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  1. Thomas DACRE, Lord Dacre Of Gillesland Birth: 27 Oct 1387 in Naworth Castle, Cumberland Death: 5 Jan 1457/8

Bibliography
  1. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth century colonists: the descent from the later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of emigrants from England and Wales to the North American colonies before 1701, second edition. Boston: New England Historical Genealogical Society, 1999. NYPL APR (New England) 01-1513. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Faris PA2 p[0-9ivxc]*].
  4. Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
  7. Reitwiesner, William Addams, Joan wife of William Dacre. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 7/18/1999. Subject: Thomas DACRE 1387-1457, (DOUGLAS/MAXWELL). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/83gVi9Gxp6k/m/uOqi_5OFbUQJ. Author address: wrei at erols dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 7/18/1999].

Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
illeg dau [Ref: Burke Peerage p927, CP IV p6, Faris PA2 p105, Richardson PA p250]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
father:
illeg dau of William DOUGLAS (#147498) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p372, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p151]
Sources with Information about marriage to William De DACRE, Lord Dacre
names:
William DACRE & (said to have married) Joan DOUGLAS [Ref: CP IV p6],
child:
[Ref: Burke Peerage p927, CP IV p7, Faris PA2 p105, Richardson PA p250, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p372]
Research Notes:
Sir William Douglas was 1st Earl of Douglas. See Cokayne IV:430. He married Margaret by 13 November 1357, when she is mentioned in a charter. This means that their son, Sir James Douglas, who was actually the 2nd Earl of Douglas, could not have been born before 1358. His alleged grandson, Sir Thomas de Dacre, who is now considered to be "6th Lord Dacre of Gilsland", was born 27 October 1387. This would mean that the 2nd Earl of Douglas was a grandfather at age 29 (or younger).
In point of fact, even the name of [the wife of William de Dacre] is unknown. She was given the name "Joan Douglas" in a 17th-century memorandum, and her connection to the Earl of Douglas was invented later and is based on nothing more substantive than a guess. [Ref: William Reitwiesner SGM 7/18/1999]



Pedigree of Joan DOUGLAS
                                                       /-----William DOUGLAS
                                              /-----Archibald DOUGLAS
                                             |        |         /-----(Unk) Of Kerdal
                                             |         \-----(Unk) Of Kerdal
                                     /-----Sir William DOUGLAS
                                    |        |         /-----Sir John CRAWFORD
                                    |         \-----Margaret CRAWFORD
                            /-----Sir William DOUGLAS
                           |         \-----Constance
                   /-----Archibald DOUGLAS, Regent Of Scotland
                  |        |                                    /-----Godfrey III Count Of Louvain
                  |        |                           /-----Godfrey De LOUVAINE
                  |        |                          |         \-----Imaine Of Loos
                  |        |                  /-----Matthew De LOUVAINE, Baron Of Little Easton
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Robert De HASTINGS, Baron Of Little Easton
                  |        |                 |         \-----Delicia (Alice) De HASTINGS
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Maud De FLAMVILLE
                  |        |         /-----Matthew De LOUVAINE, Baron Of Little Easton
                  |        |        |         \-----Muriel (Amy)
                  |         \-----Eleanor LOVAINE
                  |                 |                           /-----Geoffrey II Count Of Perche And Mortagne
                  |                 |                  /-----Thomas Count Of Perche
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Maud Of Saxony
                  |                 |         /-----Thomas of Perche
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Hugh II Count Of Rethel
                  |                 |        |         \-----Helissende Of Rethel
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Felicite De Broyes
                  |                  \-----Helisant
                  |                           \-----Catherine LESMAYE
          /-----William DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
         |        |                                             /-----William De LINDSAY
         |        |                                    /-----William De LINDSAY
         |        |                                   |         \-----Alice De LIMESY
         |        |                           /-----Sir David De LINDSAY
         |        |                  /-----Sir David De LINDSAY
         |        |         /-----Sir Alexander LINDSAY
         |        |        |        |                           /-----Walter De LINDSAY
         |        |        |        |                  /-----William De LINDSAY
         |        |        |        |         /-----Walter De LINDSAY
         |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Gilbert FITZROGER FITZREINFRID, Lord Of Kendal
         |        |        |        |        |         \-----Alice De LANCASTER, Baroness Of Kendal
         |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Helwise De LANCASTER, Baroness Of Kendal
         |        |        |         \-----Margaret De LINDSAY
         |        |        |                  \-----Christian
         |         \-----Beatrice LINDSAY
         |                  \-----(Unk) STEWART
         |                          |                           /-----Alan High Steward Of Scotland
         |                          |                  /-----Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland
         |                          |                 |         \-----Eva
         |                          |         /-----Alexander STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland
         |                          |        |        |         /-----Gilchrist Earl Of Angus
         |                          |        |         \-----Beatrix Of Angus
         |                           \-----(Unk) STEWART
         |                                   |                  /-----Richard COMYN
         |                                   |         /-----William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
         |                                   |        |         \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
         |                                    \-----Joanna
         |                                            |         /-----Fergus Earl Of Buchan
         |                                             \-----Margaret Countess Of Buchan
 /-----James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
|        |                                                      /-----Morgrund Mac GYLOCHER, Earl Of Mar
|        |                                             /-----Duncan Earl Of Mar
|        |                                            |         \-----Agnes
|        |                                    /-----William Earl Of Mar
|        |                           /-----Sir Donald Earl Of Mar
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Richard COMYN
|        |                          |        |         /-----William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
|        |                          |         \-----Elizabeth COMYN
|        |                          |                 |         /-----Fergus Earl Of Buchan
|        |                          |                  \-----Margaret Countess Of Buchan
|        |                  /-----Gratney Earl Of Mar
|        |                 |         \-----Helen
|        |         /-----Donald Earl Of Mar
|        |        |        |                                    /-----William De BRUS, Lord Of Annandale
|        |        |        |                           /-----Robert De BRUS, Lord Of Annandale
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Christina
|        |        |        |                  /-----Sir Robert De BRUS, Baron Of Writtle
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----David Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Isabella Of Huntingdon
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Maud Of Chester
|        |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, Lord Of Annand
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford, MC Surety
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Sir Gilbert De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford And Glouceste
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Amice MEULANT, Countess Of Gloucester
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Isabel De CLARE
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Isabel MARSHALL
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
|        |        |         \-----Christian BRUCE
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Duncan Earl Of Carrick
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Nicol Of Carrick
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Avelina Of Scotland
|        |        |                 |         /-----Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Niall Ruadh O'NEILL
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----(Unk) O'NEILL
|        |        |                  \-----Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
|        |        |                           \-----Isabella
|         \-----Margaret Countess Of Mar
|                 |                                             /-----Alan High Steward Of Scotland
|                 |                                    /-----Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland
|                 |                                   |         \-----Eva
|                 |                           /-----Alexander STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland
|                 |                          |        |         /-----Gilchrist Earl Of Angus
|                 |                          |         \-----Beatrix Of Angus
|                 |                  /-----Sir John STEWART
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Richard COMYN
|                 |                 |        |         /-----William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
|                 |                 |         \-----Joanna
|                 |                 |                 |         /-----Fergus Earl Of Buchan
|                 |                 |                  \-----Margaret Countess Of Buchan
|                 |         /-----Sir Alexander STEWART
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Alexander De BONKYL
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Adam De Bonkyl
|                 |        |        |         /-----Alexander De Bonkyl
|                 |        |        |        |        |         /-----Richard COMYN
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----(Unk) COMYN
|                 |        |         \-----Margaret De Bonkyl
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Sir Parick DUNBAR, Earl Of Dunbar
|                 |        |                 |         /-----Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of Dunbar
|                 |        |                 |        |         \-----Euphemia
|                 |        |                  \-----Christiana DUNBAR
|                 |        |                          |         /-----John FITZ ROBERT, MC Surety
|                 |        |                           \-----Cecilia
|                 |        |                                    \-----Ada De BALIOL
|                  \-----Isabel STEWART
|                          |                                    /-----Walter FITZ IVO, Baron Of Greystoke
|                          |                           /-----Randolf FITZWALTER, Baron Of Greystoke
|                          |                          |         \-----Beatrice De FOLKTON
|                          |                  /-----Thomas FITZ RANULF
|                          |                 |         \-----Amabel
|                          |         /-----Sir Thomas RANDOLPH
|                          |        |        |                  /-----William Fitz ODARD, Baron Of Embleton
|                          |        |        |         /-----Robert Fitz WILLIAM
|                          |        |        |        |         \-----Oseanna De WYNDESORE
|                          |        |         \-----Juliana
|                          |        |                  \-----Alice De LASCELLES
|                           \-----(Unk) RANDOLPH
|                                   |         /-----Adam De KILCONQUHAR
|                                    \-----Isabella De KILCONQUHAR
|                                            |                  /-----Nicol Of Carrick
|                                            |         /-----Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland
|                                            |        |         \-----(Unk) O'NEILL
|                                             \-----Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
|                                                      \-----Isabella
Joan DOUGLAS



Descendants of Joan DOUGLAS
1. Joan DOUGLAS m. William De DACRE, Lord Dacre
m. William De DACRE, Lord Dacre father: Hugh De DACRE, Lord Dacre mother: Elizabeth MAXWELL

2nd generation

2. Thomas DACRE, Lord Dacre Of Gillesland m. Philippa De NEVILLE
m. Philippa De NEVILLE father: Sir Ralph De NEVILLE, K.G., Earl Of Westmoreland mother: Margaret STAFFORD

3rd generation

4. Sir Thomas DACRE m. Elizabeth BOWET
m. Elizabeth BOWET father: Sir William BOWET mother: Joan UFFORD
6. Humphrey DACRE, Lord Dacre Of Gillesland m. Mabel PARR
m. Mabel PARR father: Sir Thomas PARR mother: Alice TUNSTALL
7. Joan DACRE m. Thomas De CLIFFORD, Lord Clifford
m. Thomas De CLIFFORD, Lord Clifford father: John De CLIFFORD, K.G., Lord Clifford mother: Elizabeth PERCY

4th generation

14. Joan DACRE, Baroness Dacre m. Richard FIENNES, Lord Dacre
m. Richard FIENNES, Lord Dacre father: Sir Roger FIENNES mother: Elizabeth HOLLAND
15. Thomas DACRE, K.G., Lord Dacre Of Gillesland m. Elizabeth GREYSTOKE, Baroness Greystoke
m. Elizabeth GREYSTOKE, Baroness Greystoke father: Sir Robert GREYSTOKE mother: Elizabeth GREY
21. Anne DACRE m. Sir Thomas STRANGEWAYS
m. Sir Thomas STRANGEWAYS father: Sir James STRANGEWAYS mother: Alice Le SCROPE
24. John De CLIFFORD, Lord Clifford m. Margaret BROMFLETE
m. Margaret BROMFLETE father: Sir Henry BROUNFLETE, Lord Vessy mother: Alianore FITZHUGH
25. Sir Roger CLIFFORD m. Joan COURTENAY
m. Joan COURTENAY father: Thomas COURTENAY, Earl Of Devon mother: Margaret BEAUFORT
28. Elizabeth De CLIFFORD m1. Sir William PLUMPTON m2. John HAMERTON
m. Sir William PLUMPTON father: Sir William PLUMPTON mother: Elizabeth STAPILTON
m. John HAMERTON
29. Matilda CLIFFORD m1. Sir John HARRINGTON m2. Sir Edmund SUTTON
m. Sir John HARRINGTON
m. Sir Edmund SUTTON father: Sir John VI SUTTON, K.G., Lord Dudley mother: Elizabeth BERKELEY
31. Joan CLIFFORD m. Richard MUSGRAVE
m. Richard MUSGRAVE father: Thomas MUSGRAVE mother: Joan STAPILTON

5th generation

33. Elizabeth FIENNES m. John CLINTON, Lord Clinton
m. John CLINTON, Lord Clinton father: John CLINTON, Lord Clinton mother: Joan FERRERS
34. Sir John FIENNES m. Alice FITZHUGH
m. Alice FITZHUGH father: Henry FITZ HUGH, Lord Fitz Hugh mother: Alice De NEVILLE
35. Sir Thomas FIENNES m. Anne URSWICK
m. Anne URSWICK father: Sir Thomas URSWICK mother: Anne RICH
39. William DACRE, Lord Dacre of Gillesland m. Elizabeth TALBOT
m. Elizabeth TALBOT father: George TALBOT, K.G., Earl Of Shrewsbury mother: Anne HASTINGS
41. Mary DACRE m. Francis TALBOT, Earl Of Shrewsbury
m. Francis TALBOT, Earl Of Shrewsbury father: George TALBOT, K.G., Earl Of Shrewsbury mother: Anne HASTINGS
42. Mabel DACRE m. Henry SCROPE, Lord Scrope
m. Henry SCROPE, Lord Scrope father: Sir Henry SCROPE, Lord Scrope mother: Elizabeth PERCY
43. Anne DACRE m. Christopher CONYERS, Lord Conyers
m. Christopher CONYERS, Lord Conyers father: William CONYERS, Lord Conyers mother: Anne NEVILLE
48. Henry De CLIFFORD, Lord Clifford m1. Anne ST JOHN m2. Florence PUDSEY m3.
m. Anne ST JOHN father: Sir John St JOHN mother: Alice BRADSHAW
m. Florence PUDSEY father: Henry PUDSEY mother: Margaret CONYERS
50. Elizabeth De CLIFFORD m. Sir Robert ASKE
m. Sir Robert ASKE father: Sir John ASKE mother: Elizabeth BIGOD
54. Elizabeth PLUMPTON m. John SOTEHILL
m. John SOTEHILL father: Henry SOTEHILL mother: Anne BOYVILLE
63. Thomas SUTTON m. Grace THRELKELD
m. Grace THRELKELD father: Lancelot THRELKELD
65. Dorothy SUTTON m1. Sir John MUSGRAVE m2. Richard WROTTESLEY
m. Sir John MUSGRAVE
m. Richard WROTTESLEY father: Sir Walter WROTTESLEY mother: Jane BARON
68. Sir Edward MUSGRAVE m1. Alice RADCLIFF m2. Joan WARD
m. Alice RADCLIFF father: Thomas RADCLIFF
m. Joan WARD father: Sir Christopher WARD mother: Margaret GASCOIGNE