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Marriage: Children:
  1. Ponse De Montgomery
  2. Aldebert II Count Of La Marche Death: Before Feb 1168
  3. Odo Count Of La Marche Death: 1135
  4. Boso IV Count Of La Marche Death: 1128

Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
fourth son [Ref: Sanders Baronies p126],
parents:
[Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p399, Keats-Rohan DP p409, Moriarty Plantagenet p45, Thompson Montgomerys p259, Watney WALLOP #696],
father:
[Ref: SP III p421, Sanders Baronies p126]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: ES III.4 #637, ES III.4 #819, Tapsell Dynasties p210]
1115 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p45]
1116 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p42]
after 1123 [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p65]
living 1123 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #696]
Sources with Information about marriage to Almodis Countess Of La Marche
date:
abt 1091 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p279]
second marriage of Almodis [Ref: CP III p428(c)]
vor 1091 [Ref: ES III.4 #637, ES III.4 #819],
names:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p42, Thompson Montgomerys p259, Watney WALLOP #779],
child:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p45, Paget HRHCharles p65, Tapsell Dynasties p210, Watney WALLOP #696]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Avice (#10827), wife of William PEVEREL [Ref: CP IV AppI p762, Watney WALLOP #779]
Research Notes:
Baron of Lancaster [Ref: Sanders Baronies p126]
Count of La Marche [Ref: Tapsell Dynasties p210]
Lord of Lancaster [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p42, Paget HRHCharles p65, Watney WALLOP #779]

called "Roger Pictaviensis" [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p399]

called Le Poitevin and of Lancaster [Ref: Watney WALLOP #696]

before 1086: granted land that later became the county of Lancashire, but he was not in possession at Domesday [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p409]

1091-1123: Count of La Marche [Ref: Tapsell Dynasties p210]

1102: probably loyal to William II, but he nonetheless fell with the rest of his family [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p410]

lands between the Ribble and the Mersey, together with the district called Amounderness north of the Ribble, were granted to Roger le Poitevin, fourth son of Roger, Earl of Shrewsbury, by William the Conqueror. Domesday book states that these lands were in the king's hands, but Roger recovered them early in Rufus's reign. He fixed his seat at Lancaster, but lost his estates in 1102 when he aided his brother Robert of Belesme in rebellion. [Ref: Sanders Baronies p126]

1102: lost his estates when he aided his bother Robert of Belesme in rebellion [Ref: Sanders Baronies p126]

1102: exiled from England and lived at Cherroux [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p42]

retired to Aquitaine, where his wife had become Countess of La Marche [Ref: Keats-Rohan DP p410]



Pedigree of Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche
                   /-----Hugh De Montgomery
          /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
         |         \-----Josceline
         |                 |         /-----(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
         |                  \-----Senfrie
 /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
|         \-----Emma
Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche
|                                    /-----Yves De BELLEME, Seigneur De Belleme
|                           /-----Guilleume Lord of Belleme
|                          |        |         /-----(Unk)
|                          |         \-----Godehaut
|                  /-----William I Count Of Alencon And Bellasme
|                 |         \-----Mathilda Dame De Conde-Sur-Noireau
|         /-----William II TALVAS
|        |         \-----Mathilde
 \-----Mabel De Belesme
         |         /-----Arnulf
          \-----Hildeburg



Descendants of Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche
1. Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche m. Almodis Countess Of La Marche
m. Almodis Countess Of La Marche father: Aldebert I Count Of La Marche mother: Ponira

2nd generation

2. Ponse De Montgomery m. Wulgrim II Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
m. Wulgrim II Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme father: Guillaume III Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme mother: Vitapol De Benauges

3rd generation

6. William Guillaume IV Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme m1. Emma De Limoges m2. Marguerite De Turenne
m. Emma De Limoges father: Aymar III Count Of Limoges mother: Marie Of Care
m. Marguerite De Turenne father: Raymond I Vicount Of Turenne mother: Maude De Perche

4th generation

7. Wulgram III Count Of Angouleme m. Elizabeth Of Amboize
m. Elizabeth Of Amboize father: Hugues II Sire De'Amboize
9. Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme m. Alice De Courtenay
m. Alice De Courtenay father: Peter Of France, Lord Of Courteney mother: Elizabeth De Courtenay

5th generation

12. Isabel Of Angouleme m1. John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England m2. Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche
m. John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England father: Henry II Curt Mantel PLANTAGENET, King Of England mother: Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
m. Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche father: Hugh IX De Lusignan, Sire De Lusignan mother: Agatha De Preuilly