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  1. Fulbert De DOVER, Baron Of Chilham Birth: Abt 1178 Death: 1205

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Bibliography
  1. Richardson, Douglas, Rohese, wife of Sir Richard de Lucy, Chief Justiciar of England. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/27/2005. Subject: Rohese, wife of Sir Richard de Lucy, Chief Justiciar of England. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/XMRWeXRnbOo/m/v3jeV_4JKv4J. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/27/2005-030201].
  2. Richardson, Douglas, Rose de Dover, grandaughter of Richard de Lucy. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/28/2005. Subject: Rohese, wife of Sir Richard de Lucy, Chief Justiciar of England. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/XMRWeXRnbOo/m/JKDf5xbk2oUJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/28/2005-043923].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/29/2005. Subject: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625].
  4. Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
  5. Moriarty, G Andrews, First House of De Douvres or De Chilham, NEHGR v105 (Jan 1951) pp36-42. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p[0-9]*].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
  7. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
  8. Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
[Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p653],
grandfather:
Richard de LUCY Justiciar [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Sanders Baronies p111(3)]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 1225 [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183]
Sources with Information about marriage to John De DOVER, Baron Of Chilham
date:
before 1194 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
first marriage of Rohese [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p653],
names:
[Ref: Foss Judges p417, Sanders Baronies p111(3)],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183]
Sources with Information about marriage to Nicholas FITZ ALAN
date:
before 1205 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183]
second marriage of Roese [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p653]
Research Notes:
abt 1189: coheiress to her brother, Herbert [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183]

1212: restored in her portion of the lands and tenements which came to her by inheritance from her grandfather, Richard de Lucy [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p183]

eventual coheiress of her grandfather, Richard de Lucy, "the Loyal", the Norman-born Justiciar of Henry II [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38]

second marriage without King's license, for which her heritage was taken into the King's hand and given into the custody of William Briwere in 1204; she fined in 1205 to recover the same [Ref: Moriarty Chilham p38]

Ancient Deeds, A.2325.
Undated.
Portion of seal. [Kent]

Grant by Roheisia de Duvr' to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, of 10s. yearly that Richard de Luci her grandfather gave them for the soul of Roheisia his wife, her grandmother, who is buried in their church, to be received out of her rent in Niweton [Newington] at the equinox before Michaelmas, out of the rents first paid. Witnesses: - Oger son of Oger, Ralph de Adlinges, Michael de Borham, and others (named). [Reference: Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds in the Public Record Office 2 (1894): 64]. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/27/2005-030201]

Source: Online National Archives catalog (http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
Document: Duchy of Lancaster 10/63
Lincoln, 1213.
Grant to Rose de Dover of her inheritance from the lands of Richard de Lucy, her grandfather. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/28/2005-043923]



Pedigree of Rohese De LUCY
          /-----Sir Richard De LUCY, Justiciar Of England
         |         \-----Avelina
 /-----Geoffrey De LUCY
|        |                                                      /-----Arnulf Count Of Boulogne
|        |                                             /-----Baldwin Count Of Boulogne
|        |                                    /-----Eustace I Count Of Boulogne
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Arnulf Count Of Holland And Ghent
|        |                                   |         \-----Adela Of Holland
|        |                                   |                  \-----Luitgard Of Luxembourg
|        |                           /-----Eustace II Count Of Boulogne
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Regnier III Count Of Hainaut
|        |                          |        |         /-----Lambert I The Bearded Count Of Louvain
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Adele Of Louvain
|        |                          |         \-----Maud Of Louvain
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Charles Duke Of Lower Lorraine
|        |                          |                  \-----Gerberga Of Lorraine
|        |                          |                           \-----Adelheid Of Ardennes
|        |                  /-----Goisfred Lord Of Carshalton
|        |         /-----William De BOULOGNE
|        |        |        |         /-----Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
|        |        |         \-----Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
|        |        |                  \-----Athelaise
|         \-----Rohese
Rohese De LUCY



Descendants of Rohese De LUCY
1. Rohese De LUCY m1. John De DOVER, Baron Of Chilham m2. Nicholas FITZ ALAN
m. John De DOVER, Baron Of Chilham father: William De DOVER
m. Nicholas FITZ ALAN

2nd generation

2. Fulbert De DOVER, Baron Of Chilham m. Isabel BRIWERRE
m. Isabel BRIWERRE father: Sir William De BRIWERE, Baron Of Horsley mother: Beatrice De VALLE

3rd generation

3. Rohese De DOVER m1. Richard Fitz Roy, Baron Of Chilham m2. William De WILTON
m. Richard Fitz Roy, Baron Of Chilham father: John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England mother: (Unk Dau)
m. William De WILTON

4th generation

4. Isabel FITZ ROY m. Maurice De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley
m. Maurice De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley father: Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley mother: Joan SOMERY
5. Sir Richard De Douvres, Baron Of Chilham m. Maud Of Angus
m. Maud Of Angus father: Malcolm Earl Of Angus mother: Mary BERKELEY
6. Lorette De DOVER m. Sir William MARMION
m. Sir William MARMION father: Robert The Younger De MARION mother: Avice De TANFIELD

5th generation

8. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley m. Joan De FERRERS
m. Joan De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Margaret De QUINCEY
13. Isabel Of Chilham m1. David STRATHBOGIE, Earl Of Atholl m2. Alexander De BALLIOL, Lord Balliol
m. David STRATHBOGIE, Earl Of Atholl father: John STRATHBOGIE, Earl Of Atholl mother: Ada Of Atholl, Countess Of Atholl
m. Alexander De BALLIOL, Lord Balliol father: Sir Henry De BALLIOL mother: Lorette De VALOIGNES
14. Sir John De MARMION, Lord Marmion m. Isabel
m. Isabel