Person Info
- Name: Rohese
- Sex: F
- Death: Before 1151 d
- Burial: Holy Trinity, London u
Parents:
- Father:
- William De BOULOGNE
Birth: Abt 1088
Death: Before 1130
Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Geoffrey De LUCY Birth: 1
Death: Before 1179
- Godfrey De LUCY, Bishop Of Winchester Birth: 2
Death: 4 Sep 1204 in Winchester, Hampshire
- Maud De LUCY, Lady Of Diss Death: After Abt 1175
- Alice De LUCY Death: Before 1219
- Aveline De LUCY Death: Before 1219
- Rose De LUCY
Bibliography
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Bevan, Rosie, and Peter G M Dale, A Rose by Any Other Name: Another Daughter of Richard de Lucy, in Foundations for Medieval Genealogy, vol 6, no 1 (2014), pp.13-46. Available at https://fmg.ac/publications/journal/vol-6/280-fnd6-05. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan Lucy p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Maud de Lucy, wife of Nicholas de Segrave. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 2/17/1999. Subject: Maud de Lucy, wife of Nicholas de Segrave. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/l9ttLdOG5Uo/m/AhE-Wzvjri4J. Author address: dcrdcr4 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/17/1999].
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Richardson, Douglas, EXTENDED PEDIGREE OF COUNTS OF BOULOGNE-SUR-MER. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/22/2005. Subject: EXTENDED PEDIGREE OF COUNTS OF BOULOGNE-SUR-MER. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/j9aSg7PsiuAJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/22/2005-201325].
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Richardson, Douglas, Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/29/2005. Subject: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625].
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Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
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Ravilious, John, Montfichet family of Cargill. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/25/2009. Subject: the Montfichet family of Cargill & c.. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ugdL0O2pAxw/m/krUmhJlENI0J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 4/25/2009-131225].
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Ravilious, John, Descent from Eustace II of Boulogne to Eleanor de Furnival. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/16/2005. Subject: Eleanor de Furnival, wife of Richard de Brewes. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/nqN9a18rNUk/m/uNHIK7MRTB0J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/16/2005-163829].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
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Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- father:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/16/2005-163829, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p467,
Richardson RoyalAnc v2p645, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p648, Richardson RoyalAnc
v4p383]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- before 1151 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/22/2005-201325, Richardson
RoyalAnc v3p649]
- before 1152 [Ref: Bevan Lucy p17]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/22/2005-201325, Richardson RoyalAnc
v3p649]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Richard De LUCY, Justiciar Of England
- date:
- abt 1135 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
- say 1130/5 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p648],
- names:
- [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p558, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p467],
- child:
- [Ref: Bevan Lucy p13, Bevan Lucy p17, Foss Judges p417, John Ravilious
SGM 4/25/2009-131225, John Ravilious SGM 6/16/2005-163829, Keats-Rohan DD
p559, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p645, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p648, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p10, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p383, Weis AR7 #148, Weis AR7 #184B]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- ___ dau, wife of William de TREGOZ (#199833) [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p745]
Research Notes:
identity of ... Rohese has never been established. However, she evidently was
a Foliot. I found a charter in which a churchman named Richard Foliot was
called cousin by Sir Richard de Lucy's son I think. Since the Foliots are not
known to be related on the Lucy side of the family, the kinship is presumably
through Sir Richard de Lucy's wife, Rohese. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
2/17/1999]
identification by Doug Richardson, based on the following charter in which her
son Godfrey, bishop of Winchester identifies his uncle [brother of his mother]
as Pharamus de Boulogne [Pharamuso de Bolonia avunculo nostro]:
545. Merton priory.
Inspeximus and confirmation for the canons of Merton of a charter of bishop
Godfrey of Winchester which confirms the grant to them of the church of
Carshalton, and its confirmation by his predecessor, bishop Richard. The
canons may convert the fruits and obventions in proprios usus, making
provision for a perpetual vicar with a vicarage worth six marks. [Feb. 1198 X
Dec. 1204]
Hubertus dei gratia Cantuariensis archiepiscopus totius Anglie primas
omnibus sancte matris ecclesie filiis ad quos presens scriptum pervenerit
eternam in domino salutem. Ad universitatis vestre notitiam volumus pervenire
nos cartam venerabilis fratris nostri Godefridi Wyntoniensis episcopi
diligentius inspexisse, per quam dilectis filiis nostris canonicis ecclesie
beate Marie de Merton' ecclesiam de Aultona confirmavit in hec verba. Omnibus
Christi fidelibus ad quos presens scriptum pervenerit Godefridus dei gratia
Wyntoniensis episcopus eternam in domino salutem. Considerantes religionis
fervorum domus Mertonie et bonam conversationem dilectorum canonicorum ibidem
deo servientium suavissime redolentem, eis in iustis petitionibus suis deesse
nolumus nec debemus. Inde est quod nos, inspectis instrumentis predictorum
canonicorum super ecclesia de Aultona a nobili viro Pharamuso de Bolonia
avunculo nostro eis donate et a predecessore nostro Ricardo bone memorie
quondam Wyntoniensi episcopo confirmata, eandem donationem et confirmationem
iuxta quod in prefatis instrumentis continetur ratam habemus et presenti carta
nostra confirmamus, statuentes ut predicti canonici omnes fructus et
obventiones ex prefata ecclesia de Aulton' provenientes in proprios usus
licite possint convertere. Volumus etiam nichilominus quod ad presentationem
eorum prepetuus vicarius per nos et successores nostros Wyntonienses episcopos
in ea instituatur, cui constituimus vicariam ad valentiam sex marcarum, qui in
ea ministrabit ipsamque ecclesiam de oneribus episcopalibus exonerabit. Ut
igitur quod a predicto episcopo prefatis canonicis pia consideratione factum
est firmum et perpetuum robur optineat, supramemoratam confirmationem ipsius
rationabiliter factam ratam habemus et tam presenti scripto quam sigilli
nostri testimonio confirmamus.
Hiis testibus: magistro Ricardo cancellario nostro, Rannulfo thesaurario
Saresberiensis ecclesie, magistro Simone de Scalis, magistro Godefrido de
Insula, et aliis, etc." [Cheney, 201-202] [Ref: John Ravilious SGM
6/16/2005-163829]
Pedigree of Rohese
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Baldwin II The Bald Count Of Flanders
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Adelulf Count Of Boulogne
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Alfthryth Of England
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Arnulf Count Of Boulogne
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Baldwin Count Of Boulogne
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Eustace I Count Of Boulogne
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Thierri I Count Of West Friesland
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Thierri II Count Of West Friesland
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Geva
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Arnulf Count Of Holland And Ghent
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Arnold I The Old Count Of Flanders
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Hildegarde Of Flanders
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Alix De Vermandois
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Adela Of Holland
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Wigeric Count in Bidgau
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Siegfried Count Of Luxemburg
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Cunegunde
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Luitgard Of Luxembourg
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Ebergard Count In The Nordgau, Count Of Alsace
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Hedwig Of Nordgau
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Bertha
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Eustace II Count Of Boulogne
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Regnier I Count Of Hainaut
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Regnier II Count Of Hainaut
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Hersent Of France
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Regnier III Count Of Hainaut
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Richard The Justiciar Duke Of Bourgogne
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Lambert I The Bearded Count Of Louvain
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Dietrich Count in Westfalen
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Lambert Count Of Louvain
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Ragenhilda
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Adele Of Louvain
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Richfrid Count Of Betuew And Hersinde
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(Unk Dau) Of Betuwe
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Maud Of Louvain
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Charles III The Simple King Of Franks
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Louis IV D'OUTRE-MER, King Of Franks
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Edgiva
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Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine
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Henry I The Fowler King Of The Saxons
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Mechtilde Of Westfalen
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Gerberga Of Lorraine
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Adelheid Of Ardennes
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Goisfred Lord Of Carshalton
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William De BOULOGNE
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Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
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Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
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Athelaise
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