Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- William De SAY
- Beatrice De SAY Birth: 1
Death: Before 19 Apr 1197
- Maud De Say Birth: 2
Death: Abt 28 Mar 1222
Bibliography
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
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Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
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Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- before 1140 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p561]
- first son [Ref: CP V p116f, CP V p120, CP XI p465, Keats-Rohan DD p681,
Sanders Baronies p71(6)],
- parents:
- [Ref: CP IV AppH p669, CP V p116f, CP V p120, CP XI p465, Fowler
Mandeville p85, Keats-Rohan DD p681, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p561, Sanders
Baronies p71(6), Sanders Baronies p71, Watney WALLOP #883]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 117 [Ref: CP V p120]
- 1177 [Ref: Sanders Baronies p71, Watney WALLOP #883]
- before 1 Aug 1177 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p681]
- before 8 Mar 1197/8 [Ref: CP++ Say 2/11/2003 (CP XI p470)]
- shortly before 1 Aug 1177 [Ref: CP V p116f, CP XI p465, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p561]
Sources with Information about marriage to Aufrica
- place:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p590],
- names:
- [Ref: Sheppard RoyalByeBlowsIII p266]
- William de SAY & unidentified wife [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p561],
- child:
- [Ref: CP V p116f, CP V p121, CP V p123, Keats-Rohan DD p681, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p590, Watney WALLOP #401, Watney WALLOP #883, Weis AR7 #97, Weis MC
#160]
Research Notes:
of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, and Saham, Norfolk [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v2p510, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p561]
of Kimbolton, Hunts, and Saham, Norfolk [Ref: CP V p120, Richardson RoyalAnc
v2p178]
heir of his father [Ref: CP XI p465, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p561]
abt 1155: succeeded his father, appears in Pipe Rolls [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD
p681]
d.s.p.m, left two daughters [Ref: CP XI p465, CP XI p465(j)]
heir was his brother Geoffrey [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p681]
Pedigree of William De SAY
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William De SAY
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Jordan De SAY
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Robert De Grentmesnil
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Girole De Echafour
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Hawise De Echafour
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Thursten De Bastenburgh
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Gisela De Bastenburgh
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Agnes De GRANDMESNIL
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Ivo
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Ivo Count Of Belemontensis
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Ivo I Count Of Beaumont
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Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
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Emma
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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Judith
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William De SAY
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Rainfred De RUMILLY
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Robert De RUMILLY, Baron Of Skipton
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Lucy De RUMILLY
William De SAY
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Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
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William De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
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Athelaise
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Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
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Hubert De Ryes
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Eudo De RIE, Dapifer
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Margaret RIE
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William Longspee Duke Of Normandy
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Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
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Espriota
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Godfrey Count Of Brionne
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Gunnora
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Gilbert Count Of Brionne
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Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
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Rohais
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Osbern De Bolbec, Seigneur Of Longueville
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Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Wevie
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Rohese GIFFARD
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Gerard De FLEITELL
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Ermengarde FLATEL
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