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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Margaret WELLES Death: 3 Jul 1480
  2. Eleanor De WELLES Death: Before 1504
  3. Cicely De WELLES Death: 1480
  4. Katherine De WELLES Death: 8 Nov 1505
  5. Richard WELLES, Lord Welles And Willoughby Birth: Abt 1428 Death: 12 Mar 1469/70 in Queens Cross, Stamford, Lincolnshire

Bibliography
  1. Clagett, Brice, Robert De Watertown. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/29/2004. Subject: Joan Waterton, wife of Lord Welles - a CP contradiction?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-rdudF98MoE/m/IT7QkzZX-zcJ. Author address: bclagett at cov dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 12/29/2004-120838].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 12/29/2004-120838, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332]
Robert WATERTON & second wife [Ref: CP V p193(c)],
father:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Faris PA2 p372, Holloway WENTWORTH p29, Maddison Lincolnshire v4p1204, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p216, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p308, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p464, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p366, Watney WALLOP #1033, Weis AR7 #202, Weis MC #82],
name:
Beatrix [Ref: Maddison Lincolnshire v4p1204]
Joan or Cecily [Ref: CP XII/2 p444]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
mother:
Joan EVERINGHAM (#23258) [Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Faris PA2 p372]
Sources for death Information
date:
between 14 Oct 1434 and 14 Apr 1447 [Ref: Weis MC #82]
living 18 Oct 1434 [Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Faris PA2 p372, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Faris PA2 p372, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p529, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G., Lord Welles
date:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Faris PA2 p372, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332, Weis MC #82]
1417 [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 12/29/2004-120838]
15 Aug 1419 [Ref: Weis AR7 #201]
About 1426 [Ref: Holloway WENTWORTH p27, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p216],
place:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p444, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332]
Methley [Ref: Faris PA2 p372, Weis MC #82],
names:
[Ref: CP V p193(c)]
Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G. & Cecilia De WATERTON [Ref: Watney WALLOP #1029, Watney WALLOP #1033],
child:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p445, CP XII/2 p449(j), CP XII/2 p666, Faris PA2 p306, Faris PA2 p372, Faris PA2 p374, Holloway WENTWORTH p29, Maddison Lincolnshire v4p1204, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p216, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p308, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p464, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p332, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p366, Roberts RD600 p263, Roberts RD600 p267, Roberts RD600 p282, Roberts RD600 p337, Roberts RD600 p342, Roberts RD600 p344, Roberts RD600 p356, Roberts USPres p194, Weis AR7 #202, Weis MC #82]
Research Notes:
eventually heir of her father [Ref: CP XII/2 p444]

original sources call her both Joan and Cecily. If Cecily, that would strongly indicate that her mother was Cecily also. Four IPM of John, 5th Lord Welles, uniformly call her Joan [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 12/29/2004-120838]



Pedigree of Joan De WATERTON
                                              /-----John WATERTON
                                     /-----John WATERTON
                                    |        |         /-----John AMYAS
                                    |         \-----Matilda AMYAS
                            /-----John WATERTON
                           |        |         /-----Jordan RAINEVILLE
                           |         \-----Aubrey RAINEVILLE
                   /-----Richard WATERTON
                  |        |         /-----Thomas De BURGH
                  |         \-----Catherine De BURGH
          /-----Robert WATERTON
         |        |         /-----Sir William ASSENHULL
         |         \-----Constance ASSENHULL
         |                 |         /-----John De BURGH
         |                  \-----Joan De BURGH
 /-----Robert De WATERTON
Joan De WATERTON
|                  /-----John FLEMING
|         /-----Sir Robert FLEMING
|        |         \-----Alice
 \-----Cecily FLEMING
          \-----Margery



Descendants of Joan De WATERTON
1. Joan De WATERTON m. Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G., Lord Welles
m. Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G., Lord Welles father: Eudo De WELLES mother: Maud De GREYSTOKE

2nd generation

2. Margaret WELLES m1. Sir Thomas DYMOKE m2. Robert RADCLIFFE
m. Sir Thomas DYMOKE father: Sir Phillip DYMOKE mother: Johanna CONYERS
m. Robert RADCLIFFE father: Sir John RADCLIFFE
3. Eleanor De WELLES m1. Sir Thomas HOO, K.G., Lord Hoo m2. Sir James LAWRENCE m3. Hugh HASTINGS
m. Sir Thomas HOO, K.G., Lord Hoo father: Sir Thomas HOO mother: Eleanor De FELTON
m. Sir James LAWRENCE father: Robert LAWRENCE mother: Agnes CROFT
m. Hugh HASTINGS
4. Cicely De WELLES m. Sir Robert De WILLOUGHBY
m. Sir Robert De WILLOUGHBY father: Sir Thomas De WILLOUGHBY mother: Joan De ARUNDEL
5. Katherine De WELLES m1. Sir Thomas De La LAUND m2. Robert TEMPEST
m. Sir Thomas De La LAUND
m. Robert TEMPEST father: Sir John TEMPEST mother: Alice SHERBURN
6. Richard WELLES, Lord Welles And Willoughby m1. Joan WILLOUGHBY m2. Margery STRANGWAYS
m. Joan WILLOUGHBY father: Robert De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby mother: Elizabeth De MONTAGU
m. Margery STRANGWAYS father: Sir James STRANGEWAYS mother: Elizabeth DARCY

3rd generation

7. Sir Robert DYMOKE m1. Jane CRESSENER m2. Anne SPARROW
m. Jane CRESSENER father: Alexander CRESSENER mother: Cecily RADCLIFFE
m. Anne SPARROW father: John SPARROW
8. Sir Lionel DYMOKE m1. Joan GRIFFITH m2. Anne HEYDON
m. Joan GRIFFITH father: Rhys GRIFFITH
m. Anne HEYDON father: Sir Henry HEYDON mother: Anne BOLEYN
9. Margaret DYMOKE m. Sir Thomas FITZWILLIAM
m. Sir Thomas FITZWILLIAM father: Thomas FITZ WILLIAM mother: Elizabeth ASKE
12. Jane DYMOKE m. John FULNETBY
m. John FULNETBY father: John FULNETBY mother: (Unk) SOUTHILL
13. Anne HOO m1. Roger COPLEY m2. William GREYSTOKE
m. Roger COPLEY father: Sir Richard COPLEY mother: Elizabeth HARRINGTON
m. William GREYSTOKE
14. Eleanor HOO m1. Thomas ECHINGHAM m2. James CAREW
m. Thomas ECHINGHAM father: Sir Thomas De ECHYNGHAM mother: Margaret WEST
m. James CAREW father: Nicholas CAREW mother: Margaret FIENNES
15. Elizabeth HOO m1. Thomas MASSINGBERD m2. Sir John DEVENISH
m. Thomas MASSINGBERD
m. Sir John DEVENISH
22. Sir Christopher De WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby m. Margaret JENNEY
m. Margaret JENNEY father: Sir William JENNEY mother: Elizabeth CAWSE
29. John TEMPEST m.
30. Joan WELLES, Baroness Welles And Willoughby m. Sir Richard HASTINGS
m. Sir Richard HASTINGS father: Sir Leonard HASTINGS mother: Alice CAMOYS

4th generation

33. Ursula DYMOKE m1. Sir John RUDSTON m2. Sir Edward WOTTON
m. Sir John RUDSTON
m. Sir Edward WOTTON father: Sir Robert WOTTON, K.G. mother: Anne BELKNAP
34. Margaret DYMOKE m. Richard VERNON
m. Richard VERNON father: Sir Henry VERNON mother: Anne TALBOT
36. Sir Edward DYMOKE m. Anne TAILBOYS
m. Anne TAILBOYS father: Sir George TAILBOYS, Lord Kyme mother: Elizabeth GASCOIGNE
37. Alice DYMOKE m. Sir William SKIPWITH
m. Sir William SKIPWITH father: Sir John SKIPWITH mother: Catherine FITZWILLIAM
38. Anne DYMOKE m. John GOODRICK
m. John GOODRICK father: William GOODRICK mother: Jane WILLIAMSON
39. Beatrix FITZ WILLIAM m. Sir Richard WOODRUFFE
m. Sir Richard WOODRUFFE
40. John FITZWILLIAM m. Joan BRITT
m. Joan BRITT
41. Godfrey FULNETBY m. Elizabeth GOODRICK
m. Elizabeth GOODRICK
52. Eleanor COPLEY m. Sir Thomas WEST, K.G., Lord La Warre, Lord West
m. Sir Thomas WEST, K.G., Lord La Warre, Lord West father: Sir Richard WEST, Lord La Warre mother: Katherine HUNGERFORD
53. Margaret COPLEY m. Edward LEWKNOR
m. Edward LEWKNOR father: Edward LEWKNOR mother: Margaret
54. Sir Richard CAREW m. Malyn OXENBRIDGE
m. Malyn OXENBRIDGE father: Sir Robert OXENBRIDGE mother: Anne LYVELODE
57. William De WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby m1. Mary HUSSEY m2. Mary De SALINAS
m. Mary HUSSEY father: Sir William HUSSEY mother: Elizabeth BERKELEY
m. Mary De SALINAS father: Don Martin De SALINAS
58. Sir Christopher De WILLOUGHBY m. Elizabeth TAILBOYS
m. Elizabeth TAILBOYS father: Sir George TAILBOYS, Lord Kyme mother: Elizabeth GASCOIGNE
65. Sir Thomas De WILLOUGHBY m. Bridget READ
m. Bridget READ father: Sir Robert READ mother: Margaret ALPHEW
66. Margaret De WILLOUGHBY m. Sir Thomas TYRELLE
m. Sir Thomas TYRELLE father: Sir James TYRELLE mother: Anne ARUNDELLE
67. Elizabeth WILLOUGHBY m. William EURE, Lord Eure
m. William EURE, Lord Eure father: Sir Ralph EURE mother: Muriel HASTINGS
69. Anne TEMPEST m. Sir Edward BOLEYN
m. Sir Edward BOLEYN father: Sir William BOLEYN mother: Margaret ORMOND

5th generation

71. Robert RUDSTON m. Anne WOTTON
m. Anne WOTTON father: Sir Edward WOTTON mother: Dorothy READE
73. Margaret DYMOKE m. William EURE, Lord Eure
m. William EURE, Lord Eure father: Sir Ralph EURE mother: Margery BOWES
74. Sir Robert DYMOKE m. Bridget FIENNES
m. Bridget FIENNES
84. Frances DYMOKE m. Sir Thomas WINDEBANK
m. Sir Thomas WINDEBANK father: Sir Richard WINDEBANK mother: Margaret Ap HENRY
85. Henry SKIPWITH m. Jane HALL
m. Jane HALL father: Francis HALL mother: Ursula SHERINGTON
86. Mary SKIPWITH m. George FITZWILLIAM
m. George FITZWILLIAM father: John FITZWILLIAM mother: Margaret WYGERSLEY
95. John SKIPWITH m. Eleanor KINGSTON
m. Eleanor KINGSTON father: John KINGSTON
96. Lionel GOODRICK m1. Bridget JERMYN m2. (Unk) ROBINSON m3. Winifred SAPCOTT
m. Bridget JERMYN father: Sir Thomas JERMYN mother: Anne SPRING
m. (Unk) ROBINSON father: Nicholas ROBINSON
m. Winifred SAPCOTT father: Henry SAPCOTT mother: Jane SMITH
101. Beatrix WOODRUFFE m1. John Esq DRAX m2. Sir Thomas WENTWORTH
m. John Esq DRAX
m. Sir Thomas WENTWORTH father: William WENTWORTH mother: Isabel FITZWILLIAM
102. Thomas FITZWILLIAM m. Joan GUNBY
m. Joan GUNBY
103. John FULNETBY m. Margaret GRANTHAM
m. Margaret GRANTHAM
104. Sir Owen WEST m. Mary GUILFORD
m. Mary GUILFORD father: George GUILFORD mother: Elizabeth MORTIMER
105. Sir George WEST m. Elizabeth MORTON
m. Elizabeth MORTON father: Sir Robert MORTON mother: Jane WARHAM
107. Barbara WEST m. Sir John GUILFORD
m. Sir John GUILFORD father: George GUILFORD mother: Elizabeth MORTIMER
115. Edward LEWKNOR m. Dorothy WROTH
m. Dorothy WROTH father: Robert WROTH mother: Jane HAUTE
116. Margaret CAREW m. John St JOHN
m. John St JOHN father: Sir John St JOHN mother: Jane IWARBY
117. Sir Nicholas CAREW, K.G. m. Elizabeth BRYAN
m. Elizabeth BRYAN father: Sir Thomas BRYAN mother: Margaret BOURCHIER, Dame Bryan
121. Katherine WILLOUGHBY, Baroness Willoughby m1. Charles BRANDON, K.G., Duke of Suffolk m2. Richard BERTIE
m. Charles BRANDON, K.G., Duke of Suffolk father: Sir William BRANDON mother: Elizabeth BRUYN
m. Richard BERTIE
122. Anne WILLOUGHBY m. Edmund HALL
m. Edmund HALL father: Francis HALL mother: Elizabeth WINGFIELD
123. William WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby of Parham m1. Elizabeth HENEAGE m2. Margaret GARNEYS
m. Elizabeth HENEAGE father: Sir Thomas HENEAGE mother: Katherine SKIPWITH
m. Margaret GARNEYS father: Robert GARNEYS mother: Anne BACON
124. Robert De WILLOUGHBY m. Dorothy WILLOUGHBY
m. Dorothy WILLOUGHBY father: Sir Edward WILLOUGHBY
125. Anne TYRRELL m. Sir John CLERE
m. Sir John CLERE father: Sir Robert CLERE mother: Alice BOLEYN
126. Sir Ralph EURE m. Margery BOWES
m. Margery BOWES father: Sir Ralph BOWES mother: Elizabeth De CLIFFORD
130. Muriel EURE m1. Sir George BOWES m2. William WYCLIFFE
m. Sir George BOWES father: Sir Ralph BOWES mother: Elizabeth De CLIFFORD
m. William WYCLIFFE
132. Elizabeth BOLEYN m. Thomas PAYNE
m. Thomas PAYNE