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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir Ralph De MUNCHENSY Birth: 1 Death: Before 1190
  2. Sir William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe Birth: 2 Death: Abt 7 May 1204
  3. Hubert De MUNCHENSY Birth: 3
  4. Alice De MUNCHESNEY Death: After 1192
  5. (Unk Dau) De MUNCHENSY

Marriage: Children:
  1. Sara De BIDUN

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
  3. Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
  4. Glanville-Richards, William U S, Records of the Anglo Norman house of Glanville, 1050-1880, London: Mitchell and Hughes, 1882. Available via Google Books, id=KZRpAAAAMAAJ. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Glanville-Richards GLANVILLE p[0-9]*].
  5. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  6. Moriarty, G Andrews, The Parentage of Ranulf de Glanville, NEHGR v102 (Oct 1948), p292-300. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty GLANVILLE p[0-9a-z]*].
  7. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  8. Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
younger daughter [Ref: CP IX p419],
parents:
[Ref: CP IX p419, CP IX p425, CP++ Lincoln 6/22/2003 (CP VII p677), Foss Judges p263, Keats-Rohan DD p854, Keats-Rohan DD p919, Sanders Baronies p144(4)],
father:
[Ref: Glanville-Richards GLANVILLE p60, Keats-Rohan DD p325, Keats-Rohan DD p44, Moriarty GLANVILLE p295chart]
Sources for death Information
date:
1190-1 [Ref: Sanders Baronies p144]
between Mich 1190 and Mich 1191 [Ref: CP IX p419]
Sources with Information about marriage to Warin De MUNCHENSY
date:
first marriage of Agnes [Ref: CP IX p419, CP++ Lincoln 6/22/2003 (CP VII p677), Keats-Rohan DD p325, Keats-Rohan DD p854, Sanders Baronies p144],
names:
[Ref: CP IX p425, Glanville-Richards GLANVILLE p60]
___ De MONTCHENSY & Agnes FITZJOHN [Ref: Foss Judges p263],
child:
[Ref: CP IX p245, CP IX p419, CP IX p420, Keats-Rohan DD p854, Moriarty GLANVILLE p295chart, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p177, Sanders Baronies p144]
Sources with Information about marriage to Haldenald De BIDUN
date:
second marriage of Agnes [Ref: CP IX p419, CP++ Lincoln 6/22/2003 (CP VII p677), Keats-Rohan DD p325, Keats-Rohan DD p854, Sanders Baronies p144],
child:
[Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p1058, Keats-Rohan DD p325, Keats-Rohan DD p44, Keats-Rohan DD p854]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
date:
first marraige of Agnes [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p1058]
Research Notes:
coheiress of her father [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p177]

inherited 1/2 of Barony of Swanscombe from uncle [Ref: Sanders Baronies p144]

1185: appears on the Rondi de Dominabus, p50, as aged sixty, with three sons and two daughters [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p854]

1187: demand for scutage was divided between Agnes and Walter, her brother-in-law, each was assessed at 15 knights' fees [Ref: Sanders Baronies p145(5)]

Clay conjectured that the wife of William Paynell, lord of Hooton Pagnell, Yorkshire, may have been one of the two daughters of Agnes de Montcanisy, daughter of Payn fitz John, but this was an error. Oseney charters show that it was Sarah, Agnes' daughter by her first husband halenald de Bidun who was wife of a William Paynell living in the reign of Henry III [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p1058]



Pedigree of Agnes FITZJOHN
                            /-----Ranulf The Moneyer
                   /-----Richard FITZRANULF
          /-----John FITZRICHARD
 /-----Payne FITZJOHN
Agnes FITZJOHN
|                           /-----Hugh De LACY
|                  /-----Walter I De LACY, Baron Of Weobley
|         /-----Hugh De LACY, Baron Of Weobley
|        |         \-----Emma
 \-----Sibyl De LACY
         |         /-----Geoffrey TALBOT, Baron Of Swanscombe
          \-----Adeline
                  |         /-----Helto Dapifer
                   \-----Agnes



Descendants of Agnes FITZJOHN
1. Agnes FITZJOHN m1. Warin De MUNCHENSY m2. Haldenald De BIDUN
m. Warin De MUNCHENSY father: Hubert De MUNCHENSY, Lord Of Edwardstone mother: (Unk Dau)
m. Haldenald De BIDUN father: Halneth De BIDUN, Baron Of Lavendon mother: Sara

2nd generation

3. Sir William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m. Aveline De CLARE
m. Aveline De CLARE father: Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford mother: Maud St. HILLARY
5. Alice De MUNCHESNEY m. Robert De MORTIMER
m. Robert De MORTIMER father: William De MORTIMER

3rd generation

10. Sir Warin De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m1. Joan MARSHALL m2. Denise De ANESTY
m. Joan MARSHALL father: Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke mother: Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
m. Denise De ANESTY father: Nicholas De ANESTY mother: Alice De PECCHE
11. William De MORTIMER m.

4th generation

12. Joan De MUNCHENSEY m. William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence
m. William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence father: Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche mother: Isabel Of Angouleme
14. William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m. Amice
m. Amice
15. Robert De MORTIMER m.

5th generation

16. Isabel De VALENCE m. Sir John De HASTINGS, Lord Hastings
m. Sir John De HASTINGS, Lord Hastings father: Sir Henry De HASTINGS mother: Joan CANELOU
20. Agnes De VALENCE m1. Maurice FITZ GERALD, Baron Of Offaly m2. Sir Hugh De BALLIOL m3. John D'AVESNES, Seigneur De Beaumont
m. Maurice FITZ GERALD, Baron Of Offaly father: Gerald FITZ MAURICE
m. Sir Hugh De BALLIOL father: John De BALLIOL, King Of Scotland mother: Dervorguilla Of Galloway
m. John D'AVESNES, Seigneur De Beaumont father: Baldwin De AVESNES mother: Felicite De Coucy
21. Joan De VALENCE m. John The Red COMYN, Lord Of Badenock
m. John The Red COMYN, Lord Of Badenock father: Sir John The Black COMYN, Lord Of Badenock mother: Mary De BALLIOL
22. Aymer De VALENCE, Earl Of Pembroke m1. Beatrice De CLERMONT m2. Mary De CHATILLON m3.
m. Beatrice De CLERMONT father: Raoul De CLERMONT, Lord Of Nesle, Vicount Of C mother: Alix Of Dreux
m. Mary De CHATILLON father: Guy III Of Chatilion, Count Of St. Pol mother: Marie Of Brittany
24. William De MORTIMER m. Alice
m. Alice