Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page

    Person Info
  • Name: Amice
  • Sex: F
  • Death: Abt Jul 1283 d
  • Burial: Grey Friars, London u


    • Parents:

Family:
Marriage:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Denise De MUNCHENSY Birth: Abt 22 Jul 1283 Death: Abt 13 Apr 1313

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
  4. Phillips, Chris, Munchensy-Hulle. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/3/2003. Subject: CP Addition: Munchensy/Hulle. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/p-w6eQfSJWs/m/yX3TRGqtVKAJ. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/4/2003-171206].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Munchensy-Hulle. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/3/2003. Subject: CP Addition: Munchensy/Hulle. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/p-w6eQfSJWs/m/_HB7dDsSIwIJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/3/2003-000102].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
  7. Bevan, Rosie, Roger de Arundel and the Birkins. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/14/2003. Subject: Magister Roger de Arundel and the Birkins of Laxton, co. Notts.. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/O4Fwp50WMyg/m/bOboMTFLKu0J. Author address: rbevan at fernside dot co dot nz. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 6/14/2003-075655].

Sources for death Information
date:
abt Jul 1283 [Ref: CP XII/2 p255]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP IX p424 (with corr in XIV p493), CP XII/2 p255]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John De HULL
date:
first marriage of Amice [Ref: CP++ Munchensy 6/22/2003 (CP IX p424)]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
names:
Sir John de HULL & Denise de MUNCHENSY (#151587) [Ref: CP XII/2 p255]
Sources with Information about marriage to William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
date:
abt 23 Jul 1283 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/3/2003-000102]
before sunrise on 24 Aug 1279 [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/4/2003-171206]
second marriage of Amice [Ref: CP++ Munchensy 6/22/2003 (CP IX p424)],
child:
[Ref: CP IX p424, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p256, Rosie Bevan SGM 6/14/2003-075655]
Research Notes:
an entry in an archbishop's register dated 23 July 1283 which states that "Sir William de Monte Caniso [Munchensy] and the Lady Amy de Hulle have duly contracted marriage." [Reference: D. Douie, The Register of John Pecham, Archbishop of Canterbury, 1279-1292 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 65) (1968): 246]. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/3/2003-000102]

I read the entry as saying that this was the archbishop judging that a marriage that had taken place some years before was valid:
"William m. Amy before sunrise on the Tuesday after the feast of St Bartholomew (24 Aug.) 1279 ... About the time of Amy's death the validity of this marriage was challenged, apparently on the ground that it took place at the church door. But as a result of proceedings in Worcester Cathedral ... (28 Oct.) 1283 ... Bishop Giffard gave sentence that William and Amy were lawfully married. This was in accordance with a similar declaration by the Archbishop of Canterbury, 23 Aug. 1283." [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/4/2003-171206]



Pedigree of Amice
Amice



Descendants of Amice
1. Amice m1. Sir John De HULL m2. William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
m. Sir John De HULL
m. William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe father: Sir Warin De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe mother: Denise De ANESTY