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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir Edmund KNYVET Death: 1504 in at sea
  2. Bennett KNYVET
  3. Anne KNYVET
  4. Elizabeth KNYVET

Bibliography
  1. Banks, Thomas Christopher, Baronia anglica concentrata: or, A concentrated account of all the baronies commonly called baronies in fee; deriving their origin from writ of summons, and not from any specific limited creation. London: Simpkin, 1844. Available at https://archive.org/details/baroniaanglicaco01bankuoft. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Banks Baronies v[1-2]p[0-9]*].
  2. Barrett, Jonathan Tyers, Memorials of the parochial church, the collegiate chantry, and the chapel of St. Mary: commonly called Mortimer's Chapel, in the Parish of Attleborough, in the county of Norfolk, together with some account of the services used at the consecration of churches from the Anglo-Saxon to the present time, London: John W Parker, 1848. Available at https://archive.org/details/memorialsofparoc00barr. Also available at https://books.google.com/books?id=s0IIAAAAQAAJ. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Barrett Attleborough p[0-9]*].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Joan Grey wife of William Knyvet. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/27/2002. Subject: CP Correction: Sir William Astley, father of Joan (Astley) Grey. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/IOEmBFmVwKg/m/0_uVC0SXGjAJ. Author address: celticprince at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/28/2002-171253].
  4. Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth century colonists: the descent from the later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of emigrants from England and Wales to the North American colonies before 1701, second edition. Boston: New England Historical Genealogical Society, 1999. NYPL APR (New England) 01-1513. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Faris PA2 p[0-9ivxc]*].
  5. Ravilious, John, Ancestry of Jane Lowe. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/23/2007. Subject: Complete Peerage Addition/Correction: Robert de Scales, 3rd Lord Scales, and his wife, Katherine de Ufford, google search also returned "Ancestry of Jane Lowe ". Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/eCwM76QNJ1c/m/RJBF2ZjEmRgJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/23/2007-193315].
  6. Ravilious, John, Joan Grey wife of William Knyvet. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/27/2002. Subject: CP Correction: Sir William Astley, father of Joan (Astley) Grey. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/IOEmBFmVwKg/m/0Mim7MzgeQ0J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/28/2002-171253].
  7. Ravilious, John, Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/22/2005. Subject: Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington: his paternal ancestry. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/DQ-fs9k8v-0/m/Jgz0LWagJc0J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/22/2005-052836].
  8. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
  9. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  10. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR6 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
  11. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/23/2007-193315, John Ravilious SGM 8/28/2002-171253, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p176, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p414],
grandmother:
Joan ASTLEY [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/28/2002-171253]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
John GREY (#19421) & Constance HOLAND (#19422) [Ref: Faris PA2 p163, Faris PA2 p314, Roberts RD600 p182, Weis AR6 #188, Weis AR7 #93B],
father:
John GREY (#19421) [Ref: Banks Baronies v1p158, Barrett Attleborough p185],
brother:
Reginald Lord Grey of Ruthyn [Ref: Banks Baronies v1p158]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Faris PA2 p164, John Ravilious SGM 10/23/2007-193315, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p176]
1474 [Ref: Weis AR7 #188, Weis AR7 #93B]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p176]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir William KNYVET
date:
first marriage of William [Ref: Barrett Attleborough p185, Faris PA2 p163, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p176, Weis AR7 #188, Weis AR7 #93B],
names:
[Ref: Faris PA2 p314, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p415],
child:
[Ref: Banks Baronies v1p158, Barrett Attleborough p185, Faris PA2 p164, John Ravilious SGM 10/23/2007-193315, John Ravilious SGM 9/22/2005-052836, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p176, Roberts RD600 p182, Weis AR7 #188]
Research Notes:
Weis AR6 #93B and AR7 #188 cite Banks, where she is identified as daughter of John, brother to Reynold, Lord Grey of Ruthin (WTM: there is no such John brother to Reynold; however there are two Johns, both sons of Reynold, and most sources pick the John K.G) [Ref: Banks Baronies v1p158, Weis AR6 #93B, Weis AR7 #188]

the manor of Astley passed to her eldest son, Edward, Lord Ferrers of Groby. She was the heir of William, 4th Lord Astley, and those lands passed with her to the Grey issue. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/28/2002-171253]

Alice 1st wife of William Knyvet was the daughter of John Grey, younger son of Sir Reynold de Grey (died 1440), by his 2nd wife, Joan Astley. Alice's correct parentage was first identified in print in the Genealogists' Magazine, 5 (1929): 362-363. Previously, Alice was thought to have been the daughter of Sir John Grey, the eldest son of Sir Reynold Grey (died 1440), by his 1st wife Margaret Roos... We have here a case of a man who had two sons of the same name, both of whom lived to adulthood. And we wanted things simple... [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/28/2002-171253]



Pedigree of Alice De GREY
                                                                /-----Henry De GREY
                                                       /-----Sir John De GREY
                                                      |         \-----Iseude De BARDOLF
                                              /-----Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Wilton
                                             |        |         /-----Roger De CAUZ
                                             |         \-----Emma De CAUZ
                                             |                  \-----Nichole De LEIGH
                                     /-----John De GREY, Lord Grey Of Wilton
                                    |        |                  /-----Henry De LONGCHAMP
                                    |        |         /-----Sir Henry De LONGCHAMP
                                    |        |        |         \-----Maud De CANTELOU
                                    |         \-----Maud De LONGCHAMP
                            /-----Roger De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin
                           |        |                           /-----Theobald WALTER
                           |        |                  /-----Theobald Le BOTELER
                           |        |                 |         \-----Maud VAVASOUR
                           |        |         /-----John De VERDUN
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Nicholas De VERDUN
                           |        |        |         \-----Rohese De VERDUN
                           |        |        |                  \-----Clemence
                           |         \-----Maud De VERDUN
                           |                 |                  /-----Henry De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford, MC Surety
                           |                 |         /-----Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
                           |                 |        |         \-----Maud FITZ GEOFFREY De MANDEVILLE
                           |                  \-----Eleanor De BOHUN
                           |                          |         /-----Raoul I De LUSIGNAN, Count D'Eu
                           |                           \-----Maud D'EU
                           |                                    \-----Alice D'EU, Countess Of Eu, Lady Of Hastings
                   /-----Sir Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin
                  |        |                                    /-----William De HASTINGS
                  |        |                           /-----Sir Henry De HASTINGS
                  |        |                          |         \-----Margaret BIGOD
                  |        |                  /-----Sir Henry De HASTINGS
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----David Earl Of Huntingdon
                  |        |                 |         \-----Ada Of Huntingdon
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Maud Of Chester
                  |        |         /-----Sir John De HASTINGS, Lord Hastings
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Sir William De CANTELOU, Baron Of Eaton Bray
                  |        |        |        |         /-----William De CANTELOU, Lord Abergavenny
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Millicent De GOURNAY
                  |        |        |         \-----Joan CANELOU
                  |        |        |                 |         /-----William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
                  |        |        |                  \-----Eva De BRAIOSE, Baroness Abergavenny
                  |        |        |                           \-----Eve MARSHALL
                  |         \-----Elizabeth De HASTINGS
                  |                 |                           /-----Hugh IX De Lusignan, Sire De Lusignan
                  |                 |                  /-----Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Agatha De Preuilly
                  |                 |         /-----William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
                  |                 |        |         \-----Isabel Of Angouleme
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Alice De Courtenay
                  |                  \-----Isabel De VALENCE
                  |                          |                  /-----Sir William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
                  |                          |         /-----Sir Warin De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
                  |                          |        |         \-----Aveline De CLARE
                  |                           \-----Joan De MUNCHENSEY
                  |                                   |         /-----Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke
                  |                                    \-----Joan MARSHALL
                  |                                             \-----Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
          /-----Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin
         |        |                                             /-----John II LESTRANGE
         |        |                                    /-----John III Le STRANGE
         |        |                                   |         \-----Amice
         |        |                           /-----Robert Le STRANGE
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Sir Robert TREGOZE, Baron Of Ewyas Harold
         |        |                          |         \-----Lucy TREGOZE
         |        |                          |                  \-----Juliana De CANTELOU
         |        |                  /-----Fulk Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
         |        |                 |        |         /-----William De BLANCMINSTER
         |        |                 |         \-----Eleanor De BLANCMINSTER
         |        |                 |                 |         /-----Sir Fulk FITZ WARIN, Robin Hood
         |        |                 |                  \-----Eve FITZ WARIN
         |        |                 |                           \-----Maud VAVASOUR
         |        |         /-----John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Sir Ellis III GIFFARD, Baron Of Elston
         |        |        |        |                  /-----Sir Elis IV GIFFORD, Baron Of Elston
         |        |        |        |         /-----Sir John GIFFORD, Lord Gifford Of Brimsfield
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----John MAUTRAVERS
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Alice MAUTRAVERS
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Alice FITZ GEOFFREY
         |        |        |         \-----Eleanor GIFFORD
         |        |        |                 |                  /-----Walter CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford
         |        |        |                 |         /-----Walter De CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford
         |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Agnes De CONDET
         |        |        |                  \-----Maud De CLIFFORD
         |        |        |                          |         /-----Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
         |        |        |                           \-----Margaret Of Wales
         |        |        |                                    \-----Joan
         |         \-----Alinore LESTRANGE
         |                 |                                    /-----Maurice Le BOTELER
         |                 |                           /-----Ralph Le BOTELER
         |                 |                  /-----William Le BOTELER
         |                 |                 |        |         /-----William PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
         |                 |                 |         \-----Matilda De PANTULF
         |                 |                 |                  \-----Hawise FITZ WARIN
         |                 |         /-----William Le BOTILLER, Lord Botiller
         |                 |        |        |                  /-----Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
         |                 |        |        |         /-----Gruffudd Ap Madog, Prince Of Powys Fadog
         |                 |        |        |        |         \-----Iseult
         |                 |        |         \-----Angharad Ferch Gruffudd
         |                 |        |                 |         /-----Henry Of Aldithley
         |                 |        |                  \-----Emma Of Aldithley
         |                 |        |                           \-----Bertrad MAINWARING
         |                  \-----Ankaret BUTLER
         |                          |                  /-----Sir Hugh De HERDEBURGH
         |                          |         /-----Roger De HERDEBURGH
         |                          |        |        |         /-----William TURVILLE
         |                          |        |         \-----Isabel TURVILLE
         |                           \-----Ela HERDEBURGH
         |                                   |                  /-----William De ODINGSELLS
         |                                   |         /-----William ODDINGSELLS, Lord Of Maxtock
         |                                   |        |         \-----Joan
         |                                    \-----Ida ODDINGSELLS
         |                                            |         /-----Sir Walter FITZ ROBERT, Baron Of Little Dunmow
         |                                             \-----Ela FITZ WALTER
         |                                                      \-----Ida LONGSPEE
 /-----John De GREY
|        |                                                      /-----Walter Of Astley
|        |                                             /-----Sir Thomas Of Astley
|        |                                            |         \-----Isabel
|        |                                    /-----Andrew Of Astley, Lord Astley
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Ermald Du BOIS
|        |                                   |         \-----Joan Du BOIS
|        |                           /-----Sir Giles ASTLEY
|        |                          |         \-----Sibyl
|        |                  /-----Thomas ASTLEY, Lord Astley
|        |                 |        |         /-----Sir Thomas WOLVEY
|        |                 |         \-----Alice WOLVEY
|        |                 |                  \-----Alice
|        |         /-----Sir William ASTLEY, Lord Astley
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Walter De BEAUCHAMP
|        |        |        |                           /-----William BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Elmsley Castle
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Joan MORTIMER
|        |        |        |                  /-----William De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----William IV MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Isabel MAUDUIT
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Alice De NEWBOURGE
|        |        |        |         /-----Sir Guy De BEAUCHAMP, Earl Of Warwick
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Geoffrey FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Sir John FITZ GEOFFREY
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Aveline De CLARE
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Maud FITZJOHN
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Hugh BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Isabel BIGOD
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Maud MARSHALL
|        |        |         \-----Elizabeth De BEAUCHAMP
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Ralph VI De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Roger V De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Petronilla De LACY
|        |        |                 |         /-----Ralph VII De TOENI, Baron Of Flamstead
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Alice De BOHUN
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Maud D'EU
|        |        |                  \-----Alice De TOENI
|        |        |                           \-----Mary
|         \-----Joan ASTELEY
|                 |                                             /-----Robert De WILLOUGHBY
|                 |                                    /-----Sir William De WILLOUGHBY
|                 |                                   |         \-----(Unk) De ORREBY
|                 |                           /-----Sir Robert WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby
|                 |                          |        |         /-----John BEKE, Lord Beke
|                 |                          |         \-----Alice BEKE
|                 |                          |                  \-----Sarah De FURNIVAL
|                 |                  /-----John WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Sir John DEINCOURT, Baron Of Blankney
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Sir Edmund DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Agnes De NEVILLE
|                 |                 |         \-----Margaret DEINCOURT
|                 |                 |                 |         /-----Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster
|                 |                 |                  \-----Isabel De MOHUN
|                 |                 |                           \-----Hawise FITZ GEOFFREY
|                 |         /-----Sir John WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Thomas ROSCELYN
|                 |        |        |         /-----Peter ROSCELYN
|                 |        |         \-----Joan ROSCELYN
|                 |        |                  \-----Mabel
|                  \-----Joan WILLOUGHBY
|                          |                           /-----Robert De UFFORD, Justiciar Of Ireland
|                          |                  /-----Sir Robert De UFFORD, Lord Ufford
|                          |                 |         \-----Mary
|                          |         /-----Robert De UFFORD, K.G., Earl of Suffolk
|                          |        |        |                  /-----Robert De VALOINES
|                          |        |        |         /-----Robert De VALOINES
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Rose BLUND
|                          |        |         \-----Cecily De VALOINES
|                          |        |                  \-----Eve
|                           \-----Cecily De UFFORD
|                                   |                  /-----Geoffrey De NORWICH
|                                   |         /-----Sir Walter De NORWICH
|                                    \-----Margaret De NORWICH
|                                            |         /-----Sir John De HEDERSETE
|                                             \-----Catherine De HEDERSETE
Alice De GREY
 \-----Elizabeth



Descendants of Alice De GREY
1. Alice De GREY m. Sir William KNYVET
m. Sir William KNYVET father: John KNYVET mother: Alice LYNNE

2nd generation

2. Sir Edmund KNYVET m. Eleanor TYRREL
m. Eleanor TYRREL father: Sir William TYRRELL mother: Margaret DARCY
4. Anne KNYVET m. John THWAITES
m. John THWAITES father: Thomas THWAITES mother: Alice De La HAY

3rd generation

7. William KNYVETT m1. Katherine NEVILL m2. Alice
m. Katherine NEVILL father: Ralph NEVILLE mother: Anne WARD
m. Alice
8. Edmund KNYVET m. Joan BOURCHIER, Baroness Berners
m. Joan BOURCHIER, Baroness Berners father: Sir John BOURCHIER, Lord Berners mother: Katharine HOWARD
15. Thomas THWAITES m. Emmot MIDDLETON
m. Emmot MIDDLETON father: Nicholas MIDDLETON
18. Christopher THWAITES m. Joan
m. Joan

4th generation

30. Elizabeth KNYVET m. Francis BOHUN
m. Francis BOHUN
37. John KNYVET m. Agnes HARCOURT
m. Agnes HARCOURT father: Sir John HARCOURT mother: Margaret BARENTYNE
38. Isabel THWAITES m. Sir William FAIRFAX
m. Sir William FAIRFAX father: Sir William FAIRFAX mother: Elizabeth MANNERS
40. William THWAITES m. Alice GARNEYS
m. Alice GARNEYS father: John GARNEYS mother: Elizabeth SULYARD

5th generation

41. Nicholas BOHUN m. Audrey COKE
m. Audrey COKE
42. Abigail KNYVET m. Sir Martin SEDLEY
m. Sir Martin SEDLEY father: Martin SEDLEY mother: Elizabeth MOUNTENEY
51. Gabriel FAIRFAX m1. Elizabeth ASKE m2. Jane ROBERTS Alias DOUGHTY
m. Elizabeth ASKE father: Robert ASKE mother: Anne SUTTON
m. Jane ROBERTS Alias DOUGHTY
54. Anne FAIRFAX m1. Sir Henry EVERINGHAM m2. Edmond ELTOFTE
m. Sir Henry EVERINGHAM father: Sir John EVERINGHAM mother: Margaret SCARGILL
m. Edmond ELTOFTE
58. Bridget FAIRFAX m. Sir Cotton GARGRAVE
m. Sir Cotton GARGRAVE father: Sir Thomas GARGRAVE mother: Anne COTTON
59. Winifred THWAITES m1. Sir George PIERREPONT m2. Sir Gervase CLIFTON
m. Sir George PIERREPONT father: Sir William PIERREPONT mother: Joan EMPSON
m. Sir Gervase CLIFTON