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    Person Info
  • Name: Maud
  • Sex: F
  • Death: After 1176 d


  • Parents:

Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Juliane FITZ PIERS
  2. Robert FITZ PIERS Birth: 1 Death: Abt 1185
  3. Geoffrey FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex Birth: Abt 1145 Death: 14 Oct 1213

Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir William De BOCLANDE Death: Abt 15 Apr 1216
  2. Hawise De BOCLANDE Death: Before 19 Jul 1233
  3. Hugh De BOCLANDE
  4. Geoffrey De BOCLANDE Death: Abt 14 Sep 1225

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Phillips, Chris, Proposed Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++(proposed) .*].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Siblings of Roger fitz Geoffrey. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/24/1999. Subject: Geoffrey Fitz Peter and his father, Peter the Forester. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Wr4qaM1_Q-A/m/1h4IchfX4bYJ. Author address: dcrdcr4 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/24/1999].
  4. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
  7. Farmerie, Todd, Mother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/23/1998. Subject: Geoffrey FitzPiers' Mother. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/doQ9-wydjn4/m/HBR678wVubQJ. Author address: taf2 at po dot cwru dot edu. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/23/1998].
  8. Farmerie, Todd, Maud mother of Geoffrey fitz Piers. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/2/1996. Subject: MANDEVILLE/Earldom of Essex deascent. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/olhJlRkqezY/m/Pai2WKJEjDMJ. Author address: taf2 at PO dot CWRU dot EDU. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 7/2/1996].
  9. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
  10. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
  11. Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis MC #[0-9][0-9]*].

Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Geoffrey de Mandeville (#10467) & Rohese de Vere (#10468) [Ref: Weis MC #159]
Sources for death Information
date:
survived second husband [Ref: CP++(proposed) Essex 6/15/2003 (CP V p116f)]
Sources with Information about marriage to Piers De LUTEGARESHALE
date:
first marriage of Matilda [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p566]
first marriage of Maud [Ref: CP V p116f, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p509],
names:
[Ref: Weis MC #159]
Piers De LUTEGARESHALE & Maud [Ref: Watney WALLOP #401],
child:
[Ref: CP V p116f, CP V p122, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p178, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p509, Watney WALLOP #401, Weis AR7 #246B]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
names:
Piers de Lutegareshale & Maud de Mandeville [Ref: Weis AR7 #246C]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hugh De BOCLANDE
date:
second marriage of Matilda [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p566]
second marriage of Maud [Ref: CP V p116f, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p509],
child:
[Ref: CP V p116f, Keats-Rohan DD p330, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p509, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p535]
Research Notes:
Lady of Costow, co Wilts [Ref: Weis AR7 #246B]

The two most recent editions of the Weis books (MCS4 and ARCC7) show Geoffrey Fitz Piers, Earl of Essex as son of Maud de Mandeville, daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex. I suspect that the derivation of this claim is a misreading of a table in CP, vol. 5 (Essex), where the parents of Fitz Piers, Piers and Maud (as well as Maud's other husband), are placed under the horizontal line connecting the children of Geoffrey de Mandeville, but without a verticle connection to that line. (In other words, they were tucked in there for the sake of spacial layout, without intending to suggest a relationship.) [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 7/2/1996]

The mother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers was Maud, wife of Piers de Lutegareshale. As far as I have been able to determine, there was never any Maud de Mandeville at this point in the Mandeville pedigree until someone misread CP. I followed back the references cited by Weis/Sheppard Magna Carta Sureties (later repeated in AR7) and they all either say nothing of the sort, or else lead right to the CP Essex article. Nowhere in the text does it mention a Maud other than simply as wife of Piers, and there it does not call her Maud de Mandeville nor provide any evidence of a connection. In the associated chart, (and here's the rub) Piers, Maud, and her second husband are placed under the horizontal line which unites the children of Geoffrey de Mandeville. This would, at first glance, appear to show Maud as Geoffrey's daughter (this applies to Maud, but not Piers or his successor, because Maud is not given a surname). However, a closer look reveals that there is no vertical line dropping down from the horizontal to connect her with Geoffrey:
Geoffrey
de Mandeville
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children Piers=Maud=2 hus more children
of Geoffrey de L | | of Geoffrey
| | Maud was not intended by this to be represented as Geoffrey's daughter, but this appears to be the genesis of this mistaken affiliation. As has been pointed out, it is clear that Geoffrey Fitz Piers came to hold Mandeville land, as well as the Earldom of Essex, through his wife, who was granddaughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville's sister. This is best seen by the fact that the land and titles descended to Bohun, to the exclusion of Geoffrey's son and male heir, John Fitz Geoffrey, son by a second wife. So, no Mandeville land can be shown to have been held by Piers, or by Geoffrey prior to his marriage; no Mandeville land descended to Geoffrey's (and hence Maud's) heir male; no document has been brought forward which claims Maud, wife of Piers, was a Mandeville; no daughter or sister of an Earl of Essex would have been allowed to marry such a lowly knight as Piers. No, Maud was not a Mandeville. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 4/23/1998]

either Peter or his wife, Maud, was a sibling of Roger Fitz Geoffrey and his brother, Robert, who were knights and chief tenants of the Earls of Salisbury [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/24/1999]

It is unlikely that Matilda was daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville. If she were Geoffrey's daughter, this would imply two marriages between second cousins in the following generation. The relationship as stated seems to arise from a misunderstanding of the chart of the Earls of Essex given in Complete Peerage V facing p116/7 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p330 (with corr on proposon web site), Keats-Rohan DD p566 (with corr on proposon web site)]



Pedigree of Maud
Maud



Descendants of Maud
1. Maud m1. Piers De LUTEGARESHALE m2. Hugh De BOCLANDE
m. Piers De LUTEGARESHALE
m. Hugh De BOCLANDE father: William De BOCLANDE

2nd generation

2. Juliane FITZ PIERS m. Stephen De BENDEGES
m. Stephen De BENDEGES
4. Geoffrey FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex m1. Beatrice De SAY m2. Aveline De CLARE
m. Beatrice De SAY father: William De SAY mother: Aufrica
m. Aveline De CLARE father: Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford mother: Maud St. HILLARY
5. Sir William De BOCLANDE m. Maud De Say
m. Maud De Say father: William De SAY mother: Aufrica
6. Hawise De BOCLANDE m. William II De LANVELEY, Baron Of Walkern
m. William II De LANVELEY, Baron Of Walkern father: William De LANVELEY mother: Gunnora De St CLAIR

3rd generation

13. Maud FITZ GEOFFREY De MANDEVILLE m1. Henry De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford, MC Surety m2. Roger De DAUNTSEY
m. Henry De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford, MC Surety father: Humphrey IV De BOHUN, Baron Of Trowbridge mother: Margaret Of Huntingdon
m. Roger De DAUNTSEY
15. Sir John FITZ GEOFFREY m. Isabel BIGOD
m. Isabel BIGOD father: Hugh BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety mother: Maud MARSHALL
16. Cicely FITZ GEOFFREY m. Savary De BOHUN
m. Savary De BOHUN father: Frank De BOHUN mother: Rohais
17. Hawise FITZ GEOFFREY m. Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster
m. Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster father: Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster mother: Alice De BRIWERE
18. (Unk Dau) FITZ GEOFFREY m. William De La ROCHELLE
m. William De La ROCHELLE father: William De La ROCHELLE
20. Maud De BOCLANDE m. William D'AVRANCHES, Baron Of Folkestone
m. William D'AVRANCHES, Baron Of Folkestone father: Simon D'AVRANCHES, Baron Of Folkestone
22. Joan De BOCLANDE m1. William MUSARD m2. Robert De FERRERS m3. Geoffrey D'AVRANCHES
m. William MUSARD father: Richard MUSARD, Baron Of Staveley
m. Robert De FERRERS father: William FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Sibyl De BRAOISE
m. Geoffrey D'AVRANCHES
23. Gunnora De LANVELEY m. William De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Beauchamp Of Bedford
m. William De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Beauchamp Of Bedford father: Simon De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Beauchamp Of Bedford mother: Isabella
24. William III De LANVELEY, Baron Of Walkern, MC Surety m. Maud De PECHE
m. Maud De PECHE father: Gilbert De PECCHE, Baron Of Great Bealings mother: Alice FITZ WALTER

4th generation

27. Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex m1. Maud D'EU m2. Maud De AVENBURY
m. Maud D'EU father: Raoul I De LUSIGNAN, Count D'Eu mother: Alice D'EU, Countess Of Eu, Lady Of Hastings
m. Maud De AVENBURY father: (Unk) De AVENBURY
30. Maud FITZJOHN m1. Sir Gerard De FURNIVAL m2. William De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick
m. Sir Gerard De FURNIVAL father: Sir Thomas De FURNIVAL mother: Bertha De FERRERS
m. William De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick father: William BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Elmsley Castle mother: Isabel MAUDUIT
31. Isabel FITZ JOHN m. Robert De VESPONT
m. Robert De VESPONT father: John De VIPONT, Baron Of Appleby mother: Sibilla De FERRERS
32. Aveline FITZJOHN m. Walter De BURG, Earl Of Ulster
m. Walter De BURG, Earl Of Ulster father: Richard De BURGH, Lord of Connaught mother: Egidia (Jill) De LACY
33. Joan FITZ JOHN m. Theobald Le BOTELER
m. Theobald Le BOTELER father: Theobald Le BOTELER mother: Margery De BURGH
34. Sir Frank De BOHUN m1. Sibyl De FERRERS m2. Nichole
m. Sibyl De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Sibyl MARSHALL
m. Nichole
35. Joan De BOHUN m1. Stephen De SOMERY m2. Godfrey De CRAWCUMBE m3. Eble De MONTZ
m. Stephen De SOMERY
m. Godfrey De CRAWCUMBE
m. Eble De MONTZ
36. Lucy De MOHUN m1. Sir John GREY m2. Sir Arnold MURDAC
m. Sir John GREY father: Sir Richard De GREY mother: Lucy De HUMEZ
m. Sir Arnold MURDAC
37. Sir John De MOHUN m. Joan De FERRERS
m. Joan De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Sibyl MARSHALL
39. Isabel De MOHUN m. Sir Edmund DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt
m. Sir Edmund DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt father: Sir John DEINCOURT, Baron Of Blankney mother: Agnes De NEVILLE
40. Alice De MOHUN m1. William De CLINTON m2. Robert BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Hatch Beauchamp m3. James De AUDLEY
m. William De CLINTON
m. Robert BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Hatch Beauchamp father: Robert BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Hatch Beauchamp mother: Juliana MARSHAL
m. James De AUDLEY father: Henry Of Aldithley mother: Bertrad MAINWARING
41. Sir Richard De La ROCHELLE m.
42. Maud D'AVRANCHES m. Hamon De CREVEQUER, Baron Of Chatham
m. Hamon De CREVEQUER, Baron Of Chatham father: Robert De CREVEQUER, Baron Of Chatham
45. John De BEAUCHAMP m.
46. Hawise De LANVALLEI m. Sir John De BURGH
m. Sir John De BURGH father: Sir Hubert De BURGH, Earl Of Kent mother: Beatrice De WARENNE

5th generation

47. Humphrey VI De BOHUN m1. Eleanor De BRAIOSE m2. Joan De QUINCY
m. Eleanor De BRAIOSE father: William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle mother: Eve MARSHALL
m. Joan De QUINCY father: Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware mother: Elen
52. Alice De BOHUN m. Roger V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
m. Roger V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead father: Ralph VI De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead mother: Petronilla De LACY
53. Eleanor De BOHUN m. John De VERDUN
m. John De VERDUN father: Theobald Le BOTELER mother: Rohese De VERDUN
55. Sir John De BOHUN m. Joan De BATHE
m. Joan De BATHE father: John De BATHE mother: Eleanor De AMBLIE
58. Sir Guy De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick m1. Isabella De CLARE m2. Alice De TOENI
m. Isabella De CLARE father: Sir Gilbert DeCLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertford mother: Alice De LUSIGNAN
m. Alice De TOENI father: Ralph VII De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead mother: Mary
59. Isabel De BEAUCHAMP m1. Sir Patric CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford m2. Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Earl Of Winchester
m. Sir Patric CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford father: Patric De CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford mother: Hawise De LONDRES
m. Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Earl Of Winchester father: Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England mother: Aline BASSET
64. Isabel De VESPONT m. Roger De CLIFFORD
m. Roger De CLIFFORD father: Roger CLIFFORD mother: Maud
65. Idoine De VIPONT m1. Roger De LEYBURN m2. John De CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell
m. Roger De LEYBURN father: Roger De LEYBURN mother: (Unk)
m. John De CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell father: Sir Ralph De CROMWELL mother: Margaret De SOMERY
66. Egidia De BURGH m. James STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland
m. James STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland father: Alexander STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland mother: Joanna
70. Richard De BURGH, Earl Of Ulster m. Margaret Of Guines
m. Margaret Of Guines father: Arnold III Count Of Guines mother: Alix Of Coucy
72. Edmund Le BOTELER m1. Joan FITZ JOHN m2. Agnes
m. Joan FITZ JOHN father: John FITZ THOMAS FITZ GERALD, Earl Of Kildare mother: Blanche ROCHE
m. Agnes
82. Cecily De BOHUN m. Sir William De HAUTERIVE
m. Sir William De HAUTERIVE father: Andrew De HAUTERIVE
83. Sir John De BOHUN m. Joan De La CHAPPELLE
m. Joan De La CHAPPELLE father: Bartholomew De La CHAPPELLE mother: Nichole
84. Alienore De MONTZ m. John V LESTRANGE, Lord Strange
m. John V LESTRANGE, Lord Strange father: John IV Le STRANGE mother: Joan De SOMERY
87. Sir Henry De GREY, Lord Grey Of Codnor m1. Eleanor De COURTENAY m2. Joan De SOMERVILLE
m. Eleanor De COURTENAY father: Sir Hugh De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton mother: Eleanor Le DESPENSER
m. Joan De SOMERVILLE father: Robert De SOMERVILLE mother: Isabel De MERLAY
89. John De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster m. Eleanor FITZ PIERS
m. Eleanor FITZ PIERS father: Sir Reynold FITZ PIERS mother: Alice STANFORD
90. Isabel DEINCOURT m. Sir William FITZWILLIAM, Lord Of Emley And Sprotbrou
m. Sir William FITZWILLIAM, Lord Of Emley And Sprotbrou father: Sir William FITZ THOMAS mother: Agnes GREY
91. John DEINCOURT m.
92. Margaret DEINCOURT m. Sir Robert WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby
m. Sir Robert WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby father: Sir William De WILLOUGHBY mother: Alice BEKE
93. Joan DEINCOURT m. Sir Philip De DRAYCOTT
m. Sir Philip De DRAYCOTT father: Sir Richard De DRAYCOTT mother: Lettice De BEK
95. Sir John BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Hatch Beauchamp m. Cicely VIVONNE
m. Cicely VIVONNE father: William De FORTIBUS, Lord Of Chewton mother: Maud De FERRERS, Vicomtesse De Rochechouart
96. Sir Humphrey De BEAUCHAMP m1. Sibyl OLIVER m2. Alice De ORESBY
m. Sibyl OLIVER father: Walter OLIVER, Lord Of Wambrook
m. Alice De ORESBY
99. Mary BEAUCHAMP m. Sir Hamon De MASCY
m. Sir Hamon De MASCY
100. James AUDLEY m. Alice HOKE
m. Alice HOKE
102. Philip De La ROKELE m. Joan
m. Joan
103. Hamon De CREVEQUER m. Alice
m. Alice
105. Agnes De CREVEQUER m. John De SANDWICH
m. John De SANDWICH
106. Iseult De CREVEQUER m. Nicholas De LENHAM
m. Nicholas De LENHAM
107. Eleanor De CREVEQUER m. Bertram De CRIOL
m. Bertram De CRIOL father: John De CRIOL mother: Maud De EASTWELL
110. John De BURGH, Baron Of Walkern m. Cecily De BALLIOL
m. Cecily De BALLIOL father: John De BALLIOL, King Of Scotland mother: Dervorguilla Of Galloway