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  • Name: Payne FITZJOHN
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Before 1100 b
  • Death: 10 Jul 1137 d
  • Burial: Chapter House of Gloucester Abbey u


  • Parents:
  • Father:
  • John FITZRICHARD Birth: Before 1056 Death: After 1100

Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Cicely FITZJOHN Death: 1207
  2. Agnes FITZJOHN Birth: 4 Death: Abt 1191

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 01 A-Basing. London: St Catherine Press, 1910. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 1 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo01coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP I [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 07 Hussee-Lincolnshire. London: St Catherine Press, 1929. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VII [Ap][p0-9].*].
  5. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
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  7. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
  8. Foss, Edward, Biographia Juridica, Biographical Dictionary of the Judges of England, London: John Murray, 1870. Available at https://books.google.com/books?id=O0oBAAAAQAAJ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Foss Judges p[0-9]*].
  9. Glanville-Richards, William U S, Records of the Anglo Norman house of Glanville, 1050-1880, London: Mitchell and Hughes, 1882. Available via Google Books, id=KZRpAAAAMAAJ. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Glanville-Richards GLANVILLE p[0-9]*].
  10. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
first son [Ref: CP++ Lincoln 6/22/2003 (CP VII p677), Keats-Rohan DD p919]
first son, before 1100 [Ref: CP XII/2 p270],
father:
[Ref: CP VII p677, CP XII/2 p270(d), CP XII/2 p270, Keats-Rohan DD p919, Keats-Rohan DP p284],
uncle:
Serlo de BURGH Baron of Tonsburgh [Ref: Foss Judges p262]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
date:
second? son [Ref: CP VII p677]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p271]
1137 [Ref: ES III.4 #709, Keats-Rohan DP p265]
Jul 1137 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP XII/2 p271]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sibyl De LACY
names:
[Ref: CP IX p418, CP XII/2 p271, Keats-Rohan DP p265],
child:
[Ref: CP I p20, CP IX p419, CP IX p425, CP++ Lincoln 6/22/2003 (CP VII p677), Foss Judges p263, Keats-Rohan DD p1122, Keats-Rohan DD p538, Keats-Rohan DD p854, Keats-Rohan DD p919, Sanders Baronies p144(4)]
Research Notes:
heir of his father [Ref: CP XII/2 p270]

abt 1120: began to attest royal charters [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

1126: vice-gerent in Shropshire [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

1130: justice in Staffordshire, Gloucestershire and Northamptonshire with Miles of Gloucester [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

1134: said to have built Pain's Castle in Radnor [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

1134: Welsh burned his castle in Caus, Shropshire, and slew allits inmates [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

1136: in the company of King Stephen [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

Jul 1137: killed prusuing Welsh maurauders [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]

co-heiresses were his two daughters; heir male was his brother Eustache [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p919]



Pedigree of Payne FITZJOHN
                   /-----Ranulf The Moneyer
          /-----Richard FITZRANULF
 /-----John FITZRICHARD
Payne FITZJOHN



Descendants of Payne FITZJOHN
1. Payne FITZJOHN m. Sibyl De LACY
m. Sibyl De LACY father: Hugh De LACY, Baron Of Weobley mother: Adeline

2nd generation

3. Agnes FITZJOHN m1. Warin De MUNCHENSY m2. Haldenald De BIDUN
m. Warin De MUNCHENSY father: Hubert De MUNCHENSY, Lord Of Edwardstone mother: (Unk Dau)
m. Haldenald De BIDUN father: Halneth De BIDUN, Baron Of Lavendon mother: Sara

3rd generation

5. Sir William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m. Aveline De CLARE
m. Aveline De CLARE father: Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford mother: Maud St. HILLARY
7. Alice De MUNCHESNEY m. Robert De MORTIMER
m. Robert De MORTIMER father: William De MORTIMER

4th generation

12. Sir Warin De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m1. Joan MARSHALL m2. Denise De ANESTY
m. Joan MARSHALL father: Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke mother: Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
m. Denise De ANESTY father: Nicholas De ANESTY mother: Alice De PECCHE
13. William De MORTIMER m.

5th generation

14. Joan De MUNCHENSEY m. William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence
m. William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence father: Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche mother: Isabel Of Angouleme
16. William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe m. Amice
m. Amice
17. Robert De MORTIMER m.