Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Emma De GREY Death: 1264
- Reynold De GREY
Marriage:
Children:
- Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Wilton Death: 5 Apr 1308
- (Unk) De GREY
- Nichole De GREY Death: After 1279
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Banks, Thomas Christopher, Baronia anglica concentrata: or, A concentrated account of all the baronies commonly called baronies in fee; deriving their origin from writ of summons, and not from any specific limited creation. London: Simpkin, 1844. Available at https://archive.org/details/baroniaanglicaco01bankuoft. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Banks Baronies v[1-2]p[0-9]*].
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 06 Gordon-Huntley. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 10, Oakham-Richmond. London: St Catherine Press, 1945. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP X [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
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Craig, F N, Glanvilles and Roger God-Save-The-Ladies, The American Genealogist vol 71 no 4 (Oct 1996), pp200-4. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Craig SaveTheLadies p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Emme de Glanville, alleged wife of Sir John de Grey. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/21/2006. Subject: Yet Another C.P. Correction: Emme de Glanville, alleged wife of Sir John de Grey. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/tAhNBEzLYwk/m/Vf8uQOB8TDgJ. Author address: celticprince at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/21/2006-184938].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- second son [Ref: Burke Peerage p1891, Burke Peerage p889, CP VI
p133note, Foss Judges p313],
- parents:
- [Ref: Banks Baronies v1p230, Burke Peerage p1891, Burke Peerage p889,
CP VI p132f, CP VI p133note, CP VI p172(e), Foss Judges p313],
- brother:
- Richard de GRAY of Codnor [Ref: CP VI p172(e)],
- uncle:
- Walter de GREY Archbishop of York [Ref: Foss Judges p313]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 1265 [Ref: Burke Peerage p889]
- before Mar 1265/6 [Ref: Craig SaveTheLadies p204]
- shortly before 18 Mar 1265/6 [Ref: CP VI p171],
- place:
- of Shirland [Ref: Weis AR7 #187]
Sources with Information about marriage to Emma De GLANVILLE
- date:
- first marriage of John [Ref: Burke Peerage p889, CP VI p132f, CP VI
p172(e), Foss Judges p313],
- names:
- [Ref: Glanville-Richards GLANVILLE p11],
- child:
- [Ref: CP VI p132f, CP VI p171(e), CP VI p665, Glanville-Richards
GLANVILLE p47, Weis AR7 #187, Wrottesley PPR p103],
- note:
- potentially not a marriage, and John GREY's first wife Emma was Emma de
CAUZ [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/21/2006-184938]
Sources with Information about marriage to Emma De CAUZ
- date:
- first marriage of John [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p255]
- second marriage of Emma [Ref: Craig SaveTheLadies p204]
- second marriage of John de Grey [Ref: CP VI p132f, CP VI p171],
- child:
- [Ref: CP VI p132f, CP VI p171, Craig SaveTheLadies p204, Richardson
RoyalAnc v2p255]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- first marriage of John [Ref: Richardson MCA p448],
- child:
- (of Emma de CAUZ) Emma (#20162) [Ref: Richardson MCA p448, Richardson
RoyalAnc v3p379]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan Le ESQUIRE
- date:
- 17 Oct 1251 [Ref: CP VI p172(d)]
- before 17 Oct 1251 [Ref: CP X p514]
- second marriage of Joan [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v2p529, Foss Judges
p313]
- second marriage of John [Ref: Burke Peerage p889]
- third marriage of John [Ref: CP VI p132f],
- names:
- John de GREY & Joan ___ [Ref: Burke Peerage p889]
Research Notes:
Knt, of Shirland, Debryshire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p255]
of Shirland [Ref: CP VI p171]
regarding the first marriage(?) to Emma de Glanville:
Complete Peerage bases the identification of Emme de Grey's parentage on two
lawsuits, one dated 1312, the other dated 1371. In the first lawsuit dated
1312, it is stated that "the right of presentation" to the church of Alderton,
Suffolk "descended from this Geoffrey [de Glanville] to his sisters and
coheirs (named), of whom was Emma. She enfeoffed one John de Grey of her
purparty, and the said John de Grey enfeoffed one William de Huntingfield to
hold in free marriage with Emma, daughter of the said John." The descent of
the other shares is also given. "William de Huntingfield was to recover the
presentation." There is no indication in this lawsuit that Emme de Glanville
was John de Grey's wife. In fact, the statement that she "enfeoffed" him with
her holding at Alderton implies that this was a purchase by John de Grey, not
an acquisition by marriage.
The 1371 lawsuit is much later, and gives a much different spin on things.
It states that in 1371 William, Earl of Suffolk, and Sir William de
Huntingfield were summoned to answer Clement de Bradenham and Katherine his
wife regarding the advowson of Alderton, Suffolk. Complete Peerage adds the
following information:
"By this date the accounts of the Glanville coheirs differ somewhat from
those given in 1312, but the part concerning Grey is the same, it being
related that Emma, the 2nd sister, married a certain Sir John Grey, and that
they had issue Reginald and Emma; that then Emma died and John de Grey granted
to Emma his daughter, then wife of one William de Huntingfield, all his
purparty of the advowson, and by deed produced in court Reginald, son of John
de Grey and Emma, confirmed his father's grant to his sister Emma."
In the first lawsuit, it is stated only that Emme de Glanville enfeoffed
John de Grey, which implies a conveyance, not a marriage, whereas in the
second, much later, lawsuit, it is stated that Emme de Glanville married John
de Grey. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/21/2006-184938]
Pedigree of Sir John De GREY
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Henry De GREY
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Ansquetil De GRAYE
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Richard De GREY
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Anchitel De GREY
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Hawise De GRAY
Sir John De GREY
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Iseude De BARDOLF
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Hamelin BARDOLF
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Hugh BARDOLF
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(Unk Dau) BARDOLF
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Osbert De CONDET, Lord Of Wickhambreux
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Robert De CONDET, Lord Of Thorngatge
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William De CHESNEY, Lord Of Caenby
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Adelaide De CHESNEY
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Isabel De CONDET
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Anschitil Vicomte Of The Bessin
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Ranulph I De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
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Ranulph II De MESCHINES, Vicomte De Bayeux
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Richard III Duke Of Normandy
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Alice Of Normandy
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Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
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Turstain De Goz, Vicount Of Hiemois
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Richard Le Goz, Vicomte D'Avranches
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Margaret Le Goz
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Emma
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Adeliza Le MESCHIN
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(Unk)
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Thorold Of Buckingham, Sheriff Of Lincoln
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Lucia Of East Angies
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William MALET
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(Unk Dau)
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Gilbert Crespin, Lord Of Tillieres
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Esilia CRISPIN
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Gunnor De ANJOU
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