daughter of Sir Nicholas), and not his sister-in-law, is indicated by the word "amite", indicating that she was a paternal aunt [nominative form "amita"]. A subsequent charter confirms this: a subsequent grant of the lands of 'Hawthornsike' by William Mure of Abercorn, dated 5 April 1361 mentions 'lady Agnes de Montfode, relict of the deceased John de Montfode ' ["d'ne Agnetis de montfode relicte quond' Joh'is de montfode"] [3]. Her name was de Monfode, but (obviously) by marriage.
That Agnes, wife of Sir John de Douglas, was a niece of Agnes (de Graham) de Monfode and not identical to her, is further supported on chronological grounds. Sir John de Graham (son of Sir Nicholas and his wife Mary of Strathearn) was born before 19 May 1278: an inquisition of 19 May 1306, concerning the Muschamp inheritance, found that he was 28 years of age [possibly phrased as '28 years and more'] [4]. Agnes de Graham had a dispensation for her marriage to Sir John de Douglas in October 1344 [5], by which date she had issue and evidently continued producing offspring after that date (they had a total of 9 sons and daughters that are known). Assuming a minimal range of 15 years to produce 9 offspring, from say 1335/1340 to 1350/1355, Agnes would reasonably be assumed to have been born between say 1290 and 1320, but probably no earlier than between say 1295 to 1300. Mary of Strathearn was born sometime before 20 March 1248/9, as an IPM dated 20 March 1254/5 found that she was aged 6 [presumably, '6 and more'] [6]. The latest point at which we might assume a child to have been born to Mary of Strathearn by Nicholas de Graham would have been between say 1288 and 1294. It would be an extreme stretch to place Agnes, wife of Sir John de Douglas, as a daughter of Mary of Strathearn given these constraints. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/16/2006-232430]

In prior threads it was noted that Sir John de Douglas' wife Agnes had been identified as Agnes de Graham in a dispensation dated 12 Oct 1344. It was asserted that she was likely a daughter of Sir John de Graham of Abercorn based on known grants of land, onomastics and other evidence, but no proof of the relationship was then known. It was also assumed, given that there appeared to have been two individuals identified as John de Graham of Abercorn, that they were father and son, and that the oft-mentioned Agnes de Monfode was the aunt of the younger, and sister of the elder John de Graham [1].
Evidence has been noted courtesy of the National Records of Scotland that, together with charters in the Registrum Honoris de Morton, prove that Agnes de Graham (John de Douglas' wife) was in fact the same individual as Agnes, widow of Sir John de Monfode of Skirling, Peeblesshire (adjoining the parish of Kilbucho). By her first marriage, Agnes had a daughter Margaret de Monfode: Margaret married firstly Alexander Cockburn, by whom she had two sons, William de Cockburn of Skirling, and Edward, and a daughter Agnes. She married secondly William de Cragy, by whom she had a son John (dsp before 14 April 1377) and a daughter Margaret. Margaret de Cragy, sister and heir of John, granted a charter dated at Dalkeith, 14 April 1377, resigning her lands of Ardlory in Kinross, for which act she appointed "my dear uncle lord William de Douglas, knight, my attorney, procurator and special messenger" [2]. The fact that this grant was made at Dalkeith would indicate that Sir William de Douglas, younger brother of Sir James of Dalkeith (d. 1420) was the uncle of Margaret de Cragy. Given the Cragy descent from Sir John de Monfode and his wife Agnes, this would clearly imply that Agnes 'de Monfode' was the same individual as Agnes de Graham, the wife of Sir John de Douglas, and that Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and his brother William were younger half-brothers of Margaret de Monfode, mother of Margaret de Cragy.
The implication of the Cragy-Douglas relationship has been confirmed by a group of charters of the Carmichael family of Skirling, made available through the NRS website. In particular, one charter of John de Cragy (Margaret's brother) dated "c. 1370" was witnessed by (among others) "Sir James of Douglas, lord of Dalketh, and Sir Henry of Douglas, brothers, uncles of the granter" [3].
Given this proof of Agnes de Graham's marital history, and that she was aunt of the last John de Graham of Abercorn [4], it is evident that there were 3, not 2, John Grahams of Abercorn. Chronology indicates that Agnes, the mother of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (b. say 1330/35) and his many siblings, could not have been the daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham and his wife Mary of Strathearn (born before 20 March 1248/9). Agnes then must have been the daughter of their son the first John de Graham of Abercorn, who was born before 28 May 1278 [5]. Agnes therefore had a brother, the father of John de Graham, her nephew, who granted the lands of Hawthornsyke to her in 1340. This was most likely the John Graham who died on 25 April 1337 [6], previously thought to have been one and the same with the first John Graham of Abercorn. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/20/2014-174826]



Pedigree of Agnes GRAHAM
                                                       /-----William De GRAHAM
                                              /-----Peter De GRAHAM
                                     /-----Sir Henry De GRAHAM
                                    |         \-----Geva
                            /-----Sir Henry De GRAHAM
                   /-----Sir Henry GRAHAM
                  |        |                           /-----Richer De Boyville
                  |        |                  /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHER
                  |        |         /-----Adam FITZ GILBERT
                  |        |        |         \-----Juliana De SOULIS
                  |         \-----Christiana FITZ GILBERT
                  |                 |                           /-----(Unk) De COMYN
                  |                 |                  /-----(Unk) De COMYN
                  |                 |         /-----Richard COMYN
                  |                  \-----Idonea COMYN
                  |                          |                  /-----Waltheof Of Tynedale
                  |                          |         /-----Uchtred Of Tynedale
                  |                           \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
                  |                                   |         /-----Domnall Bane (Donald) Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
                  |                                    \-----Bethoc Of Scotland
          /-----Sir Nicholas GRAHAM
         |        |                           /-----Robert AVENAL
         |        |                  /-----Gervase AVENAL
         |        |                 |         \-----Sibyl
         |        |         /-----Roger AVENEL
         |        |        |         \-----Sibyl
         |         \-----(Unk) AVENEL
 /-----John GRAHAM
|        |                                             /-----Malise Earl Of Strathern
|        |                                    /-----Ferteth Earl Of Strathern
|        |                           /-----Gilbert Earl Of Strathern
|        |                          |         \-----Ethen
|        |                  /-----Robert Earl Of Strathern
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Roger III De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Ralph V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Ida (Gertrude) Of Hainault
|        |                 |        |         /-----Roger IV De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Margaret De BEAUMONT
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----Amicia De Gael
|        |                 |         \-----Margaret De TOSNY
|        |                 |                 |                  /-----Roscelin De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Richard I De BEAUMONT, Viscount Of Maine
|        |                 |                 |        |         \-----Constance
|        |                 |                  \-----Constance De BEAUMONT
|        |                 |                          |         /-----Richard II Seigneur of l'Aigle
|        |                 |                           \-----Lucie De L'AIGLE
|        |                 |                                    \-----Beatrice
|        |         /-----Malise Earl Of Strathern
|        |        |        |                           /-----Freskin
|        |        |        |                  /-----William FRESKIN
|        |        |        |         /-----Hugh De MORAVIA
|        |        |         \-----(Unk dau) De MORAVIA
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
|        |        |                 |         /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Justiciar Of Scot
|        |        |                  \-----Annabela Of Fife
|        |        |                           \-----Ela
|         \-----Mary Of Strathearn
|                 |                                    /-----Ansketil De BULMER
|                 |                           /-----Stephen De BULMER
|                 |                          |        |         /-----Peter De HUMEZ
|                 |                          |         \-----(Unk) De HUMEZ
|                 |                  /-----Thomas De MUSCHAMP, Baron Of Wooler
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Robert De MUSCHAMP
|                 |                 |         \-----Cecily De MUSCHAMP
|                 |         /-----Sir Robert De MUSCHAMP, Baron Of Wooler
|                 |        |        |                           /-----John FITZRICHARD
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
|                 |        |        |         /-----William De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Ivo De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Beatrice De VESCY
|                 |        |        |        |                  \-----Alda TYSON
|                 |        |         \-----Matilda De VESCY
|                 |        |                  \-----Agnes
|                  \-----Marjory De MUSCHAMP
|                           \-----Isabel
Agnes GRAHAM
 \-----Isabella



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