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  1. Robert POYNTZ Birth: 15 Jun 1359 in Dewchurch (in Irchinfeld), Herefordshire Death: 15 Jun 1439

Bibliography
  1. Richardson, Douglas, Clanvowe-Talbot connection. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/17/2001. Subject: Agnes Harris, emigrated 1630. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/8aU-yR4P8hE/m/YHqMVcNzYSsJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/17/2001-133622].
  2. Roskell, J S, History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386-1421. Wolfboro Falls, NH: Alan Sutton, 1992. NYPL JFE 95-5018. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v[1-4]p[0-9]*].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
  4. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: Weis AR7 #234A, Weis AR7 #84B],
father:
[Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p132, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p289]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 1359 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p290]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John POYNTZ, Lord Of Iron Acton
date:
before 1343 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p289]
by 1343 [Ref: Weis AR7 #234A, Weis AR7 #84B]
first marriage of John [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p132],
child:
[Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p132, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p289, Weis AR7 #234A]
Research Notes:
coheir of her father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p289]

coheir in her issue of Sir Thomas Clanvowe of Yazor, Herefs [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p132]

weak link in the descent is the Clanvowe-Talbot connection. The lineage depends on the interpreation of a document in the papal registers in which the brother of Elizabeth de Clanvowe claimed to be the nephew ("nepos" in Latin) of a Talbot. The word "nepos" in that period usually meant nephew or grandson, but, I've found a few instances where it also referred to a close male kinsman (i.e., first cousin). Since multiple meanings of "nepos" are possible, more documentation is needed [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/17/2001-133622]



Pedigree of Elizabeth De CLANVOWE
                                                                /-----Rhys Ap Tudor Mawr Prince Of South Wales
                                                       /-----Gruffydd Ap Rhys, Prince Of Deheubarth
                                                      |         \-----Gladys Of Powys
                                              /-----Rhys Ap Gruffydd, Prince Of Deheubarth
                                             |        |         /-----Gruffydd Ap CYNN
                                             |         \-----Gwenllian
                                     /-----Philip AP RHYS
                            /-----Meuric
                   /-----Hywel AP MEURIG
          /-----William AP HYWEL
 /-----Sir Philip De CLANVOWE
Elizabeth De CLANVOWE
|                                                               /-----Hugh TALBOT
|                                                      /-----Richard TALBOT
|                                                     |         \-----Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
|                                             /-----Gilbert TALBOT
|                                            |        |         /-----Stephen De BULMER
|                                            |         \-----(Unk dau) De BULMER
|                                            |                  \-----Cecily De MUSCHAMP
|                                    /-----Richard TALBOT
|                           /-----Gilbert TALBOT
|                          |        |                           /-----Gilbert BASSET
|                          |        |                  /-----Thomas BASSET
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Edith
|                          |        |         /-----Sir Alan BASSET
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Alan De DUNSTANVILLE
|                          |        |        |         \-----Adeliza De DUNSTANVILLE
|                          |         \-----Aline BASSET
|                          |                 |                  /-----Stephen De GAI
|                          |                 |         /-----Phillip De GAI
|                          |                 |        |         \-----Aline PIPARD
|                          |                  \-----Aline De GAI
|                          |                           \-----Sedzilia
|                  /-----Richard TALBOT
|                 |        |         /-----Rhys MECHYLL
|                 |         \-----Gwenthlian MECHYLL
|         /-----Gilbert TALBOT, Lord Talbot
|        |        |                                             /-----Walter BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Salwarpe
|        |        |                                    /-----William De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Salwarpe
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Emeline De ARBITOT
|        |        |                           /-----William De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Salwarpe
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----William De BRAOS, Baron Of Bramber
|        |        |                          |         \-----Bertha BRAOS
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Bertha Of Hereford
|        |        |                  /-----Walter De BEAUCHAMP
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Sir Thomas De St VALERIE
|        |        |                 |         \-----Joan De St VALERIE
|        |        |         /-----William BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Elmsley Castle
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Hugh De MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Hugh De MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Roger De MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----William De MESCHINES, Baron Of Egremont
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Maud De MESCHINES
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Cecily De ROMILLY
|        |        |        |         \-----Joan MORTIMER
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Henry De FERRERS
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Walkeline FERRERS, Lord Of Oakham
|        |        |        |                  \-----Isabel De FERRIERS
|        |         \-----Sarah De BEAUCHAMP
|        |                 |                                    /-----William II MAUDIT
|        |                 |                           /-----William III MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Maude De HAMESLAPE
|        |                 |                  /-----Robert MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Simon II De St. LIZ, Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Isabel De St LIZ
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Elizabeth De BEAUMONT
|        |                 |         /-----William IV MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Thurstan BASSET
|        |                 |        |         \-----Isabel BASSET
|        |                  \-----Isabel MAUDUIT
|        |                          |                           /-----Henry De Newburgh, Earl Of Warwick
|        |                          |                  /-----Roger De Newburgh, Earl Of Warwick
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Margaret De Perche
|        |                          |         /-----Waleran Beaumont De Newbourge, Earl Of Warwick
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----William II De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
|        |                          |        |         \-----Gundred De WARENNE, Countess Of Warwick
|        |                          |        |                  \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|        |                           \-----Alice De NEWBOURGE
|        |                                   |                  /-----Ivo De Harcourt
|        |                                   |         /-----Robert De Harcourt
|        |                                    \-----Alice De Harcourt
|        |                                            |         /-----Richard De Camville
|        |                                             \-----Millicent De Camville
|        |                                                      \-----Milicent Of Rethel
 \-----Philippa TALBOT
         |                                                      /-----Ralph Le BOTELER
         |                                             /-----Robert Le BOTELER
         |                                            |         \-----Avice
         |                                    /-----Ralph Le BOTELER
         |                           /-----Maurice Le BOTELER
         |                  /-----Ralph Le BOTELER
         |         /-----William Le BOTELER
         |        |        |                                    /-----Robert PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
         |        |        |                           /-----Ivo PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
         |        |        |                  /-----Hugh PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
         |        |        |                 |         \-----(Unk)
         |        |        |         /-----William PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
         |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Alan FITZ FLEALD
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry
         |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Avelina De HESDIN
         |        |        |        |         \-----Christiana FITZ ALAN
         |        |        |        |                  \-----Christiana
         |        |         \-----Matilda De PANTULF
         |        |                 |                           /-----Fulk FITZ WARIN
         |        |                 |                  /-----Fulk FITZ WARIN
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----Eva
         |        |                 |         /-----Sir Fulk FITZ WARIN, Robin Hood
         |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Josselin De DINHAM
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Hawise De DINAN
         |        |                  \-----Hawise FITZ WARIN
         |        |                          |                  /-----Sir William VAVASOUR, Lord Of Hazelwood
         |        |                          |         /-----Sir Robert VAVASOUR
         |        |                           \-----Maud VAVASOUR
         |        |                                   |         /-----Adam FITZ PETER
         |        |                                    \-----(Unk) De BIRKIN
         |        |                                             \-----Maud De CAUZ
          \-----Anne BOTILER
                  |                                             /-----Cynfyn Ap Gwerystan
                  |                                    /-----Bleddyn Ap Cynfyn, King Of Gwynedd And Powys
                  |                                   |         \-----Angharad Ferch Maredudd
                  |                           /-----Maredudd Ap Bleddyn
                  |                          |        |         /-----Cillin Y Blaidd Rhudd
                  |                          |         \-----Haer Ferch Cillin
                  |                  /-----Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
                  |                 |        |         /-----Einudd
                  |                 |         \-----Hunydd Ferch Einudd
                  |         /-----Gruffudd Ap Madog, Prince Of Powys Fadog
                  |        |         \-----Iseult
                   \-----Angharad Ferch Gruffudd
                           |                                    /-----Liulf
                           |                           /-----Liulf
                           |                  /-----Adam Of Aldithley
                           |         /-----Henry Of Aldithley
                           |        |        |                  /-----Orm
                           |        |        |         /-----Ralf FITZORM
                           |        |         \-----Emma FITZRALF
                            \-----Emma Of Aldithley
                                    |                           /-----William MAINWARING
                                    |                  /-----Roger MAINWARING
                                    |         /-----Sir Ralph MAINWARING, Seneschal Of Chester
                                     \-----Bertrad MAINWARING
                                             |                  /-----Ranulf De GERNON, Earl Of Chester, Vicomte D'Avranches
                                             |         /-----Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester
                                             |        |         \-----Maud De CAEN
                                              \-----Amicia Of Chester



Descendants of Elizabeth De CLANVOWE
1. Elizabeth De CLANVOWE m. Sir John POYNTZ, Lord Of Iron Acton
m. Sir John POYNTZ, Lord Of Iron Acton father: Sir Nicholas De POYNTZ, Lord Poyntz mother: Maud De ACTON

2nd generation

2. Robert POYNTZ m1. Anne m2. Katherine FITZ NICHOL
m. Anne
m. Katherine FITZ NICHOL father: Sir Thomas FITZ NICHOL mother: Margery

3rd generation

3. Thomas POYNTZ m. Jane
m. Jane
8. Nicholas POYNTZ m1. Elizabeth MILL m2. Elizabeth HUSSEY
m. Elizabeth MILL father: Sir Edward MILL mother: Juliana Le ROUS
m. Elizabeth HUSSEY father: Sir Henry HUSSEY

4th generation

9. Margaret POYNTZ m. Ralph GREVILLE
m. Ralph GREVILLE father: William GREVILLE mother: Anne FRANCIS
14. Humphrey POYNTZ m. Elizabeth POLLARD
m. Elizabeth POLLARD father: Richard POLLARD mother: Thomasin CRUSE
15. John POYNTZ m. Alice COOKES
m. Alice COOKES father: John COOKES
20. Alice POYNTZ m. Morris DENNIS
m. Morris DENNIS father: Sir Gilbert DENNIS mother: Margaret RUSSELL

5th generation

24. John GREVILLE m. Jane FORSTER
m. Jane FORSTER father: Sir Humphrey FORSTER
25. Catherine POYNTZ m. Fulk PRIDEAUX
m. Fulk PRIDEAUX father: William PRIDEAUX mother: Alice GIFFORD
26. William POYNTZ m.
34. Sir Robert POYNTZ m. Margaret WYDEVILLE
m. Margaret WYDEVILLE father: Sir Anthony WYDVILLE, K.G., Earl of Rivers mother: Gwenlian STRADLING