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Marriage: Children:
  1. Gui Count Of Senlis
  2. Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val Birth: Abt 890 Death: 926

Marriage: Children:
  1. (Unk Son) Of Laon Death: After 927
  2. Rotgarius II Count Of Laon Birth: Abt 900 Death: 942

Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
say 855x860 [Ref: HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008],
parents:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1, ES II #188A, HenryII eberh000 6/20/2008, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p18, Moriarty Plantagenet p228, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p501, Weis AR7 #250]
Sources for death Information
date:
892 [Ref: Keats-Rohan Poppa p196]
after 863/864 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1]
after 894 [Ref: HenryII eberh000 6/20/2008, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008]
after abt 895 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p111]
nach (895) [Ref: ES III.4 #657]
nach 895 [Ref: ES II #188A]
Sources with Information about marriage to Walthar Count Of Leon
date:
first marriage of Helwise [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
(of Walthar) Rudolf Count of Valais (#19752) [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hucbold Count Of Osrevant
date:
(vor 874) [Ref: ES II #188A]
first marriage of Heilwig [Ref: HenryII eberh000 6/20/2008, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008],
names:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p18, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p501, Weis AR7 #250]
Hucbold & either Heilwig or Judith [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p1],
child:
[Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, ES II #188Acorr, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008, Keats-Rohan Poppa p196, Moriarty Plantagenet p228]
Sources with Information about marriage to Rotgarius Count Of Laon
date:
nach 890 [Ref: ES II #188A]
second marriage of Heilwig [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, ES III.4 #657, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008]
second marriage of Heilwig, after 894 [Ref: HenryII eberh000 6/20/2008],
names:
Roger I Count of Laon & Helvide [Ref: ES III.4 #729B],
child:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113, ES III.4 #729B, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008, Settipani Chateaudun p249, Settipani Chateaudun p261]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Raoul Count of Amiens (#19752) [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113]
Research Notes:



Pedigree of Helwise Of Friuli
          /-----Hunroch Count of Ternois
 /-----Eberhard Margrave Of Friuli
|        |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
|        |         /-----Begue Count Of Paris
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
|        |        |        |                           /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Saint Begga Of Landen
|        |        |        |                  /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Childebrand
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Aupais
|        |        |        |         /-----Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Chrotrudis
|        |        |         \-----Rotrude
|         \-----Engeltron Of Paris
|                 |                                             /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
|                 |                                    /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|                 |                                   |         \-----Aupais
|                 |                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|                 |                          |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
|                 |                          |         \-----Chrotrudis
|                 |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De Preum
|                 |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|                 |                 |                  \-----Gisele
|                 |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Agilolf
|                 |        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|                 |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Houching Duke Of Alamannia
|                 |        |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
|                 |        |                  \-----Emma
|                 |        |                           \-----Hersuinde
|                  \-----Aupals
Helwise Of Friuli
|                                                               /-----Saint Arnulf Bishop Of Metz
|                                                      /-----Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
|                                                     |         \-----Dode
|                                             /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
|                                            |        |         /-----Pepin Of Landen, Mayor Of The Palace
|                                            |         \-----Saint Begga Of Landen
|                                            |                  \-----Itta Idoberge Abbess Of Nivelles
|                                    /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|                                   |        |         /-----Childebrand
|                                   |         \-----Aupais
|                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|                          |        |                           /-----Chrodobertus MajorDomo, Count Palatine
|                          |        |                  /-----(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Theodrada
|                          |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
|                          |         \-----Chrotrudis
|                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|                 |        |                                    /-----(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
|                 |        |                           /-----Chariveus Count Of Laon
|                 |        |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Hubert Prince Of Bavaria
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Irmina
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Theodrada
|                 |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Clovis II King Of Franks
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Theoderic III King Of Franks, King Of Burgundy
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Saint Bathildis
|                 |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De Preum
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Dode
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Saint Begga Of Landen
|                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|                 |                  \-----Gisele
|         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|        |        |                  /-----Agilolf
|        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|        |                 |                                    /-----(Unk) Duke Of Alemania
|        |                 |                           /-----Godefrey Duke Of Alamannia
|        |                 |                          |         \-----(Unk) Of Burgundy
|        |                 |                  /-----Houching Duke Of Alamannia
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Theodon I Of Bavaria, Duke Of Bavaria
|        |                 |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Bavaria
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Gleisnod
|        |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
|        |                  \-----Emma
|        |                           \-----Hersuinde
 \-----Gisele
         |                           /-----Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
         |                  /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
         |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
          \-----Judith Of Bavaria
                  |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
                   \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles



Descendants of Helwise Of Friuli
1. Helwise Of Friuli m1. Walthar Count Of Leon m2. Hucbold Count Of Osrevant m3. Rotgarius Count Of Laon
m. Walthar Count Of Leon father: Adelheim Count Of Leon
m. Hucbold Count Of Osrevant
m. Rotgarius Count Of Laon father: Hugo

2nd generation

2. Gui Count Of Senlis m. (Unk Dau)
m. (Unk Dau) father: Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin mother: (Unk Dau) Of Vermandois
3. Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val m. Hildegarde
m. Hildegarde father: Ermenfred Count Of Amiens
5. Rotgarius II Count Of Laon m.

3rd generation

7. Walter I Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin m1. Eve m2. Adele Of Anjou m3. Beatrix Of Macon
m. Eve
m. Adele Of Anjou father: Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou mother: Gerberga Of Nevers
m. Beatrix Of Macon father: Aubri Count Of Macon mother: (Unk)
9. Hugo Count Of Bassigny m. Berta
m. Berta

4th generation

10. Walter II Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin m. Adele
m. Adele
14. Geoffrey III Count Of The Gatinais m. Beatrix Of Macon
m. Beatrix Of Macon father: Aubri Count Of Macon mother: (Unk)
18. Helvidis m. Renard Lord Of Broyes, Beaufort, And Pithiviers
m. Renard Lord Of Broyes, Beaufort, And Pithiviers father: Geoffrey Vicount Of Orleans mother: (Unk Dau) Of Sens

5th generation

19. Dreux Count Of Amiens And The Vexin m. Godgifu
m. Godgifu father: Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England mother: Emma
20. Raoul II Seigneur Of Crepy And Valois m. Adelaide Of Bretemil
m. Adelaide Of Bretemil father: Hildouin Count Of Bretemil mother: Emeline
21. Oda Of Valois m. Hugo I Count Of Meulen
m. Hugo I Count Of Meulen father: Galeran II Count Of Meulen
25. Helvidis Heiress Of Montagne m. Geoffrey I Viscount Of Chateandun
m. Geoffrey I Viscount Of Chateandun father: Fulk Count Of Perche mother: Melisende